Re: [外電] some news...

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (洛城浪子)時間13年前 (2012/03/08 11:53), 編輯推噓34(34037)
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國外鄉民在LG po的一篇 Calm down guys, Kobe Bryant leads the league in scoring 冷靜點大夥, Kobe Bryant現在是聯盟得分王欸 I will never understand why people are so amazed at Kobe Bryant leading the league in scoring this season...OBVIOUSLY, when you take 20+ shots you're bound to score 25-30pts. 我真的搞不清楚為什麼大家對於Kobe Bryant暫居得分王這麼驚訝... 很明顯,他每場要出手20+次,然後拿25-30分啊。 Kobe Bryant is one of the greatest players to ever play, but he is also one of the most inefficient players I've ever seen. Kobe Bryant是這個聯盟史上最卓越的球員之一, 但他也是我看過打法效果最低的球員之一。 - i think vanessa is back in the picture 我猜都是vanessa回來的陰謀。 - So trading Pau won't matter. The elephant in the room is Kobe. If he doesn't play like he's your most expensive player, then you're not going to win, PERIOD. 所以交易Pau根本無濟於事,問題的關鍵點是在Kobe身上。 如果他在球場上的表現不像一個全隊最高薪的球員,湖人贏不了球,句號。 - Lakers not winning a title, so MB told Kobe he can have a scoring title. 大概是湖人贏不了總冠軍,所以MB告訴Kobe可以試著拿個得分冠軍。 - I dont give two (bleep) about kobes records if we arent winning 如果湖人輸成這樣,我真的很難對Kobe的紀錄和成就喝采。 - Where the hell would this team be without him? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have even made an account on LG if it wasn't for him. But a couple bad games by the games greatest player and here you are bashing him. 你知道這支球隊沒有Kobe他媽的會怎麼樣嗎? 我可以很確定如果沒有他,你根本不會登入這個論壇。 但就因為一個最棒的球員打了兩場鳥比賽,你們就在這邊罵他狗血淋頭。 - It's so funny. Kobe came off of 3 32+ games on great shooting % and people still bash him. 好好笑,Kobe連續拿了三場32+的比賽加上超高命中率,結果球迷持續罵他。 - Great for individual scoring, not so much for the team. 這樣打對個人得分是益處,但對球隊沒有太大幫助。 - Has he EVER said that his records matter to him? Has he EVER dropped hints that he's monitoring his point total? He shoots 20, 30, 40 times to try to get us WINS, not POINTS. 他有說過這些得分紀錄對他很重要嗎? 他有透露出任何訊息他是在衝他的總得分嗎? 他出手20、30、40次,是想去贏球,而不是得分。 - Glaring weakness on this team isn't Kobe. Its our PG and SF position. 你們該炮的不是Kobe,你們該炮的是控衛和小前鋒。 - When your good your good when your bad your bad. Can you accept 9-30 is bad or is it OK because its Kobe 此一時彼一時。 你到底能不能接受9-30是個非常糟糕的表現,還是就因為是Kobe,就完全ok? - Why would I make an account on LAKERSground just for Kobe? If I wanted to worship Kobe and praise him when he shoots 9-31 I would have joined kb24 forums or Kobeground. I am a Lakers fan first and if our BEST player is shooting us out of the game, I'm going to call him out on it. 為什麼我得在LAKERSground為了Kobe創帳號? 如果Kobe投了9-31我還得崇拜,還得讚揚他,我該去的是kb24論壇,或是Kobeground。 大前提就是,我支持的是湖人隊,如果我們最好的球員是這樣的表現, 我真想請他走人。 - I'm not usually one to harp on Kobe's shots but there's something wrong when Kobe takes 31 shots and Pau and Bynum don't even combine for 20. Kobe出手這麼多不是一天兩天,但絕對有什麼不對勁。 當Kobe投了31次,Pau和Bynum加起來卻不到20次。 - What's your point? He's not open to criticism? He had 3 good games, now he's given back 2 of those games. 所以你想說啥,不能說他? 他前三場打得很好,但他這兩場整個還回來了。 After this game he's below 44 for the year. Look at his history, that's 2004, 2005 territory. 這場比賽之後,他這季的命中率降到44%以下, 看看歷史,這是他在04、05年的成績啊。 - Where the hell are the LAKERS without Kobe?! In the lottery. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Kobe. Lakers would be irrelevant if it weren't for Kobe. Lakers would be at the bottom of the West if it weren't for Kobe. Your precious Bynum and Pau wouldn't be in the playoffs if it weren't for Kobe. 湖人他媽的沒有Kobe?!他們就得去搶樂透。 不是Kobe,你根本不會在這裡,湖人沒有Kobe會變成爛泥扶不上牆。 湖人沒有Kobe絕對在西區墊底。沒有Kobe,Bynum 和 Pau連帶隊進季後賽都是奢望。 - Go ahead and trade him. Goodluck making the playoffs. 交易他啊,運氣好搞不好能有季後賽打喔。 - He had a lousy game. He had a horrible second half. The team played lousy. Bynum was ineffective and turned the ball over way too much. The bench was useless, again. Metta and Fish were useless, again. 他打得很爛,他下半場很悲劇,但整隊都很爛啊。 Bynum的進攻很低效,而且失誤很多次,再一次,板凳根本派不上用場, 再一次的,Metta 和 Fish根本派不上用場,再一次。 - Here's a list of every performance this season where a player attempted at least 20 FGAs. Every single one of them scored over 30 points. 這裡有一份名單,本季每一個單場出手在賽季出手超過20次的球員, 他們每一個人得分都超過30分。 http://0rz.tw/Tf8Vd - Yep, he can't shoot lately... finger maybe? who knows 是的,他最近根本沒準心...或許是手指?誰知道呢? - you're right. we should just cut kobe. it's so simple. 你說的真對,我們要做的就是開除Kobe,這好簡單啊。 - Oh god, did someone bring up "Kobeground"? 喔老天爺,有沒有人真的去創個Kobeground啊? - I hope Kobe and the Lakers get their act together. They need to gain some traction and momentum for the playoffs... 我希望湖人和Kobe能更凝聚在一起。 他們需要得到更多的引導和動力,去打季後賽... - Every game where a player shot 30 attempts this season: 這是本季每一場個人出手超過30次的比賽。 Kobe's would be the 2nd worst performance of the season for anyone shooting that volume. Only Melo did worse. Kobe可說是表現第二糟糕的,只有Melo比他更爛。 http://0rz.tw/gkYV6 -- 外國鄉民說的話,和PTT差不多啊XD -- 洛城 ███◣ 浪子 Los Angeles Boys ◢██◣ █ █ ◥█ φlin798183 ██ ██◤ █ ██◤ █◤◢█ █◣ ◢ ██◤ ◥ ◤ █ █ ◤ ◥█ ███◣ ███◤ ◢██ ◥██ ◢█◤ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.113.68.35

03/08 11:57, , 1F
全世界都一樣的意思嗎XD
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03/08 11:58, , 2F
只有melo比他爛 湖人跟尼克還真是一樣謎
03/08 11:58, 2F

03/08 11:58, , 3F
Melo跟Kobe還是不太一樣,我想Kobe應該還是最糟糕的XD
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03/08 12:00, , 4F
哀...交易快出線吧
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03/08 12:01, , 5F
控衛位置真的不換不行了 沒換我想這季就這樣了
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03/08 12:01, , 6F
推 美國版鄉民抄我們XD~見解大多雷同 哈哈
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03/08 12:03, , 7F
MELO處境比KB尷尬多了 XD
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03/08 12:06, , 8F
兩邊炒的內容幾乎一致XD
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03/08 12:09, , 9F
大同小異啦... 客場這麼補的隊伍都可以輸 難怪大家崩潰XD
03/08 12:09, 9F
※ 編輯: LABOYS 來自: 140.113.68.35 (03/08 12:12)

03/08 12:13, , 10F
外國鄉民蠻有梗的 XD
03/08 12:13, 10F

03/08 12:22, , 11F
我很希望KOBE可以稍微改打法,但是現實看來是個奢求..Orz
03/08 12:22, 11F

03/08 12:24, , 12F
本來以為可以5連勝...他老師的...
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03/08 12:26, , 13F
跟樓上同想法
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03/08 12:26, , 14F
明明是軟的賽程...
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03/08 12:26, , 15F
連輸 活賽 巫師 還能說什麼FUCX
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03/08 12:29, , 16F
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03/08 12:41, , 17F
我寧願去搶樂透也不想看球看得這麼辛苦.....
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03/08 12:43, , 18F
可以把農夫招回幫我們絕殺嗎 XDDDD
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03/08 12:52, , 19F
?控衛球還是在科比手上,有差嗎?
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03/08 12:54, , 20F
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03/08 13:01, , 21F
面對巫師領先21分也可以被逆轉,我們也有拼選秀的資格
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03/08 13:05, , 22F
地球村!!!
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03/08 13:08, , 23F
很多都說是陣容的問題,需要交易才能改進,我想不完全如此
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03/08 13:09, , 24F
雖然控衛問題很大...但遇上這類般的隊伍! ...
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03/08 13:11, , 25F
MB問題也頗大,感覺就壓不注KOBE..讓他予取予求!導致傷害
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03/08 13:12, , 26F
Lakers!!畢竟沒人敢對Kobe多說什麼!
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03/08 13:32, , 27F
如果科比能退居2或3
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03/08 13:34, , 28F
尼克如果不想火冷笑話,而他們高層有一絲絲想交易甜瓜的想
03/08 13:34, 28F

03/08 13:34, , 29F
真的打不開才接管比賽,那我想也沒人會多說什麼!
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03/08 13:35, , 30F
法的話,Mitch操作一下吧,甜瓜來的話,Kobe才會願意給球吧
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03/08 13:37, , 31F
?塔的高效率明明擺在那,還硬要自己來,讓人有得酸!
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03/08 13:38, , 32F
你確定MELO來有球可投嗎XD?
03/08 13:38, 32F

03/08 13:48, , 33F
我覺得是翻譯翻的有趣XD
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03/08 13:49, , 34F
Melo要來肯定會拆塔,但另外一件可以確定的是,Kobe絕對會
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03/08 13:49, , 35F
比現在給雙塔球還更願意給Melo球,USA Team時Kobe就曾說
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03/08 13:50, , 36F
Melo的苦練僅次於他,算是相當難得的肯定.
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03/08 13:53, , 37F
這樣只是從一個人的單打流於兩個人的單打!!其他人都
03/08 13:53, 37F

03/08 13:53, , 38F
不用拿球了!!
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03/08 13:57, , 39F
當然還是要磨合,熱火那兩隻也是陣痛過的,不過也只是個想
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03/08 13:58, , 40F
法,重點是看3/15之前高層有什麼舉動吧.
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03/08 13:59, , 41F
如果kb不調整出手數,那melo的出手數我想和現在雙塔之
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03/08 14:00, , 42F
一差不多,KB是猜不中他的,特別是他腦熱的時候,不過
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03/08 14:00, , 43F
Melo也交易不到啦 別想了XD
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03/08 14:01, , 44F
目前就火箭較有興趣交易GASOL而且,那包裏仍舊沒羅莉
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03/08 14:02, , 45F
scola+martin+Dragic+NY pick for Gasol 不過scola約
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03/08 14:03, , 46F
真的太長,馬汀是能得分,但重點還是有球投嗎?小帥哥
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03/08 14:03, , 47F
到期約,唯一較好的是紐約的順位應該不錯XD
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03/08 14:05, , 48F
這在LG也有正反兩面討論,反正就等吧...剩七天了
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03/08 14:06, , 49F
熱火LD的分球意識原來就不錯
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03/08 14:07, , 50F
如果柯比換帕克跟吉諾布利,可行性?
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03/08 14:08, , 51F
在加個傑佛森,薪資對等嗎?
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03/08 14:09, , 52F
馬刺傻了才跟你這樣換
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03/08 14:09, , 53F
零。 否定因素太多了 1.湖人會放棄神主牌? 2.薪太肥
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03/08 14:09, , 54F
要交易難度非常高 3.KB有NTC 種種因素我想沒人會動他
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03/08 14:10, , 55F
或許該說想動他也沒用 不如想其他較實際XD
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03/08 14:10, , 56F
Melo的分球還比不上Kobe,會多一個更黑洞的點
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03/08 14:11, , 57F
純討論!!不覺得這樣換湖人會超強的嗎?
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03/08 14:11, , 58F
能弄來Melo,會想拿去再換小AI+76人一隻控衛
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03/08 14:12, , 59F
kobe真的換出去怎麼換都強 因為他薪水太高起碼一半先發
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03/08 14:12, , 60F
要換走 這樣換到不強才怪
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03/08 14:13, , 61F
但是他有霸王條款外加神主牌 你太搶他會否決
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03/08 14:13, , 62F
他不否決的話他現在應該是在公牛
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03/08 14:13, , 63F
KB換CP3 or DW湖人就總冠軍了 但這根本就不可能
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03/08 14:14, , 64F
KOBE想要他改變是不可能了 但至少 他要高出手沒關係
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03/08 14:14, , 65F
可不可以不要出手三分-.-
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03/08 14:15, , 66F
那他就不應該這樣打阿!!不然根本是毒瘤~
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03/08 19:00, , 67F
超謎樣的= =
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03/08 19:18, , 68F
滿中肯的
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03/08 20:16, , 69F
可是他這樣打,然後命中率高的時候,又只能稱讚他
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03/08 20:16, , 70F
根本結果論
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09/11 06:00, , 71F
這在LG也有正反兩面討 https://daxiv.com
09/11 06:00, 71F
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