[討論] 從Yahoo找到的據說是現場人員PO文

看板Jeremy_Lin (林書豪)作者 (很好!以後睡覺都開燈!)時間12年前 (2013/01/22 20:18), 編輯推噓232(2320408)
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==以下轉錄自Yahoo討論區== ==來源是百度討論區 == *補上百度英文* 感謝轉載gdlhl2010大大翻譯 我在比賽的現場 我坐在籃球架後面的大概第四五排的位置,我能看到很多你們在電視上看不到的畫面。我 希望以下這些消息對你們有用,我待會也有上傳一些我拍攝的錄影,包括林主導的快攻和 大號兩分。 Analysis: I know many of you are disappointed at Lin's performance tonight, but probably not more than me that actually paid to be dissapointed. However, I went not expecting Lin to play great but to be able to see him live and analysis what was happening by looking for things that normally I wouldn't be looking at. 你們很多人對林今晚的表現不大滿意,但是我比你們更不爽,我還花錢找罪受了呢。但是 ,我本來也沒期待林神武發揮,只是去看看他現在的狀況怎樣,他發生了什麼事情,好分 析下我今晚看到的一些不正常的情況。 Beginning of the game: As the game began the first thing I noticed was Lin's style of play. I'm not exaggerating when I say that Lin's job was just to pass the half court line and pass it to someone else. Yes! That was all he looked to do. He would be searching the court (looking around) for whom to give the ball to. And I don't mean like, who to pass the ball to and make a play, but someone to GIVE the ball to for them to make a play. I know many of you blame Lin himself for this, that he should be more aggressive etc… But I will defer with that conclusion. I don't think it's Lin's fault completly. Let me explain. 比賽開始,我觀察林的比賽方式,毫不誇張的說,林的工作就是運球過半場,然後傳給別 的隊員。他在場上四下望望,看看能把球傳給誰。而且我的意思是,不是那種組織進攻式 的把球傳給某人,而是把球丟給某人,讓對方去組織次進攻。我知道很多人都把這個情況 歸罪於林書豪自己,他應該更有侵略性什麼什麼的。但我覺得這不全是林的錯。待我解釋 。 In the third quarter, even though Lin wasn't controlling the offense completely, he looked,seemed and was much more active in everything. He got outspoken and began giving orders to different players like Asik and Morris etc… He was getting back in the game, but in a shooting foul play Sampson called Lin and began to talk to him. As he was talking Lin replied back while Sampson began walking away and said something at the end. Lin turned around and had this "whatever," look. Not a "whatever" as in I don't care. But more like, "You guys don't let me do anything, whatever look." Needless to say he was benched for the whole fourth quarter. I'm not saying it was because of that because Sampson didn't see that but still he was benched the whole fourth quarter. 在第三節的時候,儘管林沒有完全的掌控進攻,但是看起來他在很多方面都積極多了,他 向阿西克莫里斯等隊友們傳達指令。他重回賽場,因為一次犯規,桑普森把他叫到一邊開 始跟他說話。桑普森嘴裏對林說著最後一句話然後走開了,林回答了他,轉過身時臉上是 那種“管你呢”的表情。不是那種“我不介意,隨你”的表情,更像是那種“你們這些人 什麼都不讓我做,管你們呢”。而他第四節一直被按在板凳上。我沒說他是因為那個表情 做了板凳,因為桑普森根本沒看到那一幕,但他還是在第四節坐了整整一節的冷板凳。 One thing I want to point out. Maybe you are thinking, "Why you say Sampson, don't you mean McHale"? Well, no. I meant Sampson. There was one instance when I thought to myself, "Wait, who is the coach"? Because half the time Sampson was the one standing up and walking around and talking to the guys while McHale was sitting down. It seemed that Sampson was as, even more involved that McHale was. I don't know much about coaches and assistant coaches but it seemed really weird. Does that happen often? I sure haven't seen it. 有件事情我想指出來,也許你們會想“為什麼是桑普森呢,難道不該是麥克海爾麼?”我 說的就是桑普森。我還想“等等,那個教練是誰啊?”因為有一半時間海爾坐在那兒,是 桑普森站起來,走來走去的跟球員們說話。看起來好像桑普森參與的比海爾還多。我不知 道教練和助理教練應該是怎樣分工。但是感覺這種情況有點怪。這種事經常發生麼? One side comment. Beverly is ok, he is not really good, or great oranything like that. Which still is mind boggling why they will sit not only Lin but Douglas in the bench. I don't see anything that makes Beverly better than Douglas and of course not Lin. Yes he made a 3 in the fourth but he also missed the next one. My cousin said when Beverly made the three, "That's why your boy is in the bench." Later on when he missed I was like, "You see, he is not that good. Yeah he made that one shot but it's not like he is good or really good to bench Lin and Douglas." And I realized something. To try to make sense out of Rockets coaching staff is trying to make sense out of chaos. It just doesn't. The only thing that you will know for sure is that Harden is going to be there no matter what. Which leads me to my next point. 我個人對貝弗利的評價是,還不錯,但也沒那麼好。很震驚的是不僅林,就連道格也一直 板凳,我不覺得貝弗利比道格好,更不覺得比林好。他第四節是中了個三分,但隨後也投 丟了個。當貝弗利命中那個三分時,我表弟就說“這就是你家林書豪做板凳的原因。”接 下來貝弗利立刻打了一鐵,我就說“你看吧,他也沒那麼好,他中了一個三分不代表他就 能好到讓林和道格坐板凳啊,”這時我領悟了一些事。火箭教練組簡直就是一團糟,你所 能知道的就是不管怎樣哈登是戰術裏的一部分,這又引申到我下一個觀點。 Unfairness: As the season went by I started to defend McHale and the coaching staff. I thought some people were overacting. But as I watched the game there was something clear as day. At the beginning of the game, Harden had 3 blocked shots, like 3 turnovers on top of that and he wasn't making a basket. So what happens? Well, obviously you keep Harden on, duh! But what if is Lin? Well, if Lin get's blocked twice… you take him out, duh! Of course, this is not the main issue. The main issue is the coaches expression. When Harden forced a charge when he had an open man in the left corner the coaching staff starts clapping. When Lin was aggressive and something bad happened the reactions were totally different. More like when you think someone is bad at the game so you don't want him to do much because you don't trust him. And then he makes a mistake and you shake your head thinking, "why didn't he pass it to the other guy…"? Well, that was their expression when Lin made a mistake. Needless to say, Lin doesn't get the same treatment that Harden does. AT ALL! Lin is like that kid that you need to play with because you are missing one player but you really don't want to play with him. That's Lin to the coaching staff. And if there is anything that upsets me about the Rockets is this exactly. They don't believe in Lin and today as proof of that. Not because he was benched in the fourth. But, because of the coaching staff reactions against Lin's plays. 在賽季初的時候我還為海爾和教練組辯護過,我覺得有些人反應過度了。但是隨著比賽的 進程,有些事情越來越明朗。在比賽開始的時候,哈登被蓋了三個鍋,一個球都沒進。然 後呢?哈登還是繼續在場上。要是林這樣的話,林被蓋了兩個鍋,於是下場。當然這不是 主要問題。關鍵是教練臉上的表情。當哈登迫使對方球員犯規教練組鼓掌歡慶,當林具有 侵略性的時候,但是結果是失誤或者怎樣之後教練組的表情就大不相同了。就是那種這人 打得這麼糟,我不希望他在場上做太多事情,因為我不信任他。當他犯錯的時候,我就會 搖搖頭,心裏想:“為啥這球不傳給別人呢?”這就是林犯錯時他們的表情。不用多說, 林沒有得到哈登同等的待遇,完全沒有!林就像那種 因為隊裏缺個球員,所以你不得不 讓他上來,但是其實並不是自願的。這就是林對於教練組的意義。而讓我最無語的就是他 們不相信林,而今天就是證據。不是因為他第四節坐板凳,而不是因為他們對待林比賽的 態度和反應。 Other points: Douglas approached Lin in the halftime shoot around and talked about something that seemed meaningful and serious. It seems they are friends to me or at least have a good teammate relationship. Every time there was a time out, Beverly would be the first and sometimes only Rocket that would go to the court to high five teammates. (The other players would wait for them to get to the bench). 中場的時候道格走向林,說了一些話,感覺嚴肅而意味深長。他倆看上去是朋友,隊友關 係很好。每次暫停,貝弗利都是第一個,有時是唯一一個走到場上跟隊友擊掌的球員,其 他球員則等著場上隊員走到替補席才擊掌。 Main point: Lin's confidence is in the floor. When you see Lin "lost." He is not lost. He just doesn't know what to do in this team. Doesn't know why the brought him here, or if they even want him to play his style of basketball. Seems to me Lin is fed up with this, "stand in the 3 point line role." And not fed up as in, "I'm mad and I will prove you wrong." More like, "What's the point…."? I think he cares about his team, but feels unappreciated, that he can't do anything. 而我的主要觀點是:當你看到林“迷失了”一般,他其實並沒有,只是不知道為能這支隊 伍做些什麼,不知道他為什麼在這裏,不知道他們想讓他打出什麼樣的比賽,該怎麼打比 賽。在我看來林已經受夠了“站到三分線,去做底角男”,不是“我瘋了但我要證明你是 錯的。”而更像是“意義何在?”我覺得他在乎這支隊伍,但是覺得不被欣賞,他什麼都 沒法做。 As the third quarter developed you could see it in Lin's face that he wanted it. And it was so upsetting to see him being benched for no reason because he was actually playing good in the third quarter. Which I wonder if they are doing this to trade Beverly or something. Maybe no one wanted Douglas because of the Knicks. But, maybe if Beverly gets more minutes they can get someone interested and trade him. Oh well it doesn't matter. 在第三節的時候你可以看到林的表情,他想要勝利。看他第四節坐板凳蠻讓人糾結的。 在我看來,這賽季林是別想重現林瘋狂了。教練組本也不打算讓這實現。之前的連勝不過 是個異常現象。他們之前是怎麼用林的,現在也是這麼用,之後也會繼續。除非,火箭老 闆介入要求改變。或者,教練組換人。我希望你們享受我的分析,見到我所看到的,實在 讓人失望。我希望儘快發生改變,不然這個教練組會毀了林的職業生涯。 -- 是時候幫林書豪代禱了 -- 新角色蒂歐:你就是那個能實現願望的Q比?學姐就是你害死的?! 小圓:學姐的死不關你事!不要多事!快走! 蒂歐:分不清了!暗戀的學姐就這樣消失就關我事!躲來躲去連學姐的樣子都忘了! 蒂歐:學姐姓巴,名字叫甚麼? Q比:他叫白槍魔女,那個斷頭後身體被吃掉的那就是學姐 Q比:竟然不敢告訴他?好!我告訴你!他叫巴 麻美(願望實現) 蒂歐:好!我現在就幫麻美學姐報仇!!(變身) ---魔法少女かたな★ブレード--- -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.47.177.97

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哭哭
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哭哭
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哭哭
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Q__Q
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01/22 20:26, , 5F
看一個表情可以補出這篇 ,厲害阿!!
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01/22 20:27, , 6F
這就是對岸那篇英文版的翻譯啊
01/22 20:27, 6F

01/22 20:28, , 7F
有對岸的出處嗎?
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01/22 20:29, , 8F
表現不好是事實 得不到教練的肯定 才是刺中心臟的一把利刃
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01/22 20:29, , 9F
Fire Kevin McHale
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01/22 20:30, , 10F
Mcfail:I don't care anyone except for Harden
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01/22 20:30, , 11F
原作者還有拍影片證明他有去看
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01/22 20:30, , 12F
林還是在尼克時開心啊
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01/22 20:30, , 13F
其實有點想推 5F XD 但重點是沒球阿~~~
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01/22 20:35, , 14F
他確實在乎,對林來說不能對球隊做出貢獻就是很糟透的事
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01/22 20:37, , 15F
感謝分享
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01/22 20:39, , 16F
哭哭
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01/22 20:40, , 17F
所以這是老美球迷? 我只想說.....OH MY GOD
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01/22 20:40, , 18F
加強自己才是當務之急...投不進...人家當然就瞧不起你
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01/22 20:41, , 19F
更何況是兩成的命中率...在NBA先發裡面...有點丟臉呢
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01/22 20:43, , 20F
早就說上季栽到林到尼克變林瘋狂後又簽回是重打冰箱的臉
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01/22 20:44, , 21F
變成林來瘋的要件 在現階段裡不太有機會實現
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01/22 20:45, , 22F
以冰箱那種沒有肩膀小心眼的人格,當然就是故意壓抑林
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01/22 20:46, , 23F
我想推樓上
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01/22 20:47, , 24F
我是不便批評他的人格 偏執又主觀 大開眼界
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01/22 20:47, , 25F
來証明林根本沒能力,有一次他接受訪問還說人人都有可能
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01/22 20:47, , 26F
我推樓上想推樓上
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01/22 20:47, , 27F
我覺得沒什麼不好 @_@ 身體健康才重要
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01/22 20:48, , 28F
Lin還這麼年輕為啥要提早進入公務員生涯阿
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01/22 20:49, , 29F
Lin現在一定知道本身的缺點 只能等賽季結束才能加強
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01/22 20:49, , 30F
在某段時間突然爆發,完全不認同林來瘋。而他之前重用TDG
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可能他自己是名人堂的成員吧 覺得真的沒甚麼XDDDDDDDD
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01/22 20:51, , 32F
冰一下也是不錯啦 不然像教練組幾乎只操信任的球員的方法
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01/22 20:51, , 33F
不是因為認可TDG的能力,現在發現小貝比TDG更好用
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01/22 20:53, , 35F
遲早會出問題 跟Lin相比我還比較擔心Harden跟Parsons呢
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TDG就被踢到一邊了,接下來林再表現低檔,先發絕對不保。
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比較討厭是假先發 真替補吧 XDDDDD
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我覺得偽先發機會比較大
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還有 561 則推文
還有 1 段內文
01/23 02:08, , 601F
=============補充完畢之好想酗酒==================
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01/23 02:10, , 602F
太感謝silviasun大了 m(_ _)m
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01/23 02:30, , 603F
林跟鬍子本來就不能歸在同等級同地位 但教練確實有問題
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鬍子近期表現在我看來也不像比LIN高多少等級...
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原PO回應關於互動那裡不意外吧 本來我就這麼覺得
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不過鬍子當年當替補不是當假替補嗎 實際上場比沙發還多
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LIN跟道哥果然!!!!每場開場都會互相訓練說~~~~~
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01/23 08:34, , 608F
所以我一直不希望裁道哥
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2k2y+k越等打怪害我笑出來XDDD 謝謝silvia大!..道哥和LIN
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感覺就是共患難的Q______A
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感覺就是共患難的Q______Q
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01/23 10:05, , 612F
感謝si大後續文的翻譯!
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01/23 10:07, , 613F
超怪的 那前陣子說隊友感情很好是怎麼回事
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01/23 10:08, , 614F
可能是官方消息吧,其實說隊友感情很好但我看比賽看不出
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01/23 10:10, , 615F
這群菜鳥也許都太含蓄了 目前看過有激情撞胸的就一場而已
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昨天看湖人對暴龍 暴龍隊隨便進個一球板凳都超high
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01/23 10:17, , 617F
他們戰績比我們還差不是嗎??
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Lin現在不知道在場上該做什麼, Lin想做的和教練要的不同..
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但是我不認為Lin會擺出"誰管你"這樣的表情..
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雖然我沒看到這表情, 但我腦補認為, 可能比較像"這樣行嗎?"
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看完si大的補充我也好想去買醉了,唉QQ
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xa大,這個外國球迷有特別澄清不是那種who care的表情,
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而是比較接近『算了,反正你們不會讓我做任何事』那種表情
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這季的比賽看下來,我也多次看到Lin在聽教練說完話後,
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臉上有類似無奈的表情
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嗯, 這個我覺得比較有可能, 平常場上的Lin就常有這種感覺了.
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01/23 10:54, , 627F
的確是常常露出無奈的表情
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01/23 12:19, , 628F
但是之前連勝時 覺得球場上火箭球員氣氛不錯 但練敗後...
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01/23 12:46, , 629F
連敗氣氛不會好正常啦~加上我想教練在更衣室裡也有狂飆
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01/23 12:47, , 630F
球員(非腦補 球季初連敗時有外電說教練在更衣室大罵)
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年輕人被罵心情要好也不容易...
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01/23 14:10, , 632F
連勝心情一定好,很多潛在問題會掩蓋起來,但問題還是在
01/23 14:10, 632F

01/23 16:03, , 633F
火箭氣氛一直都很怪 即使連勝也沒很嗨
01/23 16:03, 633F

01/23 22:24, , 634F
所以這篇 #1Gww664H 也只是因為連勝嗎?
01/23 22:24, 634F

01/23 23:26, , 635F
當然...氣勢正好,當然不會去特別提傷感情的問題
01/23 23:26, 635F

01/24 00:52, , 636F
火箭氣氛一直都很怪+1
01/24 00:52, 636F

01/24 00:53, , 637F
01/24 00:53, 637F

01/24 00:54, , 638F
三個人還是友一起打氣 球員間應該沒什麼問題
01/24 00:54, 638F

01/24 11:44, , 639F
純發表這個人的英文滿差的,文法不通。很驚訝竟然翻的出來
01/24 11:44, 639F

01/24 13:25, , 640F
sorry收回上面的推文 之前用手機看沒看清楚
01/24 13:25, 640F
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文章代碼(AID): #1G_eEoGp (Jeremy_Lin)