Re: [情報] Harper likely moving to CF; wants Se …

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者時間14年前 (2011/02/15 02:25), 編輯推噓17(17011)
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首先要澄清一下 內野身手可比A-Rod~~捕手可比貓兒,這句話指的是未來性而非現今程度 來源是 worked out at shortstop and third base and has been compared favorably to Alex Rodriguez and Justin Upton - both former No. 1 overall picks. http://major-league-baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/bryce_harper_profile Law projects his ceiling as Joe Mauer. Not bad. http://www.baseballrumormill.com/2009/06/bryce-harper-scouting-report/ 除非我認知有誤,他應該不會只是說,未來只有A-rod跟Mauer的打擊能力 而完全忽略防守 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 他在5-tools裡最被批評的確是fielding ability Fielding: He's a little raw with his technique and fundamentals but has the tools to be an above-average catcher. Some are concerned with a tendency to lunge at pitches, but that might be correctable. He also plays third and the outfield and probably would profile better in right field than he would at third. 他在基本技巧有一些小問題,但還是有捕手平均水準以上的工具 有些球探認為他傳球出手角度奇怪,但這應是可修正的。 他也能站三壘和外野,但他站右外野應該會比他守三壘好。 PS:他傳二壘只需2秒內(1.8~1.9),一般MLB捕手大概 2~~~2.1秒 Range: Even though he's pretty big, he's got flexibility in his lower half. That allows him to get down low and move very well laterally. 即使他相當大隻,他下半身還是很有靈活性 這夠讓他蹲低而且有非常好的橫向移動 來源:http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7222475 以下這個是5-tools的影片給各位參考一下,老實說我也覺得他出手角度跟一般球員不同 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7fsl3_SAU
============================================================================== 另外還有一篇完全跟baseball america唱反調的球探報告,昨天掃網站的時候看到的 提到這傢伙是over rated,甚至太早選了 給他的PROSPECT分數也很低,節錄一段 GRADES (Present/Future): Hit 50/50 Power 50/60 Arm 60/60 Field 30/50 Run 50/50 Overall Future Potential: 54 What the Grades Mean: 1.70-80. These are star prospects 2.55-69. These are above-average prospects who project to be quality starters on major league teams. 3.53-54. These are everyday prospects. These are solid starters that may be offensive-oriented players. 作者是John Klima,認為他將來大概只是個固定先發的選手 我是不知道他是什麼來頭,跟BA評價他是Baseball's Lebron,60年來最強少年差很多 http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/04/08/bryce-harper-report ============================================================================== 最後回歸一下主題,在下是覺得如有All-star內野和捕手的潛力何必轉外野 除了原文:學習如何當一個好捕手所需的時間,太久了 和板友waitla:讓他轉3B/OF只是因為這樣可以提早上major 還看到另外一篇捕手膝蓋所承受壓力非常大,容易受傷 像Piazza,Posada,Mauer這種捕手仍擁有打擊實力的天才沒幾個 他提出一個看法,就是生涯最多打席數排前10位的沒任何捕手 且前三名打者都是外野手 Career Leaders & Records for At Bats Rank Player At Bats Bats POS 1. Pete Rose 14053 B OF 2. Hank Aaron+ 12364 R OF 3. Carl Yastrzemski+ 11988 L OF 4. Cal Ripken+ 11551 R SS/3B 5. Ty Cobb+ 11434 L OF 6. Eddie Murray+ 11336 B 1B 7. Robin Yount+ 11008 R SS/OF 8. Dave Winfield+ 11003 R OF 9. Stan Musial+ 10972 L OF/1B 10. Rickey Henderson+ 10961 R OF 外野手棒球生涯很長的比比皆是 而Ripken這種守SS還不會受傷又可以保持世界記錄的強者太少見了 不知道Harper的身體強度在哪,卻可知國民保護他的心態一覽無遺 但有沒有能力練內野或捕手?根據球探報告應該有的 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.60.223.108

02/15 02:44, , 1F
推Cal Ripken
02/15 02:44, 1F

02/15 03:31, , 2F
傳球出手角度的確怪怪的 很容易受傷的感覺
02/15 03:31, 2F

02/15 04:00, , 3F
有點像側傳~出手點有時甚至變下肩...
02/15 04:00, 3F

02/15 05:08, , 4F
5-tool那個影片1:10揮得非常漂亮啊!不過那是打紅中就是了
02/15 05:08, 4F

02/15 06:16, , 5F
"might be correctable"意思是 "可以修正的"
02/15 06:16, 5F
感謝

02/15 09:43, , 6F
推鐵人 小 瑞普肯
02/15 09:43, 6F

02/15 09:56, , 7F
....投球 96 mile
02/15 09:56, 7F

02/15 10:09, , 8F
期待!!!
02/15 10:09, 8F

02/15 10:15, , 9F
投手投球有W肩線 XD
02/15 10:15, 9F

02/15 10:43, , 10F
將Harper比作Lebron有點過頭,單比打擊技巧他還略輸同年齡
02/15 10:43, 10F

02/15 10:45, , 11F
的A-Rod,轉外野考量還是在C、3B已經有人卡位取代不易,趁
02/15 10:45, 11F

02/15 10:46, , 12F
現在年輕轉到OF比較容易成功
02/15 10:46, 12F
Harper是高中最佳棒球員,Lebron是高中最佳籃球員應該是有點資格放在一起 很久以前我在看球探報告就懷疑他該不會是像日本媒體喜歡冠XX二世 那種捧超高的媒體寵兒,後來打出鳥蛋成績的假假 直到他在秋季聯盟打出不輸3A的數字後我才不質疑球探報告

02/15 11:01, , 13F
有 18 year 的 a-rod 成績嗎 查不到說
02/15 11:01, 13F

02/15 12:00, , 14F
BA對Anthony Rendon的評價還比他高,不過是在他受傷之前..
02/15 12:00, 14F

02/15 12:02, , 15F
在AAA只有.311.359.588而已 ^^
02/15 12:02, 15F

02/15 12:33, , 16F
內野身手,一般聽起來似乎單純指防守
02/15 12:33, 16F

02/15 13:22, , 17F
中職曾經有個捕手出手點也不高 不過他光靠阻殺就夠了..
02/15 13:22, 17F

02/15 13:23, , 18F
有人就是天生神力側傳還不會受傷
02/15 13:23, 18F

02/15 20:07, , 19F
96MPH..... 我覺得國民投手缺人他還可以加入輪值
02/15 20:07, 19F

02/15 21:53, , 20F
推回來
02/15 21:53, 20F

02/15 22:22, , 21F
A-Rod 18歲那年從A-AA-AAA一路殺上去該年就上MLB
02/15 22:22, 21F

02/15 22:44, , 22F
天才打擊捕手居然就這樣跳過PUDGE...
02/15 22:44, 22F
故意的XD~~而且他也不算打擊類型的捕手 ~~ 如果硬要排他等級,我會把他往天才的樓上放(神級?)

02/16 12:35, , 23F
"Baseball's LeBron" 不是BA說的, 是運動畫刊
02/16 12:35, 23F

02/16 12:36, , 24F
Callis 也曾經排過20年來最佳選秀新人, Harper不在前10
02/16 12:36, 24F

02/16 12:40, , 25F
也說以兩人離開高中時的評價來講(Mauer 18, Harper 16)
02/16 12:40, 25F

02/16 12:40, , 26F
"Mauer was the better prospect"
02/16 12:40, 26F

02/16 12:41, , 27F
"Mauer was a better hitter, defender, athlete"
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02/16 12:43, , 28F
Harper 有優勢的只有 Power
02/16 12:43, 28F
B大,可以發一篇稍微聊一下球探“本身”文章的評價嗎 老實講我實在不知道哪些球探是權威等級的,有時看看還挺亂的,不知信誰好 像Frankie Piliere 說他是百大新秀裡面排第七的 http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2011/02/09/baseballs-top-100-prospects-of-2011/ ※ 編輯: poplc 來自: 61.60.223.108 (02/16 20:01)
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