Re: [外電] The Rich Get Richard

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※ 引述《eertllams (Tree666)》之銘言: : The rich get Richard : New Bull Hamilton's track record as a scorer makes him a worthwhile pickup : http://tinyurl.com/6rqu8uh : By Michael Wilbon : ESPNChicago.com : He's not a splashy addition, Richard Hamilton, but a wise one, perhaps exactly : what the Chicago Bulls need, all things considered. Don't fool yourself, don't : try for one second to make the case that the Bulls didn't need a new wingman : for Derrick Rose because they absolutely did. To stay ahead of the Celtics, : Knicks and Pacers and to have any real chance of overtaking the Heat, the Bulls : needed at least one more player who could do the most basic thing in : basketball: score. RIP的加入並非令人驚許的, 但是卻是個智慧的決定, 而且考量到各個層面, 可能正是公牛所最需要的選項。 不要欺騙自己、不要花任何一秒鐘解釋公牛不需要一個搖擺人來協助玫瑰, 因為公牛就是需要。 為了持續領先綠軍、尼克還有溜馬以及真正有機會超越熱火, 公牛至少需要一個球員能做籃球比賽中最基本的事情:得分。 : Everybody in and around pro basketball has been saying the same thing about the : Bulls since Game 5 of the Eastern Conference finals. "If they only had one more : guy to help Rose." Not to rebound, not to defend, not to pass. The Bulls needed : a player who not only could play off of Rose, but who could get his own shot, : who could consistently and reliably hit shots in air-tight playoff games. If : they didn't get one this season, they weren't going to win a championship, : plain and simple. 自從去年東區冠軍第五戰後, 所有職業籃球相關的人們都一直在討論一件事: "要是公牛有多一個能夠幫助玫瑰的人", 不是幫忙搶板, 不是幫忙防守, 不是幫忙傳球。 公牛需要的不只是一個能跟玫瑰一起合作的人, 而且是個能夠自己投籃得分, 能夠在令人屏息的季後賽中可以持續而可靠得分的人。 如果他們找不到這個人, 公牛沒有辦法贏得總冠軍, 就是這麼簡單。 : But now they have one in Hamilton, a man who has averaged 20 points a game for : 120 playoff games, something only Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki and Tim Duncan : among active players can say. You want to get the downside out of the way : first? Hamilton doesn't really stretch the floor; he's a below average 3-point : shooter at his position (34.7 percent career). And he isn't a dynamic : personality by any stretch. Hamilton's unlikely, his peers say, to take over : any active leadership role with his new team because that wasn't his style with : his old team, the Pistons, even though he was, along with Chauncey Billups, the : team's best player. 但他們現在有了RIP, 一個在120場以上季後賽平均得分超過20分的人, 現役中只有老大、德老、TD能做到這件事。 你想先從悲觀的角度來看這件事? RIP並不能真正的拉開防守圈; 他只是個三分命中率低於平均(生涯34.7%)的射手。 還有他並不具有一夫當關萬夫莫敵的性格。 RIP並不像那些有著他數據的人一樣, 去在他的新球隊中擔任領導者的角色, 因為這並不是他在活塞隊所做的事, 就算他是, 那也是跟隊上最優秀的球員槍西一起做的。 : Now for the upside, of which there is plenty. Not only has Hamilton always been : a scorer, but he does it without hogging the ball and makes a defense work : tirelessly to guard him. He's a more reliable scorer than anybody (outside of : Rose) the Bulls had in uniform during the Miami series. Had Hamilton been on : the floor when LeBron James and a teammate were jumping Rose just inside : midcourt, Hamilton would have knocked down 12- to 15-footers all night. It's : what he has done for a living his entire NBA career. He led the Pistons in : scoring eight times in nine seasons, six of which ended in trips to the : conference finals, two of which ended with trips to the NBA Finals, one of : which ended in a championship. 從正面的角度來看, 有非常多的點。 RIP不只是一直是個得分手, 更是個不需要一球在手而且能夠讓防守他的人疲於奔波的得分手。 他是個比在熱火系列當中, 玫瑰以外的任何公牛球員, 都更可靠的得分手。 如果那時當LBJ跟另一個熱火球員撲向玫瑰時, RIP在場上, 他會一整個晚上都不停的投進12到15呎的跳投。 這就是他職業生涯一直在做的事情。 他在活塞九個球季當中有八個球季平均得分最多, 當中六個球季打到東區冠軍賽、兩個打進NBA決賽並且拿到一個冠軍。 : One of the things Coach Tom Thibodeau must be fairly happy with is that he's : also getting a two-way player. That wouldn't have been the case with Jamal : Crawford or some of the other shooters available. Hamilton has never been : afraid to play defense and at 6-foot-7 gives the backcourt a length it didn't : have with Keith Bogans. 其中最讓Thib開心的事情是RIP是個攻防兩端都有所本的球員。 不像JC或其他可以接洽的射手。 RIP從來不畏懼防守, 而且他6-7的身高能夠給予KB所不能給予的後場高度。 : If you were looking for me to list "age" as a downside, sorry to disappoint. : It's an asset. Perhaps you've noticed over the past, oh, 75 years; youngsters : don't win squat in the NBA. OK, Magic Johnson led the Lakers to a championship : as a rookie, but otherwise it's old guys who have had the success, so it's : geezers you want, at least a couple of them, and the Bulls, especially with the : departure of Kurt Thomas, didn't really have any. Just look at the Mavericks, : the reigning champs, featuring Dirk, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry and Brendan : Haywood, all of whom are past 30. You're not asking Hamilton to score 20 a game : or carry the load he did in Detroit all those years, but 15 points a game on, : say, 45 percent shooting would be an enormous upgrade from Keith Bogans' 4.4 : points a game last season. 如果你期待我把年紀當做個負面因素, 抱歉讓你失望。 這是個助力。 也許當你回顧過去75年的NBA歷史, 年輕王牌並不能盤據NBA總冠軍的地位。 魔術的確在新人年帶領湖人贏得總冠軍, 除了他這個詭異的特例之外, 都是成熟的球員獲得成功。 尤其當公牛在KT離開之後, 他們更沒有這樣一個老將。 看看衛冕冠軍小牛, 有個德老、Kidd、JET還有黑霧, 這些人都超過30歲。 你不會去要求RIP像他在活塞的時候一樣, 負擔每場得個二十分以上的責任, 但就算他每場用45%的投籃命中率得個15分, 比起KB已經是非常大的升級。 : Nearly as much as a reliable scorer, the Bulls could use a guard who knows how : to get away from a smothering defense, who knows how to make adjustments on the : fly, how to calm young and perhaps overly excited teammates, how to make foul : shots (85 percent) with a season on the line. They need a player who has actual : championship experience, a player who knows what to do in June as well as : Dwyane Wade and Ray Allen. Hamilton has that kind of experience and knowledge : in abundance. 如同是個穩定得得分手, 公牛可以有一個定海神針, 他知道怎樣擺脫窒息式防守, 知道怎樣快速的做出調整, 知道怎樣冷靜年輕且可能過度興奮的隊友們, 知道如何在罰球線上得一整季的分。 他們需要一個像典韋跟雷槍一樣, 有著總冠軍經驗且知道在六月時該怎樣做的人。 RIP有很多這樣的經驗跟知識。 : rather have signed Rip to a deal for two years and $10 million instead of : including a partial guarantee on a third option year, but relatively speaking, : Hamilton comes cheap. Championships cost money. And it's not like the Bulls had : to give up one of the bigs in a deal or had to part with one of their : first-round draft picks. The most important factor in this compressed NBA : season might well be depth, and the Bulls have as much of it as any team in the : league, even with Thomas departing for Portland. 更何況簽下的是一個兩年10M的合約, 而且第三年還是部分保障的選擇權, RIP這個約相對起來是便宜的。 總冠軍需要錢來打造。 再加上公牛不像是願意把大個子, 或第一輪選秀交易出去的時候 而在這個緊縮的NBA球季中最重要的事情莫過於陣容深度, 而公牛即使在KT去了阿拓的情況下, 仍然擁有比起全聯盟任何球隊都不遜色的陣容深度。 : Hamilton joins Rose, Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer and Luol Deng to give the Bulls : a pretty complete starting five. They'll be fortified by Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, : Ronnie Brewer, C.J. Watson and Kyle Korver coming off the bench. That's 10 : players, all of whom play regularly in familiar roles every night. It's : important that Hamilton isn't the kind of player who's going to disrupt the : team either on the floor or in the locker room, in a season with an abbreviated : training camp and precious little time to make major adjustments before the : schedule is in full swing. RIP將加入玫瑰、NOAH、BOO、滷蛋並且讓公牛有一個很完整的先發陣容, 他們背後還有TAJ、ASIK、RB、CJ、KK組起的板凳堡壘防禦著。 這是一個十人的陣容, 而且當中每個人每個晚上都會有秩序的扮演著他們熟悉的角色。 在這樣一個正式開打前, 季前訓練時間縮短、沒有什麼時間做出大變化的球季當中, RIP是個不會在場上或休息室打壞球隊運作的新戰力, 尤其的重要。 : (I'm not in the camp with those who think the Bulls ought to break up the team : to trade for Dwight Howard. That's like turning the car around and going to the : garage to overhaul the engine. Acquiring Hamilton, on the other hand, is like : making a pit stop for gas and some air in the tires. A trade for Howard, if he : could be had, would change the timeline for trying to win a championship, : pushing the Bulls back at least one full season.) 我不是屬於認為該交易來DH12的陣營中的人。 這就像是把車子開回車庫然後引擎整組換掉一樣。 另一方面, 得到RIP則像是短暫停歇然後加油跟在輪胎充氣,。 如果真的交易來DH, 會將我們奪得冠軍的時表改變, 倒退回一個球季以前。 : It has to be mentioned that Hamilton had issues with his coach, John Kuester, : last season, which must have given Gar Forman and John Paxson pause when : pondering the club's options. The Pistons, though, were such a mess that : Kuester has to accept a big share of the blame. Thing is, in all the years : before that, in Detroit, in Washington where he was drafted out of college, and : at UConn, Hamilton had been the consummate professional. He was a drama-free : player long enough to get the benefit of the doubt. Look, if Hamilton was : obsessed with getting "his shots" and didn't want to play defense, he wouldn't : have been interested in joining the Bulls. Hamilton played against the Bulls : last year and has played against Thibs' defense for years; he knows exactly : what's going to be demanded of him. 提到RIP上季在活塞跟他的教練Kuester發生的問題, 這當然會讓Gar跟Paxson在考慮這個選項的時候, 多思考一下。 雖然當時那樣一個混亂的狀況, 有很大一部分是要由Kuester來分擔責任的。 事實上, 在這件事之前的所有時候, 在活塞、他被選中待在華盛頓的時候、在康乃狄克時, 他都是非常敬業的。 他長久以來一直是個跟(違抗教練)這件事情絕緣的人, 讓他能在這樣的懷疑之中得到有利於他的結論。 如果RIP不想去投(他該投的)籃跟防守的話, 他不會有興趣加入公牛的。 RIP上季就跟公牛交手, 而且對抗Thib的防守體系好幾年了; 他知道Thib會怎樣的要求他。 : The pipe dream, as we approach the Christmas season, might have been waking up : one morning and finding Arron Afflalo in a package under the tree. Everybody : other than Jason Richardson (who got $11 million more) has issues. Nick Young, : for instance, may be on his way to becoming a consistent 20-point scorer but he : plays no defense and has no experience of consequence in postseason games. 在這樣的聖誕節慶時節, 那個阿法列羅會像個聖誕禮物一樣, 會在一個交易中放在聖誕樹下來到公牛的白日夢, 遲早有天會被敲醒。 任何除了JR(他拿了比RIP合約多11M的薪水)以外的選項, 都有問題存在。 以尼克楊為例, 他也許正在成為一個每天都能得20分以上的得分手的路上, 但是他沒有防守也沒有季後賽經驗。 : So, if you want to say the Bulls made the safe pick, fine. You'd be right. As : this strangest of seasons begins, the Bulls are getting a player low on : acrobatics but high on nuance and subtlety -- and putting the ball in the : basket. Rip Hamilton has scored all his life and can probably score in his : sleep. The bet here is he's going to be the player who allows the Bulls every : reasonable chance to travel the distance between contender and champ. 所以, 如果你想說公牛只是做個安全的選擇, 也可以。 你是對的。 在這樣一個超奇怪的球季開打前, 公牛得到這樣一個功能的多元性上比較低度, 卻高度細膩跟專精, 而且會得分的的球員。 RIP職業生涯一直都在得分, 甚至在睡覺時都可能得分。 在這裡所下的賭注, 就是他將會是能夠給予公牛每一個合理的機會, 允許公牛穿越競爭者跟冠軍這段旅程的球員。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.24.3.205

12/16 16:27, , 1F
翻得真好! 等不及要看新球季公牛的表現了~!!
12/16 16:27, 1F
※ 編輯: AhUtopian 來自: 114.24.3.205 (12/16 16:42)

12/16 17:18, , 2F
Rip的打法不算搖擺人吧XD
12/16 17:18, 2F

12/16 17:39, , 3F
搖擺人的翻譯來自winger 其實翻做兩翼球員會貼切點
12/16 17:39, 3F

12/16 17:40, , 4F
簡單的說就是2、3號位置球員
12/16 17:40, 4F

12/16 18:22, , 5F
Miller也是打G/F 打法一樣也很少人叫他搖擺人啊
12/16 18:22, 5F

12/16 18:23, , 6F
像MJ Carter T-MAC Kobe PP這類型球員才會稱作搖擺人
12/16 18:23, 6F

12/16 18:24, , 7F
被快艇簽走的C.Butler也算是
12/16 18:24, 7F

12/16 18:28, , 8F
還有搖擺人是swingman wingman應該是側翼球員??
12/16 18:28, 8F

12/16 18:29, , 9F
看到這推文只能ㄎㄎ了~
12/16 18:29, 9F

12/16 19:00, , 10F
Amilous真的把我搞混了
12/16 19:00, 10F

12/16 19:03, , 11F
還是swingman=wingman 且搖擺人=側翼球員?orz
12/16 19:03, 11F

12/16 19:16, , 12F
swingman是指在位置上可以轉換,Wing應該就是側翼吧?
12/16 19:16, 12F

12/16 19:17, , 13F
因為這篇外電內文是寫wingman啊@@
12/16 19:17, 13F

12/16 19:17, , 14F
而這裡的wingman更有兩種意思,不但是側翼球員也可以
12/16 19:17, 14F

12/16 19:18, , 15F
解釋成玫瑰的助手,總之我認為不是搖擺人的意思....
12/16 19:18, 15F

12/16 22:30, , 16F
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12/17 00:35, , 17F
所以BOGANS退休了嗎??
12/17 00:35, 17F

12/17 00:39, , 18F
這隻不錯阿 不過單獨取分能力較弱 需要戰術輔助
12/17 00:39, 18F

12/17 00:49, , 19F
借問一下 明天熱身賽會有LIVE可以看嗎
12/17 00:49, 19F

12/17 00:58, , 20F
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12/17 02:38, , 21F
看到睡覺那句我笑了XDD
12/17 02:38, 21F

12/17 21:15, , 22F
推翻譯
12/17 21:15, 22F

12/10 13:32, 6年前 , 23F
翻得真好! 等不及要看 https://daxiv.com
12/10 13:32, 23F

04/19 03:31, 6年前 , 24F
Miller也是打G/ https://muxiv.com
04/19 03:31, 24F
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