[灌水] 5-on-5: Breaking down Waiters trade

看板Thunder (奧克拉荷馬市 雷霆)作者 (田中鬪莉王)時間11年前 (2015/01/07 02:06), 編輯推噓12(1201)
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Breaking down Dion Waiters trade http://tinyurl.com/m2n3erb 3. Good trade or bad trade for the Thunder? Begley: Not great. The trade creates a logjam at the wing position for Oklahoma City. Scott Brooks will have to divide minutes among Andre Roberson, Anthony Morrow, Perry Jones, Waiters and Jeremy Lamb. Also, if Waiters shares the floor with Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant, will he take shots away from the star duo? Begley: Not great. 這筆交易讓雷霆側翼擠滿人。Scott Brooks必須把時間分配給 Andre Roberson, Anthony Morrow, Perry Jones, Waiters 和 Jeremy Lamb。還有, 如果他跟Russ & KD同時上場的話,他能獲得出手權嗎? Elhassan: Good on paper in that they added talent without giving up too much, but that doesn't mean much if the talent doesn't fit in. If Waiters was antsy about touches and shots in Cleveland, what about OKC's situation should put his mind at ease? Elhassan: 「理論上」是個好交易,增加了天分卻沒有付出多少代價─但是天分沒融入進 去的話一切都是空談。如果Waiters不爽他在騎士隊的出手數太少,那他在雷霆會改變心 態嗎? McMenamin: Let's make it good all around. Three for three. Waiters can flat-out play. Granted, his shot selection can go awry, but after the Cavs told him the only way he'd earn playing time this season was by playing tough defense, he became one of the league leaders in steals per game off the bench. Maybe some will say the first-round pick is a steep price to pay, but the Thunder are in win-now mode. Waiters gives them more talent and depth right away. McMenamin: 很棒。Waiters絕對能上場貢獻─雖然有時投籃選擇很爛,但是在騎士隊告 訴他「不拚強力防守就等著進冰箱」之後他就成為板凳的抄截王。有些人會說第一輪籤 太貴,但是雷霆今年是需要win-now的。Waiters給他們更多天分和深度。 Shelburne: Good trade, I think. Waiters should see more playing time in Oklahoma City, which should make him a lot happier than he was at the end of David Blatt's bench. The question is whether he can blend into Oklahoma City's culture. If he can, it'll be a boon for his career. If he can't, this is a low-risk move the Thunder can get away from easily as Waiters should still have value. Shelburne: Good trade, I think. Waiters應該能在雷霆隊獲得更多上場時間,所以會 比在David Blatt底下當板凳末端好多了。問題在於它是否能融入雷霆的球隊文化中─如 果可以的話將成為生涯中的助力;就算不行的話,因為Waiters還會有一點價值在所以容 易脫手。這是筆低風險的交易。 Young: Good. Waiters hasn't been good for the Cavs this season, but if he had been, the Thunder probably wouldn't have been able to get him for a nonguaranteed training camp invite and heavily protected first-round pick. Assuming Waiters buys into what Scott Brooks sells him, the Thunder now have one of the deepest, most potent offensive benches in the league to support Durant and Westbrook. Royce Young: Good. Waiters本季在騎士的表現不佳,但如果表現很棒的話雷霆就不可能 用訓練營撿來的咖加上重重保護的一輪籤就成功換到Waiters。如果Waiters願意吃Scott Brooks那套的話,雷霆將擁有攻擊火力深度最深的球隊保護Russ和KD。 4. What does the addition of Waiters mean for Reggie Jackson's future in OKC? Begley: It could signal the end of Jackson's days in Oklahoma City. Jackson should have plenty of suitors this summer in free agency. If the Thunder choose to let Jackson walk in free agency, they now have insurance in Waiters. Begley: 這筆交易可能代表Reggie Jackson將結束他在雷霆的日子。Jackson今年夏天將 有很多適合的去處。如果雷霆放他走的話將還有Waiters作保障。 Elhassan: I suppose you could say he's "insurance," except I'm not sure he's anywhere as good as Jackson. This reminds me of people who called Evan Turner "insurance" for if Lance Stephenson departed, neglecting the fact that that would be an awful insurance policy. The difference is, in this case the Thunder have Waiters under contract for another year. Elhassan: 你可以說Waiters是保險但是我不確定他有沒有跟Reggie Jackson一樣好。我 記得之前才有人在說什麼Evan Turner是Lance Stephenson走人後的保險,忽略了這個保 險很糟糕的事實。不一樣的點在於,Waiters還有多一年的合約。 McMenamin: It means that if some other team out there decides to break the bank and give Jackson a big payday this summer, Oklahoma City has a much more affordable backup combo guard already on the books for next season for an agreeable $5.1 million. It would soften the blow of a potential departure by Jackson. McMenamin: 這代表著如果有球隊決定在夏天的時候砸錢搶人的話,雷霆可以擁有一個比 較便宜的替補雙能衛($5.1M)─減輕Reggie Jackson走人對雷霆的傷害。 Shelburne: Not as much as you think. Yes, he's something of an insurance policy for the Thunder if they lose Jackson to restricted free agency this summer. But the sense is that they were going to lose Jackson anyway. It's just hard to justify a $12 million to $14 million yearly salary to Westbrook's backup. Think Eric Bledsoe with the Clippers two seasons ago. Shelburne: 意義上沒你想像的那麼多。是的:他是雷霆因應Reggie Jackson走人時所設 下的保險─不過就氣氛上來看Jackson橫豎是要走人的。我們不能砸$12M~$14M給Russ的 替補。想想兩年前在快艇的Eric Bledsoe。 Young: It makes Jackson more expendable. The Thunder were a bit hamstrung by Jackson's pending free agency, because it's obvious how much they need a third ball handler to support their stars. Now they have Waiters, who is locked in with the Thunder for the next two seasons, enabling them to be much more selective in matching any offer sheet Jackson gets in the summer. Royce Young: 這讓雷霆更有本錢放掉Reggie Jackson。雷霆為他的(準)自由球員狀態所 困,因為他們亟需第三持球者的支撐。雷霆得到了能用兩季的Waiters,所以可以好好選 擇接下來的交易選項。 5. Who made out the best in this trade? Begley: The Knicks had been searching for a way to rid themselves of Smith for a long time. But they needed to include Shumpert to do it. So, assuming Shumpert and Smith remain healthy and productive with the Cavs, I think Cleveland will end up getting the best of the deal. Begley: 尼克成功甩掉貴酸酸的J.R. Smith,但是他們也丟掉了Iman Shumpert。假設 Shumpert跟Smith都能維持健康,騎士隊槍成為這筆三方交易的贏家。 Elhassan: I don't think anyone should be holding a ticker tape parade after this transaction, but Cleveland addressed the biggest need by adding a wing defender; the first-round pick is whipped cream on top, and the Cavs can cross their fingers that Smith can be a dynamic scoring cherry to complete. Elhassan: 我不認為有哪一隊可以灑彩帶慶祝,但是騎士隊獲得側翼防守者,補足最大需 求;第一輪的籤是蛋糕上的鮮奶油,而如果Smith能提供得分貢獻的話將成為頂上的小櫻 桃。 McMenamin: The Cavs. We've seen three major deficiencies out of them so far this season: depth, defense and size. By adding a shut-down swingman like Shumpert and another automatic scorer in Smith, they addressed two out of those three areas. Now potentially armed with two 2015 first-round picks, plus the TPE, they can continue to go searching for a rim protector. McMenamin: 騎士隊是贏家。我們先前看到了騎士隊的三大缺點:深度、防守和高度。 藉由加入防守大鎖和得分大將解決其中的兩個問題。除此之外還獲得了2015首輪籤和 Traded Player Exception─他們可以開始獵鎮守禁區的球員了。 Shelburne: My first reaction is to say the Knicks because I'm just so shocked they were able to get rid of Smith's contract without taking back a bad contract. Honestly, I was starting to suspect they might eventually have to take a page from Stan Van Gundy's book and cut him. Ultimately though, it depends on what New York is able to do with the cap space they just created. Cap space is just cap space unless you find the right player to use it on. So in the short term I'll say the Thunder. If he fits in there and thrives, Waiters could give them the third scoring option they've been lacking since they traded James Harden. Shelburne: 當下的反應是尼克,因為他們竟然成功的擺脫了Smith的毒藥合約─還以為 他們要偷學Stan Van Gundy之前用的那招叫他滾蛋。不過最終還是得看尼克怎麼運用省 下來的薪資空間。短期內我認為雷霆是贏家,如果Waiters成功溶入並茁壯的話,將能 補上James Harden走人後就一直欠缺的第三得分點。 Young: Thunder. A contending team added a 23-year-old scorer to its bench, filling an obvious need, and is only giving up Lance Thomas and a pick to get him. It was a product of the Thunder's patient, prudent planning, being able to be opportunistic when the moment presented itself. The Thunder are better today than they were yesterday. And they were already pretty good. Royce Young: 雷霆。 競爭行列中的球隊補一位23歲的得分手到板凳,補強最欠缺的需求 而且只丟掉Lance Thomas和一支籤。這是雷霆在耐心、審慎之下促成的機會。今日的雷霆 將比昨日的雷霆好─而他們過去已經很棒了。 -- "HARD WORK BEATS TALENT WHEN TALENT FAILS TO WORK HARD." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.114.201.35 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Thunder/M.1420567562.A.2EC.html

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推推..今天也有說如果服務生體檢通過的話天就可以
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可以看到他了..他在OKC選23號球衣喔
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希望球隊能越來越好囉
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田中大!! 推推!!
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推~ 希望明天就能看到他
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問題。
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