[爆料]交易截止日期前綜合消息

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/02/05/utah-jazz-trade-deadline-roundup/ Utah Jazz trade deadline roundup: Vanderbilt, Olynyk, Toppin … Westbrook? 猶他爵士隊交易截止日期綜合消息:Vanderbilt, Olynyk, Toppin … Westbrook? With the trade deadline coming Thursday, the Jazz are once again in the thick of many rumors making their way around the NBA. Here are a handful or two of theoretical deals they’re tied to. 隨著周四交易截止日期的到來,爵士隊再次陷入了圍繞 NBA 的眾多謠言之中。以下是與 他們相關的一兩筆理論交易。 By Eric Walden | Feb. 5, 2023, 11:47 p.m. | Updated: Feb. 6, 2023, 5:46 a.m. With newly minted All-Star Lauri Markkanen and Rising Stars tournament selection Walker Kessler apparently the only Utah Jazz players absolutely off-limits, this year’s NBA trade deadline has the potential to be wild. 隨著新進全明星球員 Lauri Markkanen 和新星錦標賽選入 Walker Kessler ,顯然是 猶他爵士唯二不可能交易的球員,今年的 NBA 截止日期前的交易有可能變得更瘋狂。 感謝nobody版友指正m(_ _)m Which is not to say anything significant will happen, but with so many players at least theoretically available to be moved, intrigue in the team’s machinations is bubbling over. 這並不是說會發生什麼重大的事情,但是有這麼多球員在合理範圍內可以被交易轉隊,各 球團檯面下的溝通正在逐漸熱絡。 So then, with less than a week left until the Feb. 9 deadline, let’s take a look at some more trade rumors involving the Jazz right now … 那麼,距離2月9日交易截止還有不到一周的時間,讓我們來看看更多關於爵士隊的交易傳 聞…… Jarred Vanderbilt to Portland? Shams Charania of The Athletic reported that it’s “increasingly likely” that Vanderbilt is traded, and that the Trail Blazers “have emerged as a strong suitor.” Jarred Vanderbilt 去波特蘭? The Athletic 的 Shams Charania 報導說, Vanderbilt 被交易的“可能性越來越大” ,而拓荒者隊“已經成為一個強有力的追求者"。 From the Jazz’s perspective, it absolutely makes sense to deal Vanderbilt. While he earned early adoration from fans for his frenetic energy and hustle, he’s increasingly found himself the odd man out in coach Will Hardy’s big man rotation. 從爵士隊的角度來看, Vanderbilt 特絕對是有意義的。儘管他一開始因其熱情的活力和 衝勁贏得了球迷的崇拜,但他越來越發現自己在主教練Will Hardy的大個子前場輪換陣容 中顯得格格不入。 To be sure, Kessler’s unexpected emergence during his rookie season has contributed to the relegation of Vanderbilt to a backup role. So too, though, have the fifth-year forward’s own deficiencies with shooting, screening, and defensive rebounding. And when he has a rough night defending, such as he did in Friday’s loss to the Hawks, his value to Utah is all the more diminished. 可以肯定的是, Kessler 在新秀賽季的超出預期的表現導致 Vanderbilt 降級為替補角 色。不過,這位資歷第五年的前鋒在投籃、掩護和防守籃板方面也存在不足。比如他在周 五輸給老鷹隊的比賽中,所做的那樣粗糙的防守表現,他對猶他的價值就更加被削弱了。 So then, why is Portland interested? The Blazers are apparently on the lookout for a low-usage, long, rangy forward type with the capacity to defend wings. On paper at least, Vanderbilt fits that bill as a potential complement to the likes of offense-centric Damian Lillard and Anfernee Simons. 那麼,波特蘭為什麼感興趣呢?拓荒者隊顯然正在尋找一個持球率低、身材高大、有能力 防守側翼的前鋒。至少在數據評估上,以隊伍進攻核心的 Damian Lillard 和Anfernee Simons的現況來說, Vanderbilt 符合這個要求可以作為潛在的補強。 There is the question of the price, of course. Utah’s front office has reportedly been holding out hope to get an offer of a first-rounder for Vanderbilt, who was part of the Rudy Gobert trade. Portland cannot offer one. So then … what? Nassir Little’s salary would work; the Blazers might well find that too steep a price and try to counter with Keon Johnson and maybe a second-rounder or two. Does that get the deal done? 當然,還有報價問題。 Vanderbilt 是 Rudy Gobert 交易的一部分,據報導猶他爵士隊 的管理層一直希望能用 Vanderbilt 換到首輪選秀權。拓荒者隊可能會不想提供因為覺得 這個代價過高。他們會試著用 Nassir Little 作為符合薪資對等的交易去談,並嘗試用 Keon Johnson 和一兩個第二輪選秀權為替代方案進行磋商。但這樣可行嗎? Kelly Olynyk to Boston? Or Miami? When the Jazz traded Bojan Bogdanovic for Kelly Olynyk just before training camp, it was perceived as perhaps the only real head-scratcher among the offseason moves made by Danny Ainge and Justin Zanik. Still, it was done with the idea of not having Bogdanovic and Markkanen not being duplicative, getting the Jazz an extra big-man presence, and not taking on any additional long-term money. Kelly Olynyk 去波士頓?還是去邁阿密? 當爵士隊在季前訓練營開始前用 Bojan Bogdanovic 換來 Kelly Olynyk ,這可能被認為 是 Danny Ainge 和 Justin Zanik 在休賽期所做唯一真正令人頭疼的交易。不過做這個 交易的用意是避免 Bogdanovic 和 Markkanen 的位置重疊,導致爵士隊陣容在這個位置 上佔用額外的空間與薪資。 The side benefit? Olynyk’s contract (a $4 million buyout next season or $12.195M fully guaranteed) makes him easy to re-route, and shooting is always a valued commodity in the league. While Olynyk’s shortcomings with rebounding and defense lessen his value somewhat, he still has suitors because of his passing and frontcourt versatility. 附帶利益? Olynyk 的合約可以在下賽季用400萬美元買斷或是支付1219.5萬的完全保障 ,讓他的合約對於球隊很好操作。雖然 Olynyk 在籃板和防守方面的缺點降低了他一部分 的價值,但外線能力在NBA裡頭始終是很保值的商品,而且他的傳球能力和前場的多功能 讓他仍然有追求的球隊。 Heavy’s NBA insider, Steve Bulpett, believes that both the Boston Celtics and Miami Heat — two former Olynyk teams short on frontcourt depth — are seeking a potential reunion, but cited an unnamed “Eastern Conference source whose club has been working the market for a center/power forward” as saying they don’t “believe the Heat or Celtics will be able to meet what Utah wants for Olynyk.” Heavy’s NBA insider Steve Bulpett 認為,兩支 Olynyk 過去待過的球隊--波士頓賽 爾蒂克和邁阿密熱火都在尋找機會交易他來,因為這兩隊現在前場深度較弱,但一位不願 透露姓名的“聯盟東區的消息來源”,表示熱火隊或賽爾蒂克一直在尋找一名中鋒/大前 鋒,但他們能提供的籌碼無法滿足猶他對於 Olynyk 的交易報酬。” Obi Toppin to the Jazz? The Jazz and Knicks were linked frequently as trade partners during the summer, when New York was rumored to be the front-runner for Donovan Mitchell, only to ultimately get cold feet on the asking price and see their dream acquisition shipped off to Cleveland instead. Obi Toppin 加盟爵士隊? 爵士和尼克隊在去年夏天休賽季經常聯繫交易磋商,當時有傳言說紐約是 Donovan Mitchell 交易的領跑者,但最終卻對報價冷處理,最後看到他們夢想中的球員被交易到 克利夫蘭。 Now, though, according to a new report from HoopsHype’s Michael Scotto, the teams are talking once again. The conversation this time? The Jazz shipping Vanderbilt and Malik Beasley to the Knicks in exchange for Obi Toppin, Evan Fournier, and draft compensation. 不過現在,根據 HoopsHype 的 Michael Scotto 的一份新報告,兩支球隊再次重啟交易 談判。這次的談話是爵士隊將 Vanderbilt 和 Malik Beasley 送到尼克隊,以換取 Obi Toppin、Evan Fournier 和選秀權補償。 Scotto notes that the Jazz are seeking approximately first-round pick value for each of Vanderbilt and Beasley, and that in this proposed deal, Toppin — a former No. 8 overall selection — would serve as a proxy first-rounder, while New York would be asked to include an actual first-rounder to convince Utah to part with Beasley and to take on Fournier’s remaining salary ($18.86 million next season and a $19 million team option for 2024-25). Scotto 指出,爵士對於 Vanderbilt 和 Beasley 的交易價值設定都是各一個首輪選秀權 ,而在這項研擬的交易中, Toppin 這位前8順位新秀將作為一個首輪選秀權的替代品, 加上紐約提供一個無保護的首輪選秀權,以說服猶他交易 Beasley ,並承擔 Fournier 剩餘的薪資(下賽季1886萬和 2024-25賽季1900萬美元的球隊選項)。 While Beasley is seen as a more valuable asset than Fournier, owing to his superior shooting and friendlier contract (team option for $16.5M in ’ 23-24), Scotto reports that, to this point, New York has been unwilling to attach a first-rounder to the Frenchman to shed his salary. 雖然 Beasley 被視為比 Fournier 更有價值的資產,但由於他出色的投籃能力和更好處 理的合約(23-24 賽季球隊選項為 1650 萬美元),Scotto 指出目前為止,尼克不想 為了擺脫Fournier再加入一個首輪(或互換權) *因為爵士對Vanderbilt 跟Beasley 都是至少要求一個選秀權,但吃下Fournier的合約 還需要一個選秀權,所以是三個。 感謝goopa版友指正m(_ _)m Russell Westbrook to the Jazz? Russell Westbrook 去爵士? Another trade idea seemingly resurrected from the summer is that of Lakers guard Russell Westbrook to the Jazz. 另一個似乎從夏天之後復活交易傳聞是湖人隊後衛 Russell Westbrook 到爵士隊。 The teams are known to have previously discussed such a deal, with Utah apparently having offered some combination of Bogdanovic, Mike Conley, and Jordan Clarkson in exchange for the former MVP, plus the Lakers’ unprotected first-round picks in 2027 and ’29. 眾所周知,兩支球隊之前曾討論過這樣的交易,猶他顯然已經提供了 Bogdanovic, Mike Conley, 和 Jordan Clarkson 的組合,以換取這位前 MVP,以及湖人 2027 年和 29 年 未受保護的首輪選秀權。 L.A. GM Rob Pelinka was unwilling to part with those picks at the time, but now, according to Bleacher Report’s Chris Haynes, the teams are talking once again. The Lakers are apparently keen to augment around LeBron James and Anthony Davis, and have been buoyed by the recent addition of Rui Hachimura; however, they recognize they remain shooting-deficient, and so could be helped by some combination of Conley, Clarkson, and Beasley. 洛杉磯總經理 Rob Pelinka 當時不願意放棄這些選秀權,但現在,據 Bleacher Report 的 Chris Haynes 稱,球隊正在再次討論。湖人隊顯然熱衷於圍繞 LeBron James 和 Anthony Davis 進行補強並且在最近加入了八村壘;然而,他們認識到他們仍然缺乏外線 能力,因此 Conley, Clarkson, 和 Beasley的組合可能會有所幫助。 Meanwhile, Yahoo’s Jake Fischer reported that “Any deal that sends Westbrook to the Jazz would almost certainly include veteran point guard Mike Conley, wing shooter Malik Beasley and forward Jarred Vanderbilt.” 與此同時,Yahoo的 Jake Fischer 報導稱,“任何將 Westbrook 送到爵士隊的交易幾乎 肯定會包括老將控球後衛 Mike Conley ,側翼鋒線射手 Malik Beasley 和前鋒 Jarred Vanderbilt 。” The Jazz might be hoping to get off the $24M it would cost to keep Conley on the roster next year, which could be an enticement to take on the remainder of the $47 million being paid to take on Westbrook. Still, at least one of those future Lakers first-rounders would need to be part of the deal. 爵士隊可能希望擺脫明年 Conley 留在名單上所花費的2400萬美元,這可能是一種誘惑, 可以承擔支付給威斯布魯克的 4700 萬美元中的剩餘部分。不過那些未來的湖人首輪選秀 權至少需要成為交易的一部分。 還有其他傳聞是去年8月 Westbrook 就覺得自己會被交易到爵士隊 這現在看覺得很八卦就是了~~ -------------------------------------------------------------------- 下面是關於 Kyrie Irving 預想的三方交易,但他已經到獨行俠就不另行翻譯 -------------------------------------------------------------------- There’s one other Westbrook-to-Utah idea making the rounds, though. Friday’s news that Kyrie Irving had demanded a trade from the Brooklyn Nets in the wake of the sides’ inability to agree upon a contract extension has some Jazz fans wondering if the controversial but supremely talented guard could be a target for their team. Given that Ainge has seen firsthand what havoc Irving can have upon a locker room, he may be disinclined to go after the All-Star starter. Perhaps far more likely, though, is the Jazz getting involved in an Irving deal not as the destination franchise, but as a third-team facilitator. There is speculation that Irving would be amenable to a reunion with James, this time in Los Angeles. The Lakers would need to shed Westbrook’s salary in such a deal, but the Nets are not thought to be eager to reunite him with his former OKC teammate, Kevin Durant, thus necessitating a third team’s involvement. Enter the Jazz. There’s a school of thought out there that a three-team deal could be constructed entailing the Lakers getting Irving and, say, Seth Curry from the Nets, Brooklyn getting Conley, Clarkson, and Beasley, plus a draft pick from the Jazz, and Utah getting Westbrook and picks from the Lakers, plus a future pick from the Nets. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.224.177.10 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/UTAH-JAZZ/M.1675755363.A.977.html

02/07 15:56, 1年前 , 1F
Fournier那段有點奇怪,老錫又沒打算多用Fournier
02/07 15:56, 1F

02/07 15:56, 1年前 , 2F
直接將Fournier送走應該更合理阿,留在尼克只是佔位置
02/07 15:56, 2F

02/07 17:00, 1年前 , 3F
這感覺像尼克很矛盾的問題 因為Fournier去年底就被擺上貨架
02/07 17:00, 3F

02/07 17:01, 1年前 , 4F
他是被更年輕的球員取代但薪資沒高到很誇張
02/07 17:01, 4F

02/07 17:02, 1年前 , 5F
但尼克就在認賠殺出跟當交易籌碼之間一直搖擺
02/07 17:02, 5F

02/07 18:01, 1年前 , 6F
Toppin看數據 感覺三分不錯 剩下不熟
02/07 18:01, 6F

02/07 18:02, 1年前 , 7F
不過法國人明顯是爛約吧 要多收清理費?
02/07 18:02, 7F

02/07 18:06, 1年前 , 8F
今天聽說爵士不想搞到壓線才交易 有好方案就會點頭了
02/07 18:06, 8F

02/07 18:06, 1年前 , 9F
你各隊要買要快啊
02/07 18:06, 9F

02/07 18:13, 1年前 , 10F
法國人的薪資合約最後一年是球隊選項 至於他是老席不愛用
02/07 18:13, 10F

02/07 18:14, 1年前 , 11F
如果尼克拖到下一季他會變更好脫手的湊薪資籌碼
02/07 18:14, 11F

02/07 18:34, 1年前 , 12F
法國人昨天突然解封上場 微妙
02/07 18:34, 12F

02/07 19:28, 1年前 , 13F
glen大你那段應該是尼克不想為了擺脫Fournier再加入一個首
02/07 19:28, 13F

02/07 19:28, 1年前 , 14F
輪(或互換權)
02/07 19:28, 14F

02/07 19:30, 1年前 , 15F
因為爵士對Vanderbilt 跟Beasley 都是至少要求一個選秀權
02/07 19:30, 15F

02/07 19:31, 1年前 , 16F
但吃下Fournier 的合約還需要一個選秀權,所以是三個。
02/07 19:31, 16F

02/07 19:31, 1年前 , 17F
就算Topping能當一個也還差一個~
02/07 19:31, 17F

02/07 19:32, 1年前 , 18F
如果尼克再加入Quickley或Grims可能就成交了
02/07 19:32, 18F
感謝協助修正 已修改內文XD

02/07 19:38, 1年前 , 19F
馬卡南洗成明星 首要目標已經達成
02/07 19:38, 19F

02/07 19:38, 1年前 , 20F
全換籤 加減坦個斑馬也是不錯的選擇
02/07 19:38, 20F
※ 編輯: glen (36.224.177.10 臺灣), 02/07/2023 21:01:15

02/07 21:05, 1年前 , 21F
V8感覺會去小牛 ?
02/07 21:05, 21F

02/07 21:42, 1年前 , 22F
現在感覺就是爵士在找誰開的無保護首輪籤比較多就跟誰交
02/07 21:42, 22F

02/07 21:42, 1年前 , 23F
02/07 21:42, 23F

02/07 21:45, 1年前 , 24F
光狗貝跟米丘兩筆交易光拿到一個馬卡一個Kessler一個Agbaj
02/07 21:45, 24F

02/07 21:45, 1年前 , 25F
i三個人 還不算得到超多首輪跟交換權爵士就已經沒啥賠
02/07 21:45, 25F

02/07 21:46, 1年前 , 26F
下場對灰狼如果還沒交易人心也會很浮動吧!
02/07 21:46, 26F

02/07 21:48, 1年前 , 27F
說不定看灰狼下不去選擇自己下去,跟拓荒、湖人說好交
02/07 21:48, 27F

02/07 21:48, 1年前 , 28F
易首輪送勝場!
02/07 21:48, 28F

02/08 11:31, 1年前 , 29F
馬卡南跟Kessler那段應該是這兩個人碰不得(其他都可以談
02/08 11:31, 29F
感謝協助修正 已修改內文

02/08 11:51, 1年前 , 30F
結果談到最後什麼事都沒發生 因為沒人達到安吉的要求
02/08 11:51, 30F
※ 編輯: glen (36.224.155.9 臺灣), 02/08/2023 12:52:59

02/08 17:41, 1年前 , 31F
離交易大限剩不到一天半了 靜悄悄
02/08 17:41, 31F

02/08 17:43, 1年前 , 32F
湖人今天輸,沒進附加賽的動力了,應該不會跟湖人交易
02/08 17:43, 32F

02/08 17:43, 1年前 , 33F
了!
02/08 17:43, 33F

02/08 19:02, 1年前 , 34F
明天打灰狼本季最該拼勝的8場中第7場(76人2籃網2灰狼4
02/08 19:02, 34F

02/08 19:02, 1年前 , 35F
),球員應該還是會受交易流言影響表現吧!
02/08 19:02, 35F

02/08 20:57, 1年前 , 36F
交易大限不是明天凌晨嗎?
02/08 20:57, 36F

02/08 22:08, 1年前 , 37F
今天凌晨4點到期
02/08 22:08, 37F

02/08 22:14, 1年前 , 38F
美國時間2月9日吧!不曉得有沒有記錯!
02/08 22:14, 38F

02/09 09:14, 1年前 , 39F
如果最後拿湖人兩個首輪應該不錯
02/09 09:14, 39F

02/09 09:15, 1年前 , 40F
好像只有一張?
02/09 09:15, 40F

02/09 09:15, 1年前 , 41F
結果只有一張...
02/09 09:15, 41F

02/09 09:17, 1年前 , 42F
安吉幹嘛,只拿到一張,還買斷龜?
02/09 09:17, 42F

02/09 09:19, 1年前 , 43F
這幫湖人很大耶 Vanderbilt+逼死里他們超缺這種
02/09 09:19, 43F

02/09 09:19, 1年前 , 44F
虧爛 幹 那還不如把三個拆開賣
02/09 09:19, 44F

02/09 09:20, 1年前 , 45F
這是我認識的安吉嗎?
02/09 09:20, 45F

02/09 09:21, 1年前 , 46F
這什麼湖人超賺,其他兩隊虧爛的交易….
02/09 09:21, 46F

02/09 09:22, 1年前 , 47F
而且還只是有保護首輪
02/09 09:22, 47F

02/09 09:24, 1年前 , 48F
爵士還可以說是擺脫康利明年合約 灰狼真的不知道是在
02/09 09:24, 48F

02/09 09:24, 1年前 , 49F
衝三小 不能Vanderbilt和逼死里拆開賣嗎
02/09 09:24, 49F

02/09 09:26, 1年前 , 50F
沒後續交易大概要看Gay上20+
02/09 09:26, 50F

02/09 09:27, 1年前 , 51F
我覺得湖人27首輪很棒 但有保護就不行
02/09 09:27, 51F

02/09 09:31, 1年前 , 52F
保前四 那可能還行
02/09 09:31, 52F

02/09 09:40, 1年前 , 53F
真的是血虧啊 JV換即戰力跟二輪不是很好
02/09 09:40, 53F

02/09 09:43, 1年前 , 54F
換這什麼鬼?拿去換Collins還比較好吧
02/09 09:43, 54F

02/09 09:44, 1年前 , 55F
真的 不如換Collins
02/09 09:44, 55F

02/09 09:49, 1年前 , 56F
又收到MVP控球了耶
02/09 09:49, 56F

02/09 09:50, 1年前 , 57F
然後又要買斷
02/09 09:50, 57F

02/09 09:50, 1年前 , 58F
崩潰,連西河也要買斷,這樣PG還有誰
02/09 09:50, 58F

02/09 09:50, 1年前 , 59F
再送3次輪出去欸 安吉老年癡呆?
02/09 09:50, 59F

02/09 09:51, 1年前 , 60F
Collins老鷹就不出首輪呀,安吉是首輪控
02/09 09:51, 60F

02/09 09:53, 1年前 , 61F
坦路衝衝衝
02/09 09:53, 61F

02/09 09:56, 1年前 , 62F
沒首輪也比這包賺 這包有夠爛
02/09 09:56, 62F

02/09 09:56, 1年前 , 63F
丟了一堆東西只換到前四保護首輪
02/09 09:56, 63F

02/09 10:00, 1年前 , 64F
下一包是JC包嗎
02/09 10:00, 64F

02/09 10:14, 1年前 , 65F
史上最爛 這交易看得一肚子氣
02/09 10:14, 65F

02/09 10:14, 1年前 , 66F
補噓
02/09 10:14, 66F

02/09 10:18, 1年前 , 67F
覺得Conley留著也能提供經驗吧,把這麼多人換出去只換
02/09 10:18, 67F

02/09 10:18, 1年前 , 68F
到首輪,為何要對湖人這麼好?
02/09 10:18, 68F

02/09 10:19, 1年前 , 69F
還是賭LBJ退休後,湖人戰績會下滑,但這也太遠了
02/09 10:19, 69F

02/09 11:10, 1年前 , 70F
幫湖人補強還只要一個首輪 幹嘛對湖人這麼好?
02/09 11:10, 70F
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