Re: [外電] Lamar Odom: Is It Too Late?

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※ 引述《ricebug ( )》之銘言： : ※ 引述《spock2230 (spock)》之銘言： : : 沒有新消息，只不過補充一下外電相關報導罷了。 : 亂亂翻，加減看。 : : http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13332 : : Lamar Odom: Is It Too Late? : : By: Eric Pincus Last Updated: 7/15/09 4:46 PM ET : : Assuming the Los Angeles Lakers cut guard Sun Yue before August 1st, they are : : committed to 12 players for the 2009/10 season at a total payroll of $83.8 : : million. : 孫大聖八月一號說掰掰，預計開季時湖人有十二名球員，八千三百八十萬的薪資。 : : Add in some $13.9 million in luxury taxes and the Lakers are on the hook for : : $97.8 million. : 加上要付出的一千三百九十萬豪華稅，球員支出來到了九千七百八十萬。 : : Making an offer to free agent forward Lamar Odom took significant : : deliberation between General Manger Mitch Kupchak and the Buss family. : : Faced with the prospect of record overhead and a much tighter profit margin, : : owner Dr. Jerry Buss was quoted by Kupchak as saying, "But we're so damn : : competitive." : 老闆和總管之間就LO的合約進行討論，面對緊繃的狀況(翻得很混) : 老闆引用了總管所說的，我們還是這麼他喵的有競爭力。 : : In giving Odom a chance to make at least $27 million over three years, the : : Lakers felt they were doing the right by Lamar while making the sound : : basketball decision despite the exorbitant cost. : : Unless the Utah Jazz match Paul Millsap's offer sheet and the Portland Trail : : Blazers turn their attention to Lamar, the Lakers may be the only team with : : bidding power. : 湖人認為給三年兩千七百萬已經仁至義盡。 : 除非宅爵跟進小米的約使阿拓必須轉移注意力到LO身上， : 湖人也許是(市場上)唯一有權叫價的球隊。 : : A $34 million Mid-Level Exception deal over five years from a team like the : : Miami HEAT, still isn't close to what the Lakers have offered (even with the : : state tax advantage in Florida - although that perk would be on just half : : Lamar's salary, road games are taxed locally) : : Odom's reluctance to take what the team considers a generous offer has led to : : a stalemate. For now the Lakers have taken it off the table and are : : considering other options. : 就算熱火提出五年三千四百萬的中產，也沒辦法跟湖人相提並論， : 即使佛州有稅務上的優勢，可以讓LO的薪水少砍一半。 : 在客場打球，課稅還是在地主所在地。 : (請看總版#1ANlkcOw claus的文章) : ￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣ : LO不願意接受這份球團認為慷慨的合約讓狀況陷入僵局。 : 現在湖人(／‵Д′)／~ ╧╧，而且決定考慮其他選擇。 : : Strictly from a financial point of view, it makes sense to go after a veteran : : like Joe Smith with a minimum contract despite the drop down in talent. : : Smith is an experienced defender who could help behind Andrew Bynum and Pau : : Gasol even if it's a net loss on the floor considering Lamar's versatility. : : Odom at an $8 million starting salary would cost $16 million with tax and tip : : the total payroll to $113.8 million. : : Smith at the veteran's minimum would up L.A.'s payroll to $99.4 million. : : Buss was willing to authorize that additional $14.4 million but to a player : : who takes that as an insult? : 從財務的觀點，找些有經驗的老兵給個最小的合約也是合情合理的， : 如Joe Smith。他擅長防守，能幫助霸男及嘎獸， : 雖然這樣勢必要犧牲能在球場上全面發揮的LO。 : 付給LO八百萬等於實質上要支出一千六百萬， : 並讓球隊總支出到達一億一千三百八十萬。 : Smith頂多讓湖人總支出到九千九百四十萬。 : Buss願意接受只為了一個球員多付一千四百四十萬的結果嗎? : : In truth, average salary hasn't been an issue for some time. The debate has : : always been about years. : : It took some time to get L.A. to three years but they got there. Odom's camp : : wants five. : 事實上，錢不是問題，問題在年限。湖人出三年，LO想要五年。 : : Five years would make Odom the lone Laker under a guaranteed contract in : : 2013/14, with recently signed Ron Artest owning a player option. Committed : : $10 million to a 35-year-old Odom when the team may be embarking on a rebuild : : is not a consideration. : 五年能讓LO身穿紫金戰袍到13-14球季，跟剛簽約的阿泰一起。 : 屆時LO三十五歲，有一千萬合約，在可能要重建的球隊中可能不再被考慮。 : : Four years for Odom may be workable with Andrew Bynum's $16.1 million on the : : team's option and just Luke Walton and Artest locked in for a combined $13.1 : : million - although adding in near $10 million for Odom could hamper L.A.'s : : ability to reload. : 給LO四年的約也許是可行的， : 屆時加上霸男的有球隊選擇權的約，有一千六百一十萬， : 加上天行者和(有球員選擇權)的阿泰，合計一千三百一十萬， : --雖然能夠多給LO近一千萬，是超過了湖人的負荷能力。 : (這裡需要請高手解釋一下) : : There's a good chance the Lakers lock down Kobe Bryant until the end of the : : 2014 season but Odom doesn't exactly have Bryant's cachet. : : It comes down to the same decision the Boston Celtics had to make on James : : Posey a year ago. They offered three years and Posey wanted four. Boston : : passed and never found a suitable replacement. : : Even without Kevin Garnett, would the Celtics have lost Game 7 to the Orlando : : Magic if Posey was defending Hedo Turkoglu (25 points and 12 assists)? : 現在是個讓老大留到2014球季結束的好機會， : 但LO並未確實擁有老大的保證。 : ("but Odom doesn't exactly have Bryant's cachet.") : 現在的狀況有如一年前的綠衫軍與Posey，綠衫軍提出三年，但後者想要四年。 : 綠衫軍放棄了而且沒有找到合適的代替者。 : 即使沒有了一打五(誤)，在有Posey防守火槍兵(25分12助攻)的情況下 : 綠衫軍還會輸掉第七戰嗎? : : Posey ended up struggling in New Orleans, ultimately having surgery to repair : : a meniscus tear, but the Celtics may have given up a chance to win now : : because of distant financial concern in four year's time. : Posey最後因為動手術修復膝蓋半月板而結束了在紐奧良的球季， : 但綠衫軍也許為了這四年的財務考量放棄了獲勝的機會。 : : Odom is looking at his peers including Turkoglu, Ben Gordon, Andersen Varejao : : and Andrea Bargnani (via contract extension) who were all recipients of big : : dollars and years from their respective teams. : Odom想和他的同儕如火槍兵，假摔王，Ben Gordon，Andrea Bargnani一樣， : 從各自的球隊拿到肥約。 : : Lamar is coming off a championship run. : : There's no black and white answer. The Lakers and Dr. Buss aren't getting : : outbid by a team with cap space. With revenue projections taking a dive next : : year, the tax bill will only climb. : LO正在脫離冠軍的行列。這沒有絕對的答案，湖人和老闆並未在薪資空間上得利。 : 當下季收入計畫出現下降時，稅單只會往上爬。 : : Odom has had a mixed career as a Laker with unreached potential as a star : : dogged by inconsistent play . . . but Lamar has always been also a positive : : voice in the locker room. This year he accepted a demotion to the bench but : : was such a key part of the rotation, he was just as responsible for the : : championship as any starter. : LO並沒有在湖人發揮出他明星等級的潛力，而且表現並不穩定。 : 但LO在更衣室裡總是發出正面的聲音， : 他也接受了板凳的角色，但仍然是這個輪替中的關鍵。 : 他盡責地為冠軍付出，就跟任何先發球員一樣。 : : In the end, there remains a viable chance the saber rattling ceases and both : : parties hash out a compromise. : : If not, finding a sign-and-trade could be quite difficult. The Lakers will : : only take the perfect combination of players back both in talent and price. : 最後，仍然有機會讓拔出咖哩棒互砍的雙方找出一個妥協方案的機會。 : (按:這裡有本人的惡趣味，請多包涵) : 如果不行，尋求先簽後換也是非常難的。 : 湖人將只找一個完美的球員能力與價格兼得的方法。 : : The Chicago Bulls aren't likely to give up both Kirk Hinrich and Joakim Noah. : : The Charlotte Bobcats aren't going to package Raymond Felton and Boris Diaw. : : Rumors of a Miami offer including Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers appear : : to be nothing more than internet chatter. : : For now, Kupchak will explore the options but instead of giving Odom leverage : : via sign and trade, Mitch is more likely to explore minimum options like : : Smith, Drew Gooden (a stretch at the price?) or Brian Skinner. : 公牛不會同時放掉Hinrich and Noah， : 山貓的也不會把Felton跟屌爺一起打包. : 要熱火送出Beasley和Chalmers？想太多。 : 現在，總管要找到選項，除了先簽後換讓LO能有操作空間這一招。 : 總管更有可能尋求Smith，Drew Gooden或是Brian Skinner， : : The end of this story hasn't been written but the desire remains on both : : sides to get something done. : : Unfortunately for Lamar, the Lakers are the team with the spending power. : : Once Dr. Buss moves on, there may be no turning back and Odom could end up : : in a similar position as Trevor Ariza . . . signing for less money in a : : smaller market with a diminished chance at a second title. : 故事還沒結束，但是雙方都有一些事要完成。 : 對LO來說不幸的是，湖人是擴張中的強權。 : 當老闆前進，他們就不會回頭，LO也就會落得Ariza一般的下場-- : 在一個小的市場拿了一份小的合約，然後縮小了第二個冠軍的機會。 : : (You can follow Eric Pincus on Twitter at http://www.Twitter.com/EricPincus.) 我覺得這篇有講到一個重點湖人能拿冠軍的原因是Kobe，Odom有貢獻但不會是主要的原因如果湖人要簽下Odom，原因也只會是希望合約期間能再拿下冠軍那如果不幸的賽季中Kobe缺陣呢？Odom不是那個答案，這在之前已經證明過了當球隊中有Kobe、Gasol現在又來一個Artest，Odom的角色在哪裡? 如果是第六人或是補上Bynum的洞，1000萬可能不是老闆可接受的價錢另外5年合約的問題，給4年我都覺得可怕了，這也證明Odom不是湖人的未來如果球團對Odom的定位是這樣，那老闆就不可能給更高的價錢現在開這種價碼，不管是4年約、5年約，大概都是看在今年這個冠軍盃至於Odom離開會不會比較好，就目前而言是不會沒有比湖人更好的價碼，甚至連合約總額都沒有比較大更重要的一點是，離開Kobe的球隊，一些之前我們看到的問題都會出現那Odom就變成功能型的球員，這樣價碼應該會掉的更低現在的問題應該是該補誰，另外就是萬一Bynum養起來，Gasol會不會遇到一樣的問題我們在處理合約顯然比其他球隊的想法不同這些承接其他球隊合約的狀況搞不好會因為評估方式不同，最後都沒辦法續約 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.45.168.19

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