[外電] Braves' staff is better than Phillies'

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者時間15年前 (2011/05/09 13:24), 編輯推噓31(31017)
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Braves' staff is better than Phillies' 勇士投手比費城猛 Atlanta has far more depth behind its big arms than Philadelphia does 跟費城神臂比,亞特蘭大鐵臂有超乎想像的猛度 By Eno Sarris(FanGraphs) It might have been the biggest story of the offseason: The Philadelphia Phillies collected four arms that collectively would challenge the best rotations in the history of the game. Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Roy Oswalt and Cole Hamels would bring them to the promised land, or so the story went. 之前休季時最大條的新聞就是:費城收集四條手臂,堪稱挑戰史上最佳先發輪值的神臂, 內容大概是這樣的:Roy Halladay,Cliff Lee,Roy Oswalt和Cole Hamels會帶他們到應 許之地。 When you look at the Phillies, it appears that they are on their way to accomplishing the mission. The team is in first place and the Big Four are firing on all cylinders. They've given up the fewest runs in the major leagues as a staff, so perhaps the case is closed: Philadelphia's rotation is the best in baseball. Except there is a team -- in their own division, no less -- that might not be so impressed, mostly because they've got an impressive rotation of their own. 當你看費城時,他們總是以自己的方式來完成任務。這支隊伍目前第一,四天王也是火力 全開,也是大聯盟各隊輪值裡失分最少的一群投手,那麼也許本案結束,費城最強。 除了一隊例外,居然在有費城人的國聯東區,對於勇士來說費城的輪值也沒什麼特別的, 主因是他們自己的輪值也是超強。 The Atlanta Braves have practically pitched the Phillies to a standstill. Philadelphia's starting rotation has a 3.14 ERA; the Braves' hurlers stand at 2.88. Their underlying statistics so far are equally impressive, even if the names Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, Derek Lowe and Jair Jurrjens don't quite carry the same weight. These rotations are closer in quality than we thought. 實際上勇士投手群已經投到讓費城打線哭哭了。費城先發輪值有3.14的優秀防禦率,而勇 士全隊投手防禦率更低到2.88。到目前為止,這神鬼數字跟費城輪值一樣搶眼。 即便Tim Hudson,Tommy Hanson,Derek Lowe和Jair Jurrjens這些名字跟四天王比起來沒 啥份量,但事實就是這票先發比我們想的還優質多了。 http://0rz.tw/y3lAq -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.60.223.108

05/09 13:27, , 1F
便宜也會有好貨
05/09 13:27, 1F

05/09 13:28, , 2F
勇士過兩年還有Mike Minor還有Julio Teheran等著呢..(茶)
05/09 13:28, 2F

05/09 13:33, , 3F
重點是斧頭幫牛棚也比費城穩
05/09 13:33, 3F

05/09 13:34, , 4F
Minor不是進過輪值了?
05/09 13:34, 4F

05/09 13:35, , 5F
Go Go Braves~!!!
05/09 13:35, 5F

05/09 13:36, , 6F
Tim Hudson也是Ace啊
05/09 13:36, 6F

05/09 13:36, , 7F
運動家:
05/09 13:36, 7F

05/09 13:37, , 8F
但我不覺得打完整季還會是這樣的數據,Lower跟Jurrjens都
05/09 13:37, 8F

05/09 13:38, , 9F
已經超過他們實力應有的數據,之後應該會修正一些才是
05/09 13:38, 9F

05/09 13:38, , 10F
Lowe
05/09 13:38, 10F

05/09 13:39, , 11F
Braves很威 :P
05/09 13:39, 11F

05/09 13:40, , 12F
Hudson 絕對是 Ace
05/09 13:40, 12F

05/09 13:41, , 13F
美國兄弟象 (一口一)/喔~喔喔~喔喔~喔喔 爪爪
05/09 13:41, 13F

05/09 13:44, , 14F
講斧頭是美國兄弟象根本就是瞎扯 別把棒球版那套拿來
05/09 13:44, 14F

05/09 13:45, , 15F
Jurrjens還蠻強的阿
05/09 13:45, 15F

05/09 13:45, , 16F
同意樓上,還有哈神絕對ace無誤
05/09 13:45, 16F

05/09 13:47, , 17F
Brandon Beachy ERA2.98 42.1IP 45K 被忽略了.....
05/09 13:47, 17F

05/09 13:51, , 18F
對齁 還有樓上這隻XD
05/09 13:51, 18F

05/09 13:53, , 19F
斧頭幫一直很強 不過常常差臨門一腳
05/09 13:53, 19F

05/09 13:56, , 20F
不過Beachy還很菜 不像其他幾個都是有投出幾年實績的 需
05/09 13:56, 20F

05/09 13:57, , 21F
要再觀察
05/09 13:57, 21F

05/09 14:10, , 22F
現在最威的是綠帽輪值...ERA 2.69
05/09 14:10, 22F

05/09 14:13, , 23F
搞錯了...不是輪值 是全隊防禦率
05/09 14:13, 23F

05/09 14:33, , 24F
如果要評價全隊的投手的話,用WAR應該比較好一點
05/09 14:33, 24F

05/09 14:33, , 25F
因為防禦率跟防守與球場特性有關
05/09 14:33, 25F

05/09 14:36, , 26F
not impress那段,是指對於勇士來說費城的輪值也沒什麼特
05/09 14:36, 26F

05/09 14:36, , 27F
別的,主因是他們自己的輪值也是超強
05/09 14:36, 27F
tks,出門前看到你的推文 ※ 編輯: poplc 來自: 61.60.223.108 (05/09 15:00)

05/09 15:00, , 28F
推Beachy 令人眼睛一亮!
05/09 15:00, 28F

05/09 15:22, , 29F
斧頭的打線很迷樣XXX
05/09 15:22, 29F

05/09 15:55, , 30F
投手王國無誤
05/09 15:55, 30F

05/09 16:04, , 31F
期待勇士的新秀投手們!!
05/09 16:04, 31F

05/09 16:05, , 32F
勇士贏在牛棚吧, EOF+Venters+Kimbrel 耐操又好用
05/09 16:05, 32F

05/09 16:05, , 33F
費人端得出兩支夠穩的RP嗎?
05/09 16:05, 33F

05/09 16:05, , 34F
雖然它們常常也不需要就是了
05/09 16:05, 34F

05/09 16:30, , 35F
Ryan madson+Antonio Bastardo?
05/09 16:30, 35F

05/09 16:41, , 36F
樓上兩支也很棒,但是真的Venters+Kimbrel更威
05/09 16:41, 36F

05/09 17:15, , 37F
O'Flaherty也不錯
05/09 17:15, 37F

05/09 18:58, , 38F
還是烏鴉嘴一下 後面兩條手臂ERA應該還是會上修
05/09 18:58, 38F

05/09 19:05, , 39F
打線也很猛...
05/09 19:05, 39F

05/09 19:32, , 40F
推勇士投手 真的很猛
05/09 19:32, 40F

05/09 20:17, , 41F
Phillies:我們需要牛棚嗎?! XD
05/09 20:17, 41F

05/09 20:18, , 42F
Jurrjens之前就有被媒體提過資質不錯
05/09 20:18, 42F

05/09 20:21, , 43F
Beachy真的不錯!
05/09 20:21, 43F

05/09 22:29, , 44F
JJJ是速球版的老麥耶 準的哩
05/09 22:29, 44F

05/09 23:39, , 45F
別忘了勇士在90年代可是投手王國 一直到本世紀初期都是
05/09 23:39, 45F

05/10 00:00, , 46F
勇士!!!!!!
05/10 00:00, 46F

05/10 00:25, , 47F
還有美人 Minor Teheran Vizcaino 川上(?) SP快滿出來了
05/10 00:25, 47F

05/10 00:39, , 48F
綠帽也很會養投手...
05/10 00:39, 48F
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