3 key in this off-season

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (It's the end to me)時間18年前 (2007/05/11 12:00), 編輯推噓35(37225)
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As was said in Part I of this series, the challenge the Lakers face is that if they want to be contenders in the next couple of years they have to do it via trade. They can’t do it through the draft (picking 19) nor do they have the cap room to sign a major free agent. The Lakers have three pieces other teams will be interested in, but really, the bit issue is “The Andrew Bynum Question.” Lakers fans desperately trying to think of a great deal are vastly overrating the desire any NBA team has for Radmanovic, Cook, the barely-able-to-walk McKie (spare me a sign and trade with him, please) — rose-colored glasses wearing fans are seriously overvaluing every available Laker on the roster. Other GMs are not. There are only three key cogs for talks. (To be fair, GMs may ask for Farmar or Turiaf as part of a deal, but as throw ins, not key pieces.) Let’s look at the three big trade pieces the Lakers have, starting with the big question first: Andrew Bynum. This is the big test not because of Bynum but because of what it says about Lakers’ management. Bynum was Jim Buss’ pick and the young Buss is trying to establish a reputation for himself within the organization and around the league. Bynum was the sticking point in Jason Kidd talks back in February, the Lakers refused to part with him. The question now is: Has a second straight first-round playoff loss, this one in ugly fashion after a season that was a step backwards, changed any minds? Or specifically, one mind? It’s easy to see the Lakers reluctance to part with him — legit back-to-the-basket seven footers with loads of potential are a rare find. He’ s not yet 20 and improving, there were flashes this season of a guy who could be a force in the paint. He shot 55.8% this season. And while he struggled the second half of the year, reports are this has not tarnished his trade value (GMs love them some potential). But there are questions. One is his work ethic, something questioned by Phil Jackson (and some other writers close to the team). He has come a long way in two years and clearly has worked hard to improve his game, but if he is not as passionate to keep improving how good does he really become? Frankly, we can speculate but the only people who could answer this well are Kareem and some assistant coaches. Their input should be given heavy weight. Then there is this issue raised by ESPN.com’s David Thorpe (in an email to Henry at True Hoop): How many true big men are left in the playoffs? Who is left? Look at it: Dwight Howard, Shaquille O’Neal, Yao Ming all out; remaining is Golden State without a true big, Utah and Phoenix playing fours as the center, the Bulls have a center who is 6-9. I’m not sold that the league is dramatically changing — if Greg Oden pans out then three years from now every GM will be looking for his clone and writers will be asking, “Where are all the great bigs?” The point is that with the right guys along the front line to fit your system, you don’t need a “classic” center to win. And, the triangle offense (in its pure form) prizes versatility. I’m saying the Lakers can win without a “true” center, if they have guys who can still defend the paint. And offering up Bynum could bring someone like that. If some minds within the Lakers brass think Bynum should be traded at all. Kwame Brown. Don’t overestimate how much teams want him — what they want is his expiring $9.5 million contract. Kwame’s reputation around the league may be better than it was when he came here but it’s not good. He fills in the salary for a trade if one happens. Nothing more. And, despite what Bill Simmons may suggest, the demand for expiring contracts alone seems to be waning among GMs. The Lakers were far from alone in the last couple years of eating expiring deals because there was not much interest from teams to take on your poor, your tired, your oversized-contract players yearning to be free, just to gain a little cap room. You seem to have to offer more than that now, although some fans are a little slow to see that trend. Lamar Odom. With everything that happened to him physically and mentally in the past year, I don’t think you could have asked more of Lamar Odom. As was evidenced in the playoffs, he is one of the few Lakers who “brought it” this year. And, I think with another scorer on board, he would fit just fine in the triangle. But, if you are going after someone off All-Star caliber, then Odom ’s name will come up. I’m not completely opposed to moving him — but a number of criteria have to be met: Moving him removes the Lakers best rebounder (he grabbed 14.5% of the available rebounds while on the court this season, only Bynum had a higher percentage and I hesitate to call the youngster a better all-around guy on the boards than Odom). He is one of the few guys who can be a presence inside on this team. If you are going to move him, you’ve got to get someone who can do more than just replace those skills, you need someone who can do them better and bring more defensive presence inside. There are not many guys who fit that bill. And since more than just Odom would likely be part of such a deal, you need to solve the PG spot as well to make this a viable option. Here’s my thinking on Odom — the Lakers are better off keeping him and bringing in front line or back-court help to pair with him and Kobe. If you bring in a “classic” power forward and move Odom to the small forward, the Lakers become long up front and a real match up problem for other teams. Bring in a great PG and Odom will get the ball in better positions to do damage. Bottom line — if you are getting rid of someone like Odom, who gave so much to the team this past year, you had better get a blockbuster back. One that makes you an instant contender. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 163.25.118.133

05/11 12:03, , 1F
唉別隊也不想用超級重量級換歐登阿.....
05/11 12:03, 1F

05/11 12:04, , 2F
碼的,翻外電是不會附上出處喔
05/11 12:04, 2F

05/11 12:07, , 3F
其實大家都說Bynum的態度不好,但我一直在想一個問題
05/11 12:07, 3F

05/11 12:08, , 4F
他的態度差,跟球隊氣氛有沒有關聯?湖人隊一直營造不出
05/11 12:08, 4F

05/11 12:08, , 5F
「整體」的感覺,就像前面的文章有提到的,真正在關心球隊
05/11 12:08, 5F

05/11 12:09, , 6F
的球員不多,難道這些球員通通有問題?我們丟出去的球員
05/11 12:09, 6F

05/11 12:09, , 7F
反而每個看起來都會新球隊超有歸屬感,到底問題出在哪?
05/11 12:09, 7F

05/11 12:10, , 8F
howsiao怎麼不去電台講給全台灣聽?
05/11 12:10, 8F

05/11 12:12, , 9F
我也覺得Odom不該丟出去.他的貢獻太多了!!
05/11 12:12, 9F

05/11 12:13, , 10F
低位單打.籃板的保護.控球技巧.......講不完~~
05/11 12:13, 10F

05/11 12:13, , 11F
不過他的外線投射能力真的要多加強...還有罰球的穩定~
05/11 12:13, 11F

05/11 12:14, , 12F
不然請二樓的以後幫我們翻外電 要記得附出處喔
05/11 12:14, 12F

05/11 12:14, , 13F
2樓說話請客氣一點...人家好意辛苦幫我們翻外電
05/11 12:14, 13F

05/11 12:15, , 14F
附出處有什麼用,有些人也不一定看得懂,就知道亂罵
05/11 12:15, 14F

05/11 12:18, , 15F
碼的2樓不機掰是會死喔
05/11 12:18, 15F

05/11 12:20, , 16F
算了,id用豪洨,講話大概也很豪洨
05/11 12:20, 16F

05/11 12:21, , 17F
幹,連篇文也沒有還裝正義要出處?先貼篇營養文吧豪洨ꠠ
05/11 12:21, 17F

05/11 12:25, , 18F
2樓吵三小
05/11 12:25, 18F

05/11 12:25, , 19F
請2樓多幫我們翻一些外電吧
05/11 12:25, 19F

05/11 12:26, , 20F
我覺得有kobeslaker在湖人版真的很棒
05/11 12:26, 20F

05/11 12:26, , 21F
可以看到很多外電翻譯
05/11 12:26, 21F

05/11 12:27, , 22F
沒錯,大推kobeslaker大
05/11 12:27, 22F

05/11 12:27, , 23F
可是如果再加上出處就超完美了啦
05/11 12:27, 23F

05/11 12:28, , 24F
這樣像二樓的小白就無話可說了
05/11 12:28, 24F

05/11 12:30, , 25F
感謝精采的外電翻譯Orz
05/11 12:30, 25F

05/11 12:30, , 26F
蛤~~~ 鑰匙只有3把喔???...哼...("▔ 3▔)...
05/11 12:30, 26F

05/11 12:36, , 27F
呵...這篇沒題到樓上 再吃醋阿0.0?
05/11 12:36, 27F

05/11 12:36, , 28F
看二樓在EZchat發文的水準就知道,別再丟113的臉了..
05/11 12:36, 28F

05/11 12:37, , 29F
「超級重量級」...重量的單位是KG嗎? XDDDD
05/11 12:37, 29F

05/11 12:37, , 30F
2F吃大便 <( ‵▽′)-σ__ˍˍ▁▁▂▂▃▃▄▄▅▅▆▆
05/11 12:37, 30F

05/11 12:40, , 31F
推K大
05/11 12:40, 31F

05/11 12:46, , 32F
二樓人如其名(  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ
05/11 12:46, 32F

05/11 13:30, , 33F
推 就算是外電 人家也是花時間翻的
05/11 13:30, 33F

05/11 13:35, , 34F
2樓去看playboy好了 你只看的懂這個外電
05/11 13:35, 34F

05/11 13:39, , 35F
大推!! 看到2樓的傢伙覺得很傷眼睛
05/11 13:39, 35F

05/11 13:41, , 36F
老實說,真的應該加出處...
05/11 13:41, 36F

05/11 13:42, , 37F
但還是感謝啦
05/11 13:42, 37F

05/11 13:49, , 38F
大推kobeslaker大~不要理2樓就沒事了 幼稚鬼都這樣~
05/11 13:49, 38F

05/11 14:40, , 39F
果然季後賽一結束就恢復優質的湖人版了..(‵▽′)ψ
05/11 14:40, 39F

05/11 16:14, , 40F
附出原文出處是基本常識吧...這樣每篇搞得像是自已寫的
05/11 16:14, 40F

05/11 16:18, , 41F
有Odom又要有強力前鋒,這有可能嗎
05/11 16:18, 41F

05/11 16:25, , 42F
推kobeslaker大~~我的英文就很濫.不然2樓的也幫忙一下
05/11 16:25, 42F
※ 編輯: kobeslaker 來自: 163.25.118.133 (05/11 16:31)

05/11 16:34, , 43F
我指的是原文網址 就一小段而已...
05/11 16:34, 43F

05/11 16:34, , 44F
現在又刻意把文章改掉...玩起民粹來了...
05/11 16:34, 44F

05/11 16:38, , 45F
這是他個人的翻譯文 他高興如何就如何啊 :P 看看原文也挺好
05/11 16:38, 45F

05/11 16:43, , 46F
本來翻譯或是寫文章就不是義務性的,他愛怎麼搞是他家的
05/11 16:43, 46F

05/11 16:43, , 47F
事,東嫌西嫌的講一大堆也沒看到你們有翻個幾篇有加出處
05/11 16:43, 47F

05/11 16:44, , 48F
的文章?
05/11 16:44, 48F

05/11 16:46, , 49F
別人還肯花自己的時間去找外電去翻譯,外面要幫人翻譯還
05/11 16:46, 49F

05/11 16:46, , 50F
要給錢,現在有人免費幫忙,有些人看完之後還賣乖在那邊靠
05/11 16:46, 50F

05/11 16:46, , 51F
北一堆有的沒的是怎樣?
05/11 16:46, 51F

05/11 16:47, , 52F
要出處的後果就是給你原文 這樣有爽嗎?
05/11 16:47, 52F

05/11 16:47, , 53F
樓上N大也知道原網址只是一小段而已,那怎麼不幫忙附一下
05/11 16:47, 53F

05/11 16:48, , 54F
反正有時間再推文酸何不幫忙把原文找出來不是更好^^
05/11 16:48, 54F

05/11 17:03, , 55F
要出處應該沒有錯吧 錯的應該是要的口氣
05/11 17:03, 55F

05/11 17:21, , 56F
二樓吃炸藥啊! 氣死我...
05/11 17:21, 56F

05/11 17:22, , 57F
囧..按到噓..等會推
05/11 17:22, 57F

05/11 18:03, , 58F
2F是在靠北喔....妳貢獻了沙小阿
05/11 18:03, 58F

05/11 18:15, , 59F
...2F你來翻阿..嫌東嫌西..搞的大家都不能看翻譯..
05/11 18:15, 59F

05/11 19:11, , 60F
推民粹...-.-
05/11 19:11, 60F

05/12 09:57, , 61F
幫K大推回來
05/12 09:57, 61F

05/12 10:17, , 62F
其實沒放上出處是不好的行為...orz
05/12 10:17, 62F

05/12 10:18, , 63F
翻譯固然辛苦,不過著作權還是要顧一下
05/12 10:18, 63F

05/13 00:27, , 64F
樓上這麼厲害 附一下 不要只會說
05/13 00:27, 64F
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