[外電] NBA Trade Value
這是ESPN專欄作家Bill Simmons所排的交易價值排行榜，台灣記者引用的就是這一篇
BS是個死忠的塞爾提克迷，所以也常常酸湖人XD
他的文章一向以辛辣詼諧著稱，是個文筆很好的高級酸酸。
雖然這麼說，但他的文章真的很有意思(但難度很高阿..)，
也不知道有沒辦法把文章韻味完整翻出來，只翻了我們有上榜的球員(Love,Rubio,Peko)
有錯誤的地方請盡量指出來
原文連http://ppt.cc/2VgZ
NBA 交易價值準則
1. Salaries matter. Would you rather pay Kyrie Irving $5.5 million a year or
Chris Paul $17.78 million?
2. Age matters. Would you rather have Dirk Nowitzki for the next four seasons
or Blake Griffin for the next 12?
3. Pretend the league passed the following rule: For 24 hours, any player can
be traded without cap ramifications but with luxury-tax and next-day-cap
ramifications. If Team A tells Team B, "We'll trade you Player X for Player
Y," would Team B make the deal?
4. Concentrate on degrees. I don't think the Rockets or Heat would make a
Harden-Wade swap, but Miami would at least say, "Harden's available?" while
Houston would say, "We can't trade Harden for someone who's seven years
older." That counts in the big scheme of things.
5. The list runs in reverse order. So if Stephen Curry comes in at no. 15,
players 1 through 14 are all players about whom Golden State would say, "We
hate giving up Curry, but we definitely have to at least have a meeting and
discuss this proposal." And the Warriors wouldn't trade him straight-up for
any player listed between nos. 15 and 50.
1.薪水問題。你願意支付Kyrie Irving一年550萬美元或Chris Paul 一年1778萬美元？
2.年齡問題。你選擇接下來4年擁有Dirk Nowitzki還是擁有Blake Griffin 12年？
3.假裝聯盟通過以下規則：在24小時之內，任何球員的交易都無視遠期薪資空間的影響
，只考慮奢侈稅和近期薪資空間。這兩隊還會做交易嗎?
4.注意球隊角度。我不認為火箭或熱火隊會考慮Harden<->Wade的交易，但是熱火至少會
表示："我們能得到哈登的是吧？”火箭隊則肯定會說“我才不會用Harden去換這個比他
老七歲的傢夥。”這在重量級交易裡占了很大的原因。
5.列表以相反的順序運行。舉個例子，如果Stephen Curry排第15，金州勇士隊則會對排
名1到14位的球員表示“啊，我們討厭放棄Curry，但至少我們可以花點時間，好好討論這
筆交易的。”但是勇士隊絕不會用Curry單換排名16-50的球員的。
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H: "I'm Hanging Up"
H組:“我要掛電話了”
32. Nikola Pekovic
We're on a run of Nikolas! Pekovic becomes a restricted free agent this
summer, which means anyone looking for a highly skilled offensive
center/enforcer/General Zod henchman can structure an offer specifically
designed to screw over the pathetic Timberwolves. For instance, let's say
Cleveland comes in and offers him $50 million for four years, thinking
(rightfully so) that it's overpaying a little to run delightfully unstoppable
high screens with Pek and Kyrie Irving for the next four years. Let's have
Fake Hubie Brown break the rest of this down for us.
我們正朝著Nikola們前進!*(1)Pekovic在這個夏天將會變成一名受限制自由球員，這也意味
著任何正在尋找一名技巧純熟的進攻型中鋒/執法者/Zod henchman將軍*(2) 都能提供一份
專門為此精心設計的報價來坑可憐的灰狼隊。
舉個例子，當克里夫蘭也進場了，並提供給他一份四年5000萬的合約。試想(其實是理所當
然地)這份有點過高的合同能讓我們在接下來四年興高采烈地看著 Pek 和 Kyrie Irving以
無法阻擋的姿態不斷的打高位擋拆。接下來只要有個假的Hubie Brown就能解決剩下的一切
了。
"If you're Minnesota, you have to match any Pekovic offer because — cover
your ears, Jerry Reinsdorf — you cannot afford to lose an asset for nothing!
Now, you already gave a max extension to Kevin Love, only you allowed Kevin
to get out of that deal after three years, following the 2014-15 season. That
was a big mistake. And you have Ricky Rubio eligible for a max contract this
summer, or something close to it, and he is a magnificent basketball player
as well. With those three guys, your team has tremendous upside potential.
Unfortunately, you're a small-market team and you can't commit that much
money to three players long term. You also have Love's potential departure
hanging over your heads. So if you match Pekovic, you have to dangle Kevin
Love around and get as much as you possibly can. But Love is a better player
than Pekovic, which means you compounded a previously bad decision with
another bad decision. And, guys, this is why you haven't won more than 35
games since Tiger Woods last won the Masters."
如果你是灰狼隊，你得匹配Pekovic的任何報價，因為— 堵住你的你的耳朵，Jerry
Reinsdorf*(3)－你不能白白失去你的資產卻沒拿回任何東西!現在，你已經準
備好要給Kevin Love一份頂薪的合約了，只僅是為了讓他能在2015年能繼續待在隊上。
這實在是個大錯誤。
而你會在夏天給Ricky Rubio一個符合他身價的頂薪或者接近的合約，他也是個優秀神奇的
籃球選手。擁有這三個傢伙，你的球隊潛力會有了不起的巨大提升。
不幸的是，你是一個小市場球隊，你不能長期地為這三名球員付這麼多錢。
你同時也得為Love有離去的可能而耿耿於懷；所以，如果你匹配了Pekovic的合同，你所
能拿到的最多就都圍繞在Kevin Love身上了。
但Love是一個明顯比Pekovic更為優秀的球員，這代表著你為了彌補之前所做的一個壞決定，
又要做另一個壞決定。同時，諸位，這也是為什麼你們從Tiger Woods獲得Masters賽冠
軍後就再也沒有贏超過35場比賽的原因。
GROUP G: "Come on, You Know We're Building Around This Guy!"
G組:少來了!你知道我們正在圍繞著他建立一支隊伍
22. Ricky Rubio
It's like 1997 Jason Kidd had a baby with 2009 Rajon Rondo. You're right,
that was disgusting. But he's a spectacular playmaker, an electric passer, a
phenomenally unselfish teammate and an occasionally destructive defensive
player.
He sees everything about a split-second before everyone else does. He's
wonderful to watch. There's nobody like him.
Right now, he can't shoot even a lick. That's the only problem, and it's not
a small one. Check out this Rubio shot chart that our friend Kirk Goldsberry
made us.
他現在的情況就像是1997 的Jason Kidd和2009 的Rajon Rondo在一起生下來的孩子。
沒錯，我知道這很噁心。但他是個有著廣闊視野和優秀大局觀的組織者，迅捷如電的傳球
手，非凡的無私隊友和偶爾成為極具破壞性的防守球員。
他在場上看見的任何事總是比別人快一拍，打球看起來美妙又精彩，獨一無二。
現在，他還不能穩定地投籃。這是唯一的問題，而且並不小。看看我們的朋友Kirk
Goldsberry 為我們做的Rubio的得分統計圖表。
http://ppt.cc/ISeL (Rubio幾乎每一種投籃都低於聯盟平均...)
So this isn't just about struggling to become a respectable outside shooter,
which was Kidd's biggest issue once upon a time. If Rubio isn't finishing
around the rim, that's a much bigger problem if the reason isn't "Don't be a
dick, you know it takes two years to recover from a torn ACL!"
Then again, how many guards could affect games as dramatically as Rubio does
without scoring a single point? It's not a long list. I'm still drinking the
Kool-Aid here.
所以這可不僅僅是關於如何成為一個可敬的外線射手這樣的事，曾幾何時，這也是Kidd的
頭痛問題。當Rubio 依舊無法在籃下造成殺傷力，而理由已不再是「少白癡了你這個豬
頭，你得知道ACL要花兩年的時間才能復原的。」的時候，這可會是個大問題。
話又說回來，有多少後衛能像Rubio這樣無法擁有穩定的得分卻能對比賽造成如此顯著的
影響?在名單上的人並不多，我對此事可是深信不疑。
Group F: "Don't Tell Anyone, and I'll Deny It to the Death, But I'm
Listening."
F組:我會到死都會否認這件交易案的，但我正在聽著呢，別告訴任何人呦
20. Kevin Love
Tough love for Love! He already lost the 2013 Mokeski to David Lee; now he's
bungee-jumping 16 picks from last year's lofty no. 4 spot to this year's
semi-insulting no. 20 position, which normally wouldn't happen to a
24-year-old franchise star unless he was arrested with two underage girls and
three and a half pounds of molly. Just know that he didn't drop 16 spots
because of that twice-broken hand.
If we're measuring players by trade value, we're really measuring them by
the probability that they'd ever be traded. And Kevin Love WILL be traded.
It's inevitable. It might happen this summer, it might happen during next
season, but it's going to happen.
多艱難的愛啊!!他也失去了2013年的Mokeski獎*(4)，並同時被David Lee取代；現在他從去年極高
的第四名一下蹦了十六名，來到第二十名。除非他被逮捕了，同時身旁還有兩個未成年少
女和3.5磅重的molly(應該是毒品之類的)否則正常來說這件事不會發生在一個24歲的看板
球星上。你只要先知道，他會降了16個名次可不是因為那斷了兩次的手。
如果我們衡量交易價值的球員，我們真實的從進行交易的概率來衡量他們。Kevin Love將
會被交易。這是不可避免的。它可能會在今年夏天發生，也可能發生在明年的賽季，但它
就是會發生。
And here's why: Before the 2011-12 season started, Minnesota could have
locked Love up to a five-year max extension that he wanted to sign.
Incredibly, the T-Wolves decided it would be dumb to lock up a 23-year-old
franchise guy for as long as humanly possible; they wanted to save that "max"
extension slot for Ricky Rubio. Love signed a lucrative four-year extension
with a player option for Year 4 (after 2014-15) that may as well be called
"Kevin Love's Get Out of Jail Free Card." He's been bitter ever since. You
would be too.
其中的原因：在2011-12賽季開始之前，灰狼隊本來應該用Love想簽下的五年合約綁
住他。令人難以置信的是，灰狼隊判斷出的結論是，盡任何能力所及留住一個23歲的建隊
基石這件事是愚蠢的，他們想保留住“最大”的薪資空間來給Ricky Rubio。Love簽下了一
份豐厚的4年頂薪合約並在第四年有著球員選項（2014-15），這可能也被稱為
「Kevin Love逃離監獄的免費憑證」他可是一直受苦到現在。你也會同意的。
What should you do if you're Minnesota? If you're smart, you'd build around
Rubio (about to get an extension), Pekovic (about to get paid) and whatever
you can get for Kevin Love. The blueprint: In February 2011, the Jazz
shrewdly dealt Deron Williams 17 months before he could bolt Utah for a high
lottery pick (Derrick Favors) and a future lottery pick (that became no. 3
overall: Enes Kanter), maximizing any and all leverage they had.
I don't see how the T-Wolves make it through this summer without doing the
same. The likeliest suitor? Chicago. The Bulls have big contracts to make the
trade work (Luol Deng on the enticing side, Carlos Boozer on the less
enticing side); they're loaded with assets like Jimmy Butler (no. 49 on this
year's list), the rights to Mirotic (a high lottery pick if he entered this
year's draft), and the rights to Charlotte's future no. 1 pick (top-10
protected in 2014, top-eight protected in 2015, unprotected in 2016); and
they're a big-market contender with a superstar in house (so they could keep
Love for the long haul).
如果你是灰狼隊你該怎麼做?如果你夠聰明，你會圍繞著Rubio(預計會得到一份頂薪合約)
，Pekovic(預計會有一份大合約)還有你從Kevin Love身上換來的任何東西。舉個重建藍圖
的例子:2011年二月爵士精明的處理掉了Deron Williams得到當年的高順位的樂透簽
(Derrick Favors)和一個未來的樂透簽(這變成了Enes Kanter)，他們把他們所得到的東
西價值最大化。
我並沒看見任何跡象顯示灰狼隊在夏天不會像爵士隊這樣行動。
最有可能的親家? 芝加哥。公牛隊有著想要交易掉的大合約(Luol Deng ，迷人的一面
;Carlos Boozer ，不迷人的一面)，他們有著滿滿的資產，像Jimmy Butler，Mirotic(??
隨便啦…)的高順位簽，和夏洛特山貓的no.1順位選秀籤(在2014年受保護的前十順位，
2015年受保護的前八順位，2016年不受保護)，而公牛隊有著大市場和超級明星隊友(所以
他們會牢牢抓住Love的)
Let's say Chicago calls Minnesota in June and offers them Boozer's contract
with Butler, Mirotic AND the Charlotte pick. How could the T-Wolves turn that
down? And if you're the Bulls, how would you turn down the chance to (a) dump
Boozer's deal, and (b) upend a potential Miami dynasty with a nucleus of
Rose, Noah, Love, Deng, Taj Gibson and Tom Thibodeau these next few years?
You know, unless your owner was too cheap to make a real run at the Heat?
(Cut to every Chicago fan grimacing.) Anyway, I'm dropping Love to 20 only
because that Bulls trade made too much damned sense. It just did.
比方說，公牛隊在6月聯絡了灰狼隊，並為他們提供了Boozer的合同，附加上Butler，
Mirotic"和"夏洛特的高順位選秀籤。 灰狼隊怎麼能拒絕？如果你是公牛，你又怎麼會放
棄掉這樣的機會（a）丟掉Boozer大合約的大好機會，及（b）在未來幾年與Rose, Noah,
Love, Deng,Taj Gibson 和 Tom Thibodeau這些人顛覆逐漸成形的邁阿密王朝？你知道的
，否則要打敗他們，除非熱火的老闆接下來不願付出什麼代價來好好的經營熱火（鏡頭
切到每一個咬牙切齒的芝加哥球迷）
無論如何，我把Love放在第20名是因為和公牛做的這筆交易實在太他媽有道理了。
它就是如此。
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備註*1 Pekovich的後一個名次是Nikola Vucevic
*2 電影超人當中的大反派
*3 公牛隊老闆。BS應該是在諷刺他去年夏天為了避開奢侈稅而放走好幾個有潛力的
好球員。
*4 獎名是來自Paul Mokeski，曾當過山貓隊的助教，這個獎是頒給聯盟最佳的白人球
員。
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說說我的看法，雖然現在各隊都在幻想跟我們做關於Love的交易(這件事其實連乳摸都沒出
來，所以的確是各隊的專欄作者的意淫而已)，而且老桑才剛上任，基本上是不會在這個夏
天做這種驚天動地的大洗牌的。
還有Love跟Rubio這個賽季只一起打了呃...不到5場，我真的很喜歡他們的配合(他們的球
商都很高，又善於傳球，願意好好執行的話能跑出很漂亮的戰術的)，希望他們能一起完整
的打完一個賽季再說。
最後，如果能跟Peko順利續約的話，說不定會讓這件事多了一點迴旋餘地，他跟Love有同
一個經紀人。
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05/19 23:44, 72F
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05/19 23:44, , 73F
05/19 23:44, 73F
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05/19 23:49, , 74F
05/19 23:49, 74F
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05/19 23:52, , 75F
05/19 23:52, 75F
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05/19 23:58, , 76F
05/19 23:58, 76F
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05/20 00:03, , 77F
05/20 00:03, 77F
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05/20 00:05, , 78F
05/20 00:05, 78F
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05/20 00:05, , 79F
05/20 00:05, 79F
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05/20 00:32, , 80F
05/20 00:32, 80F
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05/20 00:32, , 81F
05/20 00:32, 81F
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05/20 00:32, , 82F
05/20 00:32, 82F
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