[外電] Yep, Wang is definitely NOT an ace

看板CMWang (王建民 - 大樹哥)作者 (統一獅王重返榮耀^^)時間18年前 (2008/04/08 14:05), 編輯推噓19(19010)
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其實這位作者還有一篇 不過感覺他很喜歡我們的 小王就是了^^ 大家可以幫我縮嗎 = =" http://www.bugsandcranks.com/new-york-yankees/yep-wang-is-definitely-not-an-ace/ Yeah, that Chien-Ming Wang is DEFINITELY not an ace. Nope. Definitely not a No. 1 guy who can match up with the game’s best starters and come out on top more often than not. Nope. No way. Hell, even catcher Jorge Posada said during the off-season that the Yankees should have made the Johan Santana trade because “we need a No. 1.” Nope. Despite a major-league leading 38 wins in 2006 and 2007 and only 13 losses, he can’t get any respect. Not even from his own teammates. I beg to differ. He isn’t a flashy strikeout pitcher or a talkative, attention-grabbing personality. He is just a groundball machine who gets deep in games and consistently and wins more often than just about every other starter in the game. An ace? I think so. Go ahead and name 10 starters in the major leagues who are CLEARLY better than Wang right now. And if you really want to go to the trouble, back up your argument with the numbers to prove it. I doubt you’ll be able to do that, conclusively. So, how do you make the argument that a guy who is undoubtedly one of the game’s 10 best starters is NOT an ace? I don’t think you can. Wang (2-0) won again Sunday, throwing 6.1 shutout innings in a 2-0 victory over Tampa Bay. By the way, his opponent Sunday was James Shields — the best starter the Rays have. Oh, and his other victory this season? A 3-2 win over Toronto ace Roy Halladay, one of the game’s best pitchers, in which he pitched 7 excellent innings. He can’t win big playoff games, the Wang bashers say. And yes, Wang was awful in the playoffs last season posting a 19.06 ERA in two brutal starts. Yes, he is 0-3 with a 7.58 ERA in three playoff starts. Wang was awful in last season’s playoffs. But, look a little closer at his 2005 and 2006 performances. As a rookie in 2005, he pitched 6.2 innngs in a loss to Anaheim, allowing just one run. In 2006, against Detroit, he again pitched 6.2 innings, this time allowing three runs. So, one of those outings was dominant, the other pretty good. He was bad last season, but don’t tell me he can’t pitch in the playoffs. He has shown that he can. So, go right ahead and keep thinking Wang isn’t an ace. Some Yankee fans — and even players like Posada — might agree. I don’t care, and I don’t think Wang does either. He is just going to keep pounding hitters with that sinker and, most importantly, winning games. Isn’t that what an ace does? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 208.170.67.192

04/08 14:06, , 1F
0rz.tw/283Rm 幫縮
04/08 14:06, 1F

04/08 14:09, , 2F
一行不用縮吧
04/08 14:09, 2F

04/08 14:18, , 3F
超挺小王的 這傢伙看來對Posada不大滿意 XDDD
04/08 14:18, 3F

04/08 14:25, , 4F
王不是ACE壓 因為他是KING (火暴 XD
04/08 14:25, 4F

04/08 14:28, , 5F
對老外來說ace>king喔!(想想撲克牌~)所以ace較好
04/08 14:28, 5F

04/08 14:34, , 6F
對ace=no.1 starter而言, 小王是ace
04/08 14:34, 6F

04/08 14:35, , 7F
認為小王不是ace的, 比較對象多半是賽揚獎投手
04/08 14:35, 7F

04/08 14:36, , 8F
所以爭論這個其實是雞同鴨講 XD
04/08 14:36, 8F

04/08 14:41, , 9F
小王其實是大老二 XD
04/08 14:41, 9F

04/08 14:42, , 10F
最高標準
04/08 14:42, 10F

04/08 14:44, , 11F
所以我還挺希望小王拿賽揚, 省的一天到晚吵ace XD
04/08 14:44, 11F

04/08 15:06, , 12F
那是撲克牌阿XD 我是說戰略遊戲XD
04/08 15:06, 12F

04/08 15:38, , 13F
這篇看的很爽
04/08 15:38, 13F

04/08 16:10, , 14F
0.0
04/08 16:10, 14F

04/08 16:14, , 15F
這麼久了還在被懷疑是不是王牌?
04/08 16:14, 15F

04/08 16:15, , 16F
真不知道王牌是比球技還是比嘴砲?
04/08 16:15, 16F

04/08 16:18, , 17F
國外也是很多鄉民的.....
04/08 16:18, 17F

04/08 16:42, , 18F
小王是大老二 XD
04/08 16:42, 18F

04/08 17:20, , 19F
小王剛上mlb時,沒有人會拿他跟賽揚名投來比,現在已經
04/08 17:20, 19F

04/08 17:20, , 20F
做到了,是不是Ace又如何?能幫球隊贏球才重要吧....
04/08 17:20, 20F

04/08 17:51, , 21F
反正小王今年開幕戰沒遲到,拿賽揚讓一些九官鳥住嘴
04/08 17:51, 21F

04/08 17:57, , 22F
講的還滿中肯的
04/08 17:57, 22F

04/08 18:58, , 23F
看這傢伙的文章還真high~XD
04/08 18:58, 23F

04/08 19:43, , 24F
我覺得就算小王拿到CY 照樣有人會罵他不是Ace
04/08 19:43, 24F

04/08 22:35, , 25F
不會很high呀,只能算中肯而已 XD
04/08 22:35, 25F

04/09 00:40, , 26F
去年是小王倒楣 少出席MLB一個月 還能拿到19勝耶
04/09 00:40, 26F

04/09 00:41, , 27F
有意見的人請把去年MLB所有投手在4/20日之前的戰績捨去
04/09 00:41, 27F

04/09 00:42, , 28F
然後重新比對一次 看看還有誰比小王的勝投還多
04/09 00:42, 28F

04/09 10:03, , 29F
小王拿到賽揚獎肯定有人仍不認同 去年的獎也不是最強的拿
04/09 10:03, 29F
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文章代碼(AID): #17-miCpk (CMWang)