[轉錄]Re: [影音] 45歲的 Michael Jordan

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板] 作者: Solid4 (豆腐) 看板: NBA 標題: Re: [影音] 45歲的 Michael Jordan 時間: Sun Aug 3 08:10:19 2008 ※ 引述《supdude (TheMan)》之銘言： : 看到lef大還那麼認真找了國外鄉民及專欄作家助陣，不經讓我想到ESPN : Page2一位偉大的科迷作家，Jemele Hill. : http://0rz.tw/9a2yg : 這位Hill小姐是我看ESPN十多年來最不知所云的作家，不過相信lef大 : 一定很愛。專家耶~~~ : 以下節錄 : "Kobe Bryant is better than Michael Jordan. : Kobe Bryan比MJ強 : Kobe can do everything Michael did, and even a few things Michael couldn't do. : Kobe會全部MJ會的，再加上MJ做不到的 : Kobe is just as good a defender. : Kobe和MJ的防守一樣好 : . : . : . : " : 我翻不下去了，隔了一年再看，仍然讓人吐血...反正Kobe是她的神就對了 : 喔對了，這位Hill小姐被ESPN suspended，因為她拿支持納粹比喻支持 : Celtics。專家太嘴砲也是會被噓爆的~~ 都拿出來了，不翻完全幹麼呢？理由都不拿出來看，中間還漏段，講話說一半，不是誤導是什麼。以下為全文：(註，這篇的發表日期是在Kobe連50分以上四場那時候貼出來的。) Kobe Bryant is better than Michael Jordan. Kobe比MJ強。 Not more successful. 並不是說Kobe比MJ更成功。 Hasn't had a bigger economic impact. 經濟效益也沒MJ好。 Hasn't won more MVPs. MVP次數也沒MJ多。 Hasn't won more titles. 冠軍盃也沒MJ那麼很抱了那麼多次。 But he's a better player. 但Kobe是個比較好的球員。 Kobe can do everything Michael did, and even a few things Michael couldn't do. Kobe可以辦到每一件MJ做過的事，還外加幾個MJ做不到的。 Kobe is just as good a defender. His killer instinct is just as pronounced. He can shoot, finish and explode. And just like Jordan, the more he's pissed off, the more unstoppable he is. 防守上，Kobe跟MJ比起來一點也不遜色。他的殺手直覺就跟MJ一樣好。他不管切、投、爆發，樣樣都在行。就像Jordan一樣，他們越生氣，無雙開越大。 At the very least, Kobe's scoring spree over the last week should put to rest any lingering doubts that he's the best player in the NBA. Yes, better than Steve Nash, who is the best point guard, but not the lethal force that Kobe is. Yes, better than Dwyane Wade, who is certainly closer to the Kobe-Jordan level than LeBron James, but D-Wade's game is not as polished as Kobe's. 上個禮拜Kobe的大屠殺應該清除掉了檯面上所有對"Kobe是NBA當今最好的球員"這句話的懷疑。對，他比Steve Nash還強，雖然Nash是最強的控衛，但是Nash不比Kobe進攻上的致命威脅。對，也比Dwyane Wade好，儘管低位目前比LBJ (注意，是07年3月的事)還接近 Kobe跟Jordan的等級，但低位的技巧細膩度不比Kobe的好。 Kobe's streak of four straight 50-points-plus games is something none of those players can do, and it's something that hasn't been done since Wilt Chamberlain, who had an NBA-record seven straight 50-point games. Truthfully, Kobe should have tacked another 50 on Golden State on Sunday night. Kobe連四場50分以上是以上這些球員都沒做過的，這紀錄也是自從Wilt Chamberlain，連7場50分以上的紀錄保持人以來，連續場數最高的。說真的，Kobe還有機會在星期天對勇士隊的比賽內再拿個50分的。 Of course, the idea that Kobe is better than Jordan -- or even the best player in this league -- is as repugnant to some folks as a rectal exam. Even though Kobe has proven himself under pressure countless times, he gets the A-Rod treatment. 當然啦，就是有些人對Kobe > Jordan，甚至Kobe是當今聯盟最好的球員的說法，反感程度不下於月工門檢查。就算Kobe再怎麼證明自己，也只會像A-Rod一樣被酸到死。 Kobe can't please anyone. And it doesn't help that most people suffer from revisionist history when it comes to Jordan, forgetting that he was just as poor a teammate and a ball hog and that he ran off coach Doug Collins like Kobe ran off Phil Jackson the first time. Kobe似乎沒辦法讓任何人高興。就是有些人可以選擇性的忘記 Jordan曾經也是個糟糕的自幹王、糟糕的隊友、並跟幾年前的Kobe一樣用大牌身分把教練Doug Collins趕走。 In fact, you could argue that Jordan was even worse. Far as we know, Kobe hasn't jacked up any of his teammates the way Jordan punched out Steve Kerr and Will Perdue at practice. 事實上，說MJ在這方面做的比Kobe還差不是沒有道理的。以我們所知，Kobe從來沒有像MJ 那樣幹樵隊友。(Steve Kerr & Will Perdue) Kobe will never be forgiven for Shaq's departure, but you're delusional if you think Jordan wouldn't have had any ego issues playing alongside a player with Shaq's star power. 或許球迷們永遠都不會原諒Kobe把Shaq氣/搞走這件事，但是如果你認為Jordan 跟Shaq 這兩個自尊、明星光環那麼大的球星同隊不會有問題的話，你最好去治一下你的妄想症。 The best-player argument shouldn't be determined by personal dislike. But if you want to take it there, fine. Jordan was hardly the ideal husband, but only the tabloids were brave enough to venture into his personal life. And what about those gambling issues? If Jordan's life had been covered like Kobe's, we would have an entirely different opinion of His Airness. 「誰比較強？」這個話題不應該因為人氣、你比較喜歡誰而被影響。如果你真的要說 Kobe怎樣怎樣的話，沒關係，我可以告訴你，Jordan跟"好丈夫"這詞可以說是幾乎抅不上邊，但是只有小報、狗仔隊敢去爆料這些。如果Jordan私底下的生活就像Kobe一樣通通被挖出來的話，大家對「籃球之神」的看法會很不一樣。 Besides a different level of media scrutiny, there was definitely a difference in the level of competition during Jordan's heyday compared to now. 把唯恐天下不亂的媒體擺在一旁，Jordan當年面對的競爭跟現在是不同的。 Yesterday's NBA player certainly was more fundamentally sound, but there's no question that today's player is bigger, stronger and faster. When Jordan played, he was a singular force that could not be equaled. Jordan was guarded by the likes of John Starks and Joe Dumars, who were fine players but weren't nearly as skilled or physically imposing as LeBron, D-Wade, Tracy McGrady or even Vince Carter. 過去的NBA球員的確基本動作、意識比較好，但毫無疑問的，現今的球員更大隻、更壯、更快。Jordan還在打球的時候，他面對的後衛可都是John Starks、Joe Dumars這種球員，雖然是好球員，但不管技巧、身體都沒有LeBron、Wade、T-Mac，或甚至飛人卡特強。(另外，國外類似討論串也有講到當年SG都是6'2"~6'5"，現在6'6"~6'9"都有) The NBA is tougher now. 現在的NBA更粗暴、更難生存。 Kobe, like Michael, is surrounded with mediocre to below-average talent, and Phoenix, Dallas and San Antonio are all better than the Utah, Portland and the Charles Barkley-led Phoenix team that Michael met in the NBA Finals. Kobe就像麥可一樣隊友是一群不怎麼樣的球員，而太陽小牛馬刺都比當年的爵士、拓荒者、跟有巴克利的太陽強一些。這幾隻球隊可是當年MJ在冠軍賽碰到的。 Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson and Patrick Ewing will be among the best centers ever, but none of them affected the league the way Shaq and Tim Duncan have. There are two two-time MVPs in Kobe's own conference (Duncan, Nash), which is a problem Jordan never faced during his championship runs. Seven-footers weren't launching 3s back then. Magic Johnson and the Lakers were on a downward spiral, and the Pistons were on their last legs. It was Michael and everyone else. That's not the case for Kobe. 歐拉朱旺、"海軍上將"Robinson，跟尤英都是史上數一數二強的中鋒，但他們沒有像叮噹肯、俠客那樣改變了整個聯盟。在Kobe所在的西區內就有兩位拿過兩次MVP的球員， Nash跟叮噹肯，這是Jordan在他連霸時期沒碰過的。過去，七呎長人也沒在外面噴三分。另一位MJ Magic Johnson跟湖人當時在走下坡，活塞則是搖搖欲墜。過去的情況是 "MJ"跟"其他人"。這可跟現在Kobe的情況不同。 The shame of it is that Kobe might finish his career without a MVP, even though his ability can be compared only to that of Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain. All this time we've been looking for a player who is better than Jordan, but most of us can't get beyond whether we like or dislike Kobe as a person to recognize his contributions to the game. 很可惜的，Kobe可能一輩子拿不到季賽MVP，儘管能夠跟他相提並論的只有Jordan跟張博倫一輩。大家都在找，誰比Jordan還強，但多數人沒辦法很客觀的，把自己的喜好放在一旁，來評斷Kobe有多強。 Ultimately the MVP award will go to either Nash or Dirk Nowitzki, who are deserving this season, but neither are as good as Kobe. Dallas and Phoenix are strong enough to make the playoffs without their stars. The Lakers, however, are a lottery team without Kobe. 本季的"最有價值球員"最後大概會頒給Nash 或是德國司機，這兩位本季的表現都是實至名歸，但這兩人都沒有Kobe強。小牛跟太陽，就算沒有這兩位明星，也是可以進季後賽，但沒有Kobe湖人註定要去拿樂透簽的。 Now that's a valuable player. 這，才是有價值。當然，有些理由稍微牽強，但以當時的情況、作者指出的一些站的住腳的理由來講，這一篇說嘴砲太嚴重。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 74.140.139.192

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