Fw: [外絮] Kobe:對我來說超越Jordan的得分是什麼意

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1KVzqk7y ] 作者: buichcmu (佚肥不了) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] Kobe:對我來說超越Jordan的得分是什麼意 時間: Thu Dec 4 12:03:55 2014 SOURCE:http://ppt.cc/E5Eo 文長甚入... All the reasons that others have to diminish this, an upcoming accomplishment that most definitely resonates with Kobe Bryant, are the very reasons he cherishes it. 所有要把這個即將到來的成就縮小化的理由 將會是Kobe珍惜他的理由 Bryant is set to pass Michael Jordan on the all-time NBA scoring list in the next week or two. Yes, it has taken him more games, more years, more teams and more tries than it took Jordan to get here. LAODA即將要超越MJ的生涯總得分了 也許是下星期或下下星期 雖然 他花了更多場比賽 更多年 更多次嘗試 Bryant isn't apologizing. "Nineteen years is a long time to be playing, and I've had a different career path than Michael," he said. "It has been a hell of a marathon. I'm really proudest of that." 19年是一段非常長的時間 而且我有一個和JORDAN非常不一樣的生涯 這就像一個地獄級馬拉松 我對這個感到非常驕傲 LAODA說 Unlike Jordan with his baseball break and premature pre-Washington Wizards retirement, Bryant has been a constant. The running at dawn, refining of footwork, punching the clock. 不像JORDAN有跑去打棒球和退休了兩次 LAODA一直都非常努力地在晨間慢跑 修正腳步 與時間賽跑 "I enjoy what I do so much," he said. "I enjoy the preparation of it. I enjoy the challenge of trying to figure out a new puzzle. I take a lot of pride in that, in having the challenge to work through year after year after year with different teams and different teammates and different coaching staffs, trying to work through all that stuff. I feel very fortunate." 我享受著我的努力 LAODA說 我享受著這一切準備的過程 我享受解開新謎題的挑戰 我對自己能夠年復一年的與不同的隊友 不同的教練一起奮鬥感到驕傲 我感到非常幸運 Bryant spoke at length with Bleacher Report about Jordan's inspiration and impact on him—including why he'll never share the best advice Jordan gave him and what still irks him about the never-ending comparisons. 在與Bleacher Report的專訪中 LAODA也提到了MJ對他的啟發和影響 也包括了為什麼他從來不會分享MJ給他最好的建議 還有惱人的 從來沒有停止過的比較(和MJ) Jordan's Key Attribute Let it be clear first, fundamentally, the admiration Bryant has for Jordan. Ask Bryant what pops into his head when he thinks of Jordan the scorer, and it's a one-word headline—followed by a stream that can barely keep up with the passion in his voice. "Aggression. It's not one game or one play, in particular; it's just his aggressiveness. It takes a lot of work, a lot of conditioning, skill and thought to be that aggressive and that assertive. He was relentless, man. He just kept coming after you. 當問到提到MJ的第一個想法的時候 LAODA嘩啦啦地說出來了 侵略性 不只是在一場比賽或一個PLAY 更精確地來說 應該是他本身的的侵略性 這花了很多功夫 很多的調整 和技巧才能達成的 他是個無情的人 他就只是一直追著你 "He just kept attacking, attacking, attacking—and attacking in different ways, from different spots on the floor, with different forms of footwork. Posting, perimeter, versatility..." 他持續的攻擊 攻擊 攻擊 而且還從不同角度 不同位置 不同的腳步 Joining Jordan in the NBA Bryant remembers that when he was a teenager just entering the NBA he was struck by how other players were "terrified, like, deathly afraid" of Jordan. LAODA記得當他還是10多歲 剛加入NBA的時候 他很驚訝其他的球員非常害怕JORDAN 就向嚇尿了一樣 他說 "It was great for me. I was looking forward to that moment, him being the pinnacle of who I was looking forward to playing against most. At the time I came into the league, all the golden greats were still there—Clyde Drexler, [Hakeem] Olajuwon, [Charles] Barkley, [Gary] Payton, Anfernee Hardaway, John Stockton. These guys were still doing their thing. It was a huge honor for me to match up with all of these guys, see them up close. 這對我來說很棒 我期待那個與他這個頂尖人物的對決 當我進入聯盟的時候 那些傳奇人物都還在 DREXLER STOCKTON OLA BARKLEY PAYTON HARDAWAY 那些人都還沒有退休 跟他們對決是我很大的榮幸 "I'm not scared of anybody," Bryant said. "It's more curiosity and such a respect that I want to learn. I want to learn. I'm so curious to learn—still to this day. Just a constant learner. I'm not afraid to ask questions about things that I don't know. I'm not afraid to admit what I don't know. I'll ask questions and try to learn as much as I can." 我不怕任何人 LAODA說 這是出於好奇心和尊敬使我去學習 我想學習 就算到了今日 我想我就只是一個不斷的學習者 我不怕承認我不知道 我會問問題 然後盡量學下來 Bryant wasn't shy. Early in his second year in the league, he already hit Jordan with direct questions on the court in Chicago. They discussed Jordan's fadeaway jumper and his post moves right then and there. LAODA曾經在他進聯盟第二年的時候 就問了JORDAN幾個直接的問題 當他們在芝加哥碰見的時候 他們討論了JORDAN的轉身跳投 和她的位置轉換 "Talked a little bit about the game. I do that often, though. My conversations with Michael get the most attention, but I do that often. I used to ask Clyde a lot of questions; I asked Stockton a lot of questions. You grow up watching these guys and seeing them do what they're doing, and you want to know how they do what they do and why they do what they do. I wasn't too proud to ask." 我們談了一些關於比賽的事 雖然我常常做 我與JORDAN的談話最引人注目 我也問了CLYDE和STOCKTON一些問題 你從小看著他們長大的 你一定會有些問題想問他們 我很驕傲我能有機會問他們 His Relationship With Jordan It's apparent by how much help Jordan has given Bryant over the years that the former respects the latter's own aggression. When asked last year about whom he'd like to play one-on-one in their primes, Jordan mentioned Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Bryant, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony before saying, "I don't think I'd lose…other than Kobe Bryant, because he steals all my moves." 很明顯的LAODA受到JORDAN很大的幫助 在侵略性上面 當JORDAN被問到與什麼人在巔峰時對決時 JORDAN說 WEST BAYLOR LEBRON WADE KOBE 和瓜瓜 我想我只會輸給LAODA 因為他偷走了我所有的動作 Jordan smiled after the dig, reflective of how Bryant is the one guy he feels comfortable teasing the way male friends do to one another. The feeling is mutual. JORDAN微笑著說 KOBE是一個讓他感到很舒服的人 就像一班男性朋友之間會互相開玩笑 這感覺是共同的 "We hit it off very well. He was really like a big brother, and whether it's because we see things in a similar way in terms of our competitive spirit or fire or whatever the case may be, there's an understanding that we have—a connection that we have. 我們處的很好 他就像我的兄弟 不論是在我們看事情的角度還是我們競爭的意志 我們之間有個共同的連接 "I don't know if he opened up with me more than he did with other players, I'm not sure. I don't know if other players had the balls even to ask. But we have a really, really good relationship." 我不知道他是否也對其他球員一樣開放自己的內心 我不了解其他球員是否帶種敢問我 但是我們有個非常好的關係 Comparing Jordan and Bryant has at times been a touchy subject with the Los Angeles Lakers legend. Years ago, reporters asking Bryant a question about Jordan might have gotten an eye roll or a shake of the head in response. 比較JORDAN 和LAODA一直是個敏感的話題 幾年前 有個記者被LAODA白了一眼 "The thing that I always bristled at was the notion that I learned everything that I know from Michael. That's just not true. Hakeem Olajuwon deserves a lot of credit; Jerry West deserves a lot of credit. Oscar Robertson deserves a lot of credit. I really was a student of the game and watched everybody. 有一說是我從JORDAN身上學了所有的東西 但是那是不對的 我也從OLA WEST 和ROBERTSON上學了不少 "I've always welcomed the comparison to Michael if it's in competitive spirit or in terms of records that I may set. I've always been cool with that. To be in that kind of company is…is…is…crazy, for lack of a better term. Rare air." 我能接受與JORDAN的比較 如果那是在競爭意志或者紀錄上面 我一直覺得那很酷 The Jordan Rules Here's the current atmospheric pressure reading: Bryant has 32,165 points entering the Lakers-Wizards game Wednesday night; Jordan stands at 32,292. (For the record, Bryant long ago passed Jordan in total assists, that current tally being 6,016-5,633.) 目前LAODA快要破JORDAN的總得分了 但是LAODA在助攻上早就超越了(6016-5633) The success Bryant has experienced in his career makes it hard to pigeonhole him as merely a Jordan wannabe. Yet the respect and assistance Jordan has accorded Bryant when he calls with questions has undeniably made him more comfortable. LAODA獲得的成功早就使他不會甘於做一個JORDAN的崇拜者 但是對於JORDAN的尊重和JORDAN給的協助LAODA還是不否認的 A Mutual Respect If Bryant, 36, plays only one more season after this one, he won't ascend any further on the all-time scoring chart. No. 2 Karl Malone is at 36,928 points, and No. 1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is at 38,387. 如果LAODA只再打一季的話 他不會破NBA的總得分紀錄 MALONE是36928分 賈霸是38387分 From a personal standpoint, however, passing those guys would never carry the power of passing Jordan. 但是 對他個人來說 超越了他們卻不像超越JORDAN那個的撼動人心 Asked if he has any relationship with Malone, the friend whom Bryant accused in 2004 of inappropriate comments toward his wife, Vanessa, or Lakers legend Abdul-Jabbar, he is brutally honest. 問到了與馬龍的關係 (在2004年曾經對他的前妻有不當言論)或者賈霸 LAODA非常殘忍的直接 "With Karl, zero. With Kareem, I haven't seen him since he stopped coaching with the Lakers organization [2005-09]." 跟馬龍 木有 和賈霸 我沒再看過他自從他離開湖人體系 True to his platform of learning from anyone and everyone, Bryant used to prod Abdul-Jabbar, when he was special assistant coach for Phil Jackson, to share stories with him about Magic Johnson or Robertson—or even Bob Dandridge, whose name few NBA watchers today will recognize but was a potent wing player and Lew Alcindor teammate in the 1970s. 因為LAODA總是向人學習 LAODA之前會去找賈霸 當他還是湖人的助理教練的時候 賈霸會向他分享一些上古神獸的故事 Although Jackson likes to tell the story that he arranged a 2000 meeting between Bryant and Jordan only to have Bryant shake Jordan's hand and proclaim that he could take MJ one-on-one, Bryant disputes it. 雖然禪師喜歡講他安排JORDAN和LAODA握手會面的故事 甚至說KOBE想跟MJ單挑 但KOBE否認 "Nah, that was a little mythology. I've never challenged Michael—or I've never initiated the challenge. With guys like him and guys who have come before me who I learned a lot from, like Jerry West, I would never initiate a challenge and say, 'I could do this to you.' I've learned so much from them. I wouldn't do that. 沒有啦 那只是一個小小的誤會 我從來沒有挑戰過MJ 也沒有想過要單挑 對於這些我從他們身上有學到東西的人 我不會發起挑戰然後說 我要還治你身囉 我從他們身上學到很多 我不會幹這事的 "But Michael likes to talk, too. I'm not the only one who likes to talk, right? The times that we have talked trash, I haven't been the one who has initiated. We just rib each other; we just kind of joke around about stuff. He knows who I am; I know who he is. Mutual respect." 但是MJ也喜歡公威 我不是唯一喜歡公威的人 當我們在說垃圾話的時候 我都不會是第一個說的 我們就只是開開玩笑 他知道我是誰 我也了解他 互相尊重嘛 Along those lines, Bryant now can laugh at himself as he describes why he sought Jordan out. "I gravitated toward him more, because naturally my personality was a combative one." 講完了這些 KOBE笑了一下當他說到為什麼他要追隨JORDAN "我被他吸引是因為我有天然的鬥魂" Inspiring Young Players As he said, Bryant's memories of Jordan are not the points, but rather the fierce manner in which Jordan scored those points. And Bryant hopes he has also touched younger players now in the same way—just for a little longer. 就像他說的 KOBE對於MJ的記憶不是那些分數 而是MJ如何暴力的拿下分數 KOBE也希望他也啟發了一些年輕球員 就像MJ一樣 "I look at the players who are playing currently and watch the things that they say and the aggressiveness that they play with. And I understand that they grew up watching me play, just as I grew up watching Michael play. That's a great feeling. It really is. "He and I are very similar in that regard. We challenge everybody." 我看著現在的球員 看著他們談侵略性 我了解到他們都是看著我打球長大的 就像我看著MJ一樣 這是一個很棒的感覺 真的 我跟MJ很像 我們挑戰所有人 心得: LAODA快救救我豪吧... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.60.125.70 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1417665838.A.1FC.html

12/04 12:06, , 1F
老大對年輕球員的啟發應該比MJ多
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打鐵啟發
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這賽季唯一能覺得開心的 就是科比不斷的創紀錄
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可是妳打鐵早就超過了
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公威....噗~ 原來這篇不是大陸翻譯哦
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看比賽的時候 只能這樣想 真的很無奈
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6>5
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處女座都這樣
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至少老大尊重自己的職業!!!
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自幹啟發比較多
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不意外 史上最在意自己數據的人 可惜每次都要靠大量
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出手大量出賽數 才能超越別人紀錄
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淚推老大 再看他沒幾年了
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真的看了很想哭 老大拜託你要加油
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得分兼具領導風範與瘋狂刷數據穩固歷史定位的差別
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推 純粹又華麗強悍的sg後繼無人
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好學不倦
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老鼻說的真好笑 都笑尿了
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推老大 助攻已經比MJ多了 bj4
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唯一能比肩mj的男人
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毒瘤誤了豪豪一生
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馬龍表示.....
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老大!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MJ身旁還有KERR這種超TOP頂級射手可以洗外線助攻
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老大只能靠一些3成多的普通射手賺助攻
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12/04 12:19, , 26F
Kobe都已經迴光返照 還大言不慚 只能等天來收
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動作做出來 打鐵聽天由命
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好不容易來了4成多的頂級射手NASH結果痛痛....
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應該翻成打嘴砲吧XD
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老大加油~
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距離MJ 倒數98分了
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kobe自己命中就3成多 還敢說別人XDDD 湖人命中比kob
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e高一堆勒
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老大會想跟喬登對決 反觀腿詹會想跟喬登組隊
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老大即將超越神
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對決還不是被打爆...場均沒一個贏的過mj 只有打鐵
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能贏 哈哈
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老大!!!
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老大~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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柯迷酸完書豪,又想酸LBJ,柯迷好棒棒
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對決放打爆? 你會查對戰記錄嗎?XDDD
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老喬那時候都老了 酸酸還拖他出來鞭
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淚推Kobe,陪伴自己學生時代的一代sg
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推,不過post move應該可以翻成低位(動作)
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"死都要投 愛自幹的意思"
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淚推Kobe
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可是他命中率4成多,然後助攻又贏mj,酸酸可以解釋
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一下嗎
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打鐵榜上的都是名人堂耶
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得分超越MJ,但評價遠不如MJ. 只為個人記錄,不管團隊
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老大!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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又一篇迷迷高潮文
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這種打球風格 跟MJ相比真是委屈了
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有點想整篇重翻...
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我覺得打鐵紀錄無人能及比較屌
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=========老大講話就是得體 霸氣 已愛上===========
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助攻贏MJ???場均輸你知道嗎XDDDD
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未來有一天我們看KOBE角度 就像現在人們看Jordan
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什麼時候老大能解開大帝下在他身上的念能力制約?
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前妻?y
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靠歐肥狐假虎威的男人
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KOBE對於MJ的記憶不是那些分數 而是MJ如何暴力的拿
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老馬被切割了
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