Re: [外電] The Rich Get Richard
看板ChicagoBulls (芝加哥 公牛)作者AhUtopian (It's my Life)時間14年前 (2011/12/16 16:21)推噓15(15推 0噓 9→)留言24則, 15人參與討論串2/3 (看更多)
※ 引述《eertllams (Tree666)》之銘言:
: The rich get Richard
: New Bull Hamilton's track record as a scorer makes him a worthwhile pickup
: http://tinyurl.com/6rqu8uh
: By Michael Wilbon
: ESPNChicago.com
: He's not a splashy addition, Richard Hamilton, but a wise one, perhaps exactly
: what the Chicago Bulls need, all things considered. Don't fool yourself, don't
: try for one second to make the case that the Bulls didn't need a new wingman
: for Derrick Rose because they absolutely did. To stay ahead of the Celtics,
: Knicks and Pacers and to have any real chance of overtaking the Heat, the Bulls
: needed at least one more player who could do the most basic thing in
: basketball: score.
RIP的加入並非令人驚許的,
但是卻是個智慧的決定,
而且考量到各個層面,
可能正是公牛所最需要的選項。
不要欺騙自己、不要花任何一秒鐘解釋公牛不需要一個搖擺人來協助玫瑰,
因為公牛就是需要。
為了持續領先綠軍、尼克還有溜馬以及真正有機會超越熱火,
公牛至少需要一個球員能做籃球比賽中最基本的事情:得分。
: Everybody in and around pro basketball has been saying the same thing about the
: Bulls since Game 5 of the Eastern Conference finals. "If they only had one more
: guy to help Rose." Not to rebound, not to defend, not to pass. The Bulls needed
: a player who not only could play off of Rose, but who could get his own shot,
: who could consistently and reliably hit shots in air-tight playoff games. If
: they didn't get one this season, they weren't going to win a championship,
: plain and simple.
自從去年東區冠軍第五戰後,
所有職業籃球相關的人們都一直在討論一件事:
"要是公牛有多一個能夠幫助玫瑰的人",
不是幫忙搶板,
不是幫忙防守,
不是幫忙傳球。
公牛需要的不只是一個能跟玫瑰一起合作的人,
而且是個能夠自己投籃得分,
能夠在令人屏息的季後賽中可以持續而可靠得分的人。
如果他們找不到這個人,
公牛沒有辦法贏得總冠軍,
就是這麼簡單。
: But now they have one in Hamilton, a man who has averaged 20 points a game for
: 120 playoff games, something only Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki and Tim Duncan
: among active players can say. You want to get the downside out of the way
: first? Hamilton doesn't really stretch the floor; he's a below average 3-point
: shooter at his position (34.7 percent career). And he isn't a dynamic
: personality by any stretch. Hamilton's unlikely, his peers say, to take over
: any active leadership role with his new team because that wasn't his style with
: his old team, the Pistons, even though he was, along with Chauncey Billups, the
: team's best player.
但他們現在有了RIP,
一個在120場以上季後賽平均得分超過20分的人,
現役中只有老大、德老、TD能做到這件事。
你想先從悲觀的角度來看這件事?
RIP並不能真正的拉開防守圈;
他只是個三分命中率低於平均(生涯34.7%)的射手。
還有他並不具有一夫當關萬夫莫敵的性格。
RIP並不像那些有著他數據的人一樣,
去在他的新球隊中擔任領導者的角色,
因為這並不是他在活塞隊所做的事,
就算他是,
那也是跟隊上最優秀的球員槍西一起做的。
: Now for the upside, of which there is plenty. Not only has Hamilton always been
: a scorer, but he does it without hogging the ball and makes a defense work
: tirelessly to guard him. He's a more reliable scorer than anybody (outside of
: Rose) the Bulls had in uniform during the Miami series. Had Hamilton been on
: the floor when LeBron James and a teammate were jumping Rose just inside
: midcourt, Hamilton would have knocked down 12- to 15-footers all night. It's
: what he has done for a living his entire NBA career. He led the Pistons in
: scoring eight times in nine seasons, six of which ended in trips to the
: conference finals, two of which ended with trips to the NBA Finals, one of
: which ended in a championship.
從正面的角度來看,
有非常多的點。
RIP不只是一直是個得分手,
更是個不需要一球在手而且能夠讓防守他的人疲於奔波的得分手。
他是個比在熱火系列當中,
玫瑰以外的任何公牛球員,
都更可靠的得分手。
如果那時當LBJ跟另一個熱火球員撲向玫瑰時,
RIP在場上,
他會一整個晚上都不停的投進12到15呎的跳投。
這就是他職業生涯一直在做的事情。
他在活塞九個球季當中有八個球季平均得分最多,
當中六個球季打到東區冠軍賽、兩個打進NBA決賽並且拿到一個冠軍。
: One of the things Coach Tom Thibodeau must be fairly happy with is that he's
: also getting a two-way player. That wouldn't have been the case with Jamal
: Crawford or some of the other shooters available. Hamilton has never been
: afraid to play defense and at 6-foot-7 gives the backcourt a length it didn't
: have with Keith Bogans.
其中最讓Thib開心的事情是RIP是個攻防兩端都有所本的球員。
不像JC或其他可以接洽的射手。
RIP從來不畏懼防守,
而且他6-7的身高能夠給予KB所不能給予的後場高度。
: If you were looking for me to list "age" as a downside, sorry to disappoint.
: It's an asset. Perhaps you've noticed over the past, oh, 75 years; youngsters
: don't win squat in the NBA. OK, Magic Johnson led the Lakers to a championship
: as a rookie, but otherwise it's old guys who have had the success, so it's
: geezers you want, at least a couple of them, and the Bulls, especially with the
: departure of Kurt Thomas, didn't really have any. Just look at the Mavericks,
: the reigning champs, featuring Dirk, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry and Brendan
: Haywood, all of whom are past 30. You're not asking Hamilton to score 20 a game
: or carry the load he did in Detroit all those years, but 15 points a game on,
: say, 45 percent shooting would be an enormous upgrade from Keith Bogans' 4.4
: points a game last season.
如果你期待我把年紀當做個負面因素,
抱歉讓你失望。
這是個助力。
也許當你回顧過去75年的NBA歷史,
年輕王牌並不能盤據NBA總冠軍的地位。
魔術的確在新人年帶領湖人贏得總冠軍,
除了他這個詭異的特例之外,
都是成熟的球員獲得成功。
尤其當公牛在KT離開之後,
他們更沒有這樣一個老將。
看看衛冕冠軍小牛,
有個德老、Kidd、JET還有黑霧,
這些人都超過30歲。
你不會去要求RIP像他在活塞的時候一樣,
負擔每場得個二十分以上的責任,
但就算他每場用45%的投籃命中率得個15分,
比起KB已經是非常大的升級。
: Nearly as much as a reliable scorer, the Bulls could use a guard who knows how
: to get away from a smothering defense, who knows how to make adjustments on the
: fly, how to calm young and perhaps overly excited teammates, how to make foul
: shots (85 percent) with a season on the line. They need a player who has actual
: championship experience, a player who knows what to do in June as well as
: Dwyane Wade and Ray Allen. Hamilton has that kind of experience and knowledge
: in abundance.
如同是個穩定得得分手,
公牛可以有一個定海神針,
他知道怎樣擺脫窒息式防守,
知道怎樣快速的做出調整,
知道怎樣冷靜年輕且可能過度興奮的隊友們,
知道如何在罰球線上得一整季的分。
他們需要一個像典韋跟雷槍一樣,
有著總冠軍經驗且知道在六月時該怎樣做的人。
RIP有很多這樣的經驗跟知識。
: rather have signed Rip to a deal for two years and $10 million instead of
: including a partial guarantee on a third option year, but relatively speaking,
: Hamilton comes cheap. Championships cost money. And it's not like the Bulls had
: to give up one of the bigs in a deal or had to part with one of their
: first-round draft picks. The most important factor in this compressed NBA
: season might well be depth, and the Bulls have as much of it as any team in the
: league, even with Thomas departing for Portland.
更何況簽下的是一個兩年10M的合約,
而且第三年還是部分保障的選擇權,
RIP這個約相對起來是便宜的。
總冠軍需要錢來打造。
再加上公牛不像是願意把大個子,
或第一輪選秀交易出去的時候
而在這個緊縮的NBA球季中最重要的事情莫過於陣容深度,
而公牛即使在KT去了阿拓的情況下,
仍然擁有比起全聯盟任何球隊都不遜色的陣容深度。
: Hamilton joins Rose, Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer and Luol Deng to give the Bulls
: a pretty complete starting five. They'll be fortified by Taj Gibson, Omer Asik,
: Ronnie Brewer, C.J. Watson and Kyle Korver coming off the bench. That's 10
: players, all of whom play regularly in familiar roles every night. It's
: important that Hamilton isn't the kind of player who's going to disrupt the
: team either on the floor or in the locker room, in a season with an abbreviated
: training camp and precious little time to make major adjustments before the
: schedule is in full swing.
RIP將加入玫瑰、NOAH、BOO、滷蛋並且讓公牛有一個很完整的先發陣容,
他們背後還有TAJ、ASIK、RB、CJ、KK組起的板凳堡壘防禦著。
這是一個十人的陣容,
而且當中每個人每個晚上都會有秩序的扮演著他們熟悉的角色。
在這樣一個正式開打前,
季前訓練時間縮短、沒有什麼時間做出大變化的球季當中,
RIP是個不會在場上或休息室打壞球隊運作的新戰力,
尤其的重要。
: (I'm not in the camp with those who think the Bulls ought to break up the team
: to trade for Dwight Howard. That's like turning the car around and going to the
: garage to overhaul the engine. Acquiring Hamilton, on the other hand, is like
: making a pit stop for gas and some air in the tires. A trade for Howard, if he
: could be had, would change the timeline for trying to win a championship,
: pushing the Bulls back at least one full season.)
我不是屬於認為該交易來DH12的陣營中的人。
這就像是把車子開回車庫然後引擎整組換掉一樣。
另一方面,
得到RIP則像是短暫停歇然後加油跟在輪胎充氣,。
如果真的交易來DH,
會將我們奪得冠軍的時表改變,
倒退回一個球季以前。
: It has to be mentioned that Hamilton had issues with his coach, John Kuester,
: last season, which must have given Gar Forman and John Paxson pause when
: pondering the club's options. The Pistons, though, were such a mess that
: Kuester has to accept a big share of the blame. Thing is, in all the years
: before that, in Detroit, in Washington where he was drafted out of college, and
: at UConn, Hamilton had been the consummate professional. He was a drama-free
: player long enough to get the benefit of the doubt. Look, if Hamilton was
: obsessed with getting "his shots" and didn't want to play defense, he wouldn't
: have been interested in joining the Bulls. Hamilton played against the Bulls
: last year and has played against Thibs' defense for years; he knows exactly
: what's going to be demanded of him.
提到RIP上季在活塞跟他的教練Kuester發生的問題,
這當然會讓Gar跟Paxson在考慮這個選項的時候,
多思考一下。
雖然當時那樣一個混亂的狀況,
有很大一部分是要由Kuester來分擔責任的。
事實上,
在這件事之前的所有時候,
在活塞、他被選中待在華盛頓的時候、在康乃狄克時,
他都是非常敬業的。
他長久以來一直是個跟(違抗教練)這件事情絕緣的人,
讓他能在這樣的懷疑之中得到有利於他的結論。
如果RIP不想去投(他該投的)籃跟防守的話,
他不會有興趣加入公牛的。
RIP上季就跟公牛交手,
而且對抗Thib的防守體系好幾年了;
他知道Thib會怎樣的要求他。
: The pipe dream, as we approach the Christmas season, might have been waking up
: one morning and finding Arron Afflalo in a package under the tree. Everybody
: other than Jason Richardson (who got $11 million more) has issues. Nick Young,
: for instance, may be on his way to becoming a consistent 20-point scorer but he
: plays no defense and has no experience of consequence in postseason games.
在這樣的聖誕節慶時節,
那個阿法列羅會像個聖誕禮物一樣,
會在一個交易中放在聖誕樹下來到公牛的白日夢,
遲早有天會被敲醒。
任何除了JR(他拿了比RIP合約多11M的薪水)以外的選項,
都有問題存在。
以尼克楊為例,
他也許正在成為一個每天都能得20分以上的得分手的路上,
但是他沒有防守也沒有季後賽經驗。
: So, if you want to say the Bulls made the safe pick, fine. You'd be right. As
: this strangest of seasons begins, the Bulls are getting a player low on
: acrobatics but high on nuance and subtlety -- and putting the ball in the
: basket. Rip Hamilton has scored all his life and can probably score in his
: sleep. The bet here is he's going to be the player who allows the Bulls every
: reasonable chance to travel the distance between contender and champ.
所以,
如果你想說公牛只是做個安全的選擇,
也可以。
你是對的。
在這樣一個超奇怪的球季開打前,
公牛得到這樣一個功能的多元性上比較低度,
卻高度細膩跟專精,
而且會得分的的球員。
RIP職業生涯一直都在得分,
甚至在睡覺時都可能得分。
在這裡所下的賭注,
就是他將會是能夠給予公牛每一個合理的機會,
允許公牛穿越競爭者跟冠軍這段旅程的球員。
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