Fw: [爆料] 老馬談現在的大前鋒已回收

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※ [本文轉錄自 UTAH-JAZZ 看板 #1J0igMDM ] 作者: monmo (Gentleman monmo) 站內: UTAH-JAZZ 標題: [爆料] 老馬談現在的大前鋒 時間: Tue Feb 18 10:51:00 2014 Karl Malone admires the new wave and style of power forwards NEW ORLEANS -- Players who have been there and done that in the NBA tend to be harder on the up and coming stars of the NBA. When you've had the spotlight on yourself for so many years and performed feats that have rarely been seen at the highest level of competition, it's hard to give younger players their due before they've accomplished the same things you did in your career. Whether it's making players earn their stripes or almost a rookie star hazing of sorts, players like Shaquille O'Neal and Charles Barkley have been critical of today's stars when analyzing their games in studio post-game shows. O'Neal has wanted much more out of Dwight Howard's game in his three different NBA stops, almost pleading for him to become a dominant big man of the past. Barkley has wanted to see more toughness, back-to-the-basket play, and old school physicality from Los Angeles Clippers' star Blake Griffin. As we get ready for the All-Star Game in New Orleans Sunday night, one Hall of Fame player seems content and excited about the big men of today. As Karl Malone held court during his media availability on Friday afternoon, he was asked about power forwards like Griffin and LaMarcus Aldridge of the Portland Trail Blazers. Malone didn't seem interested in critiquing the power forwards of today, instead opting to appreciate the new style of attacking. "I love his game," Malone said about Aldridge. "Big guys, forwards don't do this. I think every power forward should turn and face the basket, not [attack] with their back to the basket. Those guys do it. When you do that, that's your midrange game right there. When you do that, the person playing you, he's scared to death, by the way. You see some guys keep their back to the basket but I love these guys, how they turn and face." In Malone's 19 years in the NBA, he had an incredibly versatile attack. You don't get to 36,928 career points (second all-time) without being able to switch up your attack. Malone could take you into the post and score with his strength and brute force. He would also face up against the defender and either drive in for a shot in the paint or wait for you to relax as a defender before hitting you with a midrange jumper. In a way, he was ahead of his time, adapting to the concept of spacing with shooting. He wasn't backing up behind the 3-point line and bridging the gap from Kevin McHale to Steve Novak, but he was making big, slow defenders uncomfortable by showing deadly accuracy from 15 feet out. Malone sees the value in giving yourself the triple threat option against big men back then and in today's game. In terms of a balance between attacking the basket and shooting a jumper, there may not be a better offensive force out of the face-up than Griffin right now. The Clippers' star has raised his game yet to another level this season, keeping the team going when Chris Paul was absent with a separated shoulder. He's a 39.2 percent shooter from midrange, which isn't legendary by any means but it makes the defender uncomfortable enough to allow Blake to drive to the basket and get the most efficient shot in basketball: a dunk. Although with different athletic capabilities in their youth, Malone sees a lot of himself in Blake's game. “Without the jumping part, I'll say Blake Griffin," Malone said when asked which player from this era is most like himself. "I like Blake. I just like him. I like all the power forwards but I just like Blake. I like the way he plays.” Malone has been watching Griffin for quite some time, well before the four-time All-Star made it to the NBA. Malone's son was a big fan of the Oklahoma Sooners, even attending a football camp there at Griffin's alma mater. Griffin was becoming a star at Oklahoma, roughly 35 miles away from where he attended Oklahoma Christian School for high school. Malone never made a point to interact with Griffin but he took notice of his game and the way he plays. He instantly started becoming a fan. "I just loved watching him play, how hard he played, and how physical he plays," Malone raved. "There's like 10 or 12 guys that if they're playing on TV, I'll watch and see him. When he comes off the floor, I change it and go back. I just like the way he plays.” He's pleaded on television for Griffin to get mad one time and react to some of the hard fouls or cheap shots he may take over the course of the basketball game. Malone even offered to pay Griffin's fine if he does it. Griffin refuses to take him up on that offer, instead opting for trying to keep his mouth shut and continuing to play the game. It's one of the differences that Malone sees in Griffin and appears to respect quite a bit, even if he doesn't always agree with it. “Number one I never jumped like that," Malone said. "I jumped when I had to. I just like his demeanor. I would like to see him get mad one time but me, it didn't take me too much to get me riled up. Blake is one of those guys that he just plays the game, no matter what.” As Griffin sets to take flight during his fourth All-Star Game, third straight as a starter, Malone continues to admire not just his game but all of the All-Star power forwards and their multi-faceted way of attacking a defender. "I would like to see [facing the basket] more," Malone said. "Like I said earlier, especially when you have talent and the skill set that Blake has, Kevin Love, Aldridge, and those guys, when you turn and face your opponent, they're scared to death. When [Griffin] can get on top of the basket, I would like to see him do that more than with his back to the basket. I would never pay to see anybody play but I will go see him play if we're in the same area. The power forwards we have right now, they're taking it to another level and I love watching them.” 大意:(若有誤還請賜教) 大歐跟老巴對新世代球員多所批判 大歐要魔獸主宰力一點 老巴要球員硬一點 不過老馬選擇了給予像阿基基這樣的球員一些肯定 他讚美了新世代PF面框的方式 認為能在中距離有威脅性是很棒的事情 他也不完全反對背框 但他享受的是他們轉為面框攻擊的時刻 簡單說他認為現代PF拉遠射程 讓防守者畏懼增加防守難度 (尤其是那些比較慢跟不出來的防守者 會怕被投外線) 而他自己生涯就是靠著三脅 可說是超越當時他時代的類型 他尤其提到了他對白馬龍桑原BG的喜愛 一開始是因為他兒子學校地緣關係的淵源 但後來他成了大粉絲 可說是現在聯盟最愛的PF(但他們沒啥淵源) 也是他口中聯盟中總有10~12個他會想特別為他看球的球員之一 他提到了白馬龍跟他的相似性 雖然白馬龍現在外線命中率不是很高 但他可以藉此讓對方忌憚 然後殺進去灌籃 這份喜愛也是他為啥之前說願意幫他付罰單的原因 雖然BG沒有接受馬龍的建議被犯規還是毫無動靜 就是個桑原 馬龍也不完全認同他的作法 但他仍選擇尊重BG 即使他說他真的很想看BG在場上震怒一次 最後他再次列舉了像白馬龍 阿基基還有愛神這種能投射的球員 尤其再說了他有多愛白馬龍 他也認為這是另外一個新層級的PF 他喜歡這種改變 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.128.141.48 ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: monmo (220.128.141.48), 時間: 02/18/2014 10:51:29 ※ 編輯: monmo 來自: 220.128.141.48 (02/18 10:51)

02/18 10:54, , 1F
老馬的跳投好像都是擋拆後進行,很少看他面框拔幹
02/18 10:54, 1F

02/18 10:55, , 2F
有阿.經典的對上公牛那兩年.他對到小蟲一對一就是直
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02/18 10:56, , 3F
BG很不錯阿 雖然小聰明多了點 但看好成為新代PF巨星
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02/18 10:56, , 4F
接面框投的.運用擋拆中投的機會反而較少
02/18 10:56, 4F

02/18 11:03, , 5F
現在的PF 一點都不power了
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02/18 11:04, , 6F
老馬的中距離也是個Bug的存在呀
02/18 11:04, 6F

02/18 11:06, , 7F
晚節不保的爵士叛徒罷
02/18 11:06, 7F

02/18 11:09, , 8F
連馬龍都想看BG幹拐XD
02/18 11:09, 8F

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02/18 11:11, , 10F
樓上悲憤
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02/18 11:13, , 11F
明星賽三人組隊投籃的競賽老馬一直放槍就被TNT主播笑
02/18 11:13, 11F

02/18 11:13, , 12F
某r是哪一格跟哪一格中間生出來的一日阿爵迷?
02/18 11:13, 12F

02/18 11:13, , 13F
說要跟KD做個擋拆再投啊
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02/18 11:14, , 15F
老馬的中距離什麼時候都能投阿....
02/18 11:14, 15F

02/18 11:14, , 16F
的中投沒有運用擋拆也是擋不住.而且那個年代打球有夠
02/18 11:14, 16F

02/18 11:14, , 17F
悍.我很慶幸也感謝學生時代有跟到那些年~
02/18 11:14, 17F

02/18 11:15, , 18F
無敵pick&pop
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02/18 11:18, , 19F
老馬中距離太穩了
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02/18 11:25, , 20F
沒錯。太穩了
02/18 11:25, 20F

02/18 11:30, , 21F
學生時代超討厭老馬 愛甩霸王肘 打球動作又醜又笨拙
02/18 11:30, 21F

02/18 11:30, , 22F
常常把我喜歡的球星撞得東倒西歪 後來又老愛投中距離
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02/18 11:31, , 23F
偏偏又準到靠北 馬的這麼壯不衝進去是投個屁中距離
02/18 11:31, 23F

02/18 11:31, , 24F
那時看了頗賭爛,結果退休後開始懷念了..尤其現在一堆
02/18 11:31, 24F

02/18 11:32, , 25F
假摔娘砲看了真噁.
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02/18 11:32, , 26F
老馬打球哪裡笨拙了XDDD
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02/18 11:33, , 27F
我覺得動作是滿醜的阿 就沒有優雅的感覺 不覺得嗎= =
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02/18 11:37, , 28F
沒有人覺得老馬的上臂很長嗎?因為太長了...
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02/18 11:37, , 29F
所以他互球的動作,手肘都在很外面 XD
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02/18 11:38, , 30F
BG果然接班老馬 CP3接班老史
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02/18 11:40, , 31F
老馬太大隻,視覺上會覺得有點笨拙,事實上當然不是
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02/18 11:41, , 32F
我覺得那麼大隻還那麼快根本就很靈巧阿哈哈
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02/18 11:43, , 33F
低位強,中距離又準
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02/18 11:43, , 34F
肌肉太大影響投籃 老馬表示:
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02/18 11:43, , 35F
優雅確實是算不上啦 ..不過很有樸實感就是了
02/18 11:43, 35F

02/18 11:45, , 36F
老馬也是一兩招吃天下的代表人物 
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02/18 11:52, , 37F
看到白馬龍一直想到西遊記…
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02/18 12:00, , 38F
爵士那些年三人組的中距離真的是準到歪掉,一拿到球
02/18 12:00, 38F

02/18 12:07, , 39F
郵差馬龍本身的背框技巧就很強(外加 身材+小拋投)
02/18 12:07, 39F

02/18 12:08, , 40F
加上後期他練起來的中距離跳投當年殺翻各隊前鋒
02/18 12:08, 40F

02/18 12:10, , 41F
雖然有身材(100%肌肉棒子)但鮮少完全靠身材進攻...
02/18 12:10, 41F

02/18 12:11, , 42F
但在防守的時候+肌肉霸王肘....羅德曼也真猛
02/18 12:11, 42F

02/18 12:12, , 43F
郵差會喜歡這型不意外,因為郵差的背框單打技能其實
02/18 12:12, 43F

02/18 12:12, , 44F
不怎麼樣,跟Howard一樣都用身材硬擠得比較多..
02/18 12:12, 44F

02/18 12:13, , 45F
反而是面框投籃準度是遠高於其他PF..
02/18 12:13, 45F

02/18 12:16, , 46F
效率高就好,他要到位置就是兩分,怪 PF 用身體要位
02/18 12:16, 46F

02/18 12:16, , 47F
,就跟講後衛靠速度切入一樣奇怪。
02/18 12:16, 47F

02/18 12:21, , 48F
怎麼會? 他當年背框翻身跳投跟MJ都是無解程度好嗎
02/18 12:21, 48F

02/18 12:22, , 49F
不要把背框進攻侷限的這麼狹隘 用身材也要看如何用
02/18 12:22, 49F

02/18 12:25, , 50F
拿Howard的背框技術來比郵差...囧。
02/18 12:25, 50F

02/18 12:37, , 51F
Howard的背框要是有郵差的層級 跟現在絕對不同檔次
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02/18 12:41, , 52F
2K14把馬龍搞得太瘦了對此我很不滿
02/18 12:41, 52F

02/18 12:41, , 53F
老馬光一個翻身跳投就高DH幾個等級了...
02/18 12:41, 53F

02/18 12:45, , 54F
老馬比較養生吧 老巴更悍也付出提早退休的代價
02/18 12:45, 54F

02/18 12:46, , 55F
Malong 是後期中距離練出來才比較養身,一開始根本是
02/18 12:46, 55F

02/18 12:47, , 56F
大卡車硬碾的。
02/18 12:47, 56F

02/18 12:50, , 57F
防守O'neal以不被灌籃為目標,對位馬龍以不受傷為目標
02/18 12:50, 57F

02/18 13:08, , 58F
跟Howard一樣都用身材硬擠得???? W 是那個次元的馬龍
02/18 13:08, 58F

02/18 13:13, , 59F
老馬比起魔獸更好的是finish的手感 碰撞後把握性超高
02/18 13:13, 59F

02/18 13:29, , 60F
W是說在還沒進nba前的馬龍嗎?
02/18 13:29, 60F

02/18 13:37, , 61F
郵差背框猛得很 哪裡不怎麼樣?
02/18 13:37, 61F

02/18 13:52, , 62F
以前看老馬真的很納悶 明明肌肉這麼大顆的 ...
02/18 13:52, 62F

02/18 13:52, , 63F
怎麼有辦法中距離這麼準...
02/18 13:52, 63F

02/18 13:56, , 64F
老馬那個腳步很屌好嗎 = =
02/18 13:56, 64F

02/18 13:58, , 65F
馬龍在籃框左邊的背框轉身切入是無解 擋不住
02/18 13:58, 65F

02/18 13:59, , 66F
記得老馬臂展不長
02/18 13:59, 66F

02/18 14:02, , 67F
Malone當然不愛背框阿 因為容易被抄截然後絕殺!?
02/18 14:02, 67F

02/18 14:06, , 68F
退休前去抱大腿...然後又沒撈到冠軍戒指
02/18 14:06, 68F

02/18 14:36, , 69F
比巔峰期抱大腿要來的強哦!
02/18 14:36, 69F

02/18 14:40, , 70F
說的應該是來台灣打瓊斯盃時期的馬龍吧,一定是這樣
02/18 14:40, 70F

02/18 14:41, , 71F
。Howard是有進步,籃下有小轉身(雖然常轉進包夾裡)
02/18 14:41, 71F

02/18 14:44, , 72F
,左邊有翻身勾手的擦板,但要說其背框技術跟大中鋒
02/18 14:44, 72F

02/18 14:44, , 73F
、大前鋒時代的馬龍比還太早了些。
02/18 14:44, 73F

02/18 15:39, , 74F
老馬剛進NBA可是打SF的,所以他跟老巴在大前鋒中的上
02/18 15:39, 74F

02/18 15:39, , 75F
籃攻擊都是史詩級的
02/18 15:39, 75F

02/18 15:49, , 76F
年輕馬龍很飛阿
02/18 15:49, 76F

02/18 16:41, , 77F
就是因為常飛進去把球塞進籃框,才得郵差馬龍之綽號
02/18 16:41, 77F

02/18 16:50, , 78F
看完影片覺得馬龍太屌了...
02/18 16:50, 78F

02/18 17:55, , 79F
stockton to malone!
02/18 17:55, 79F

02/18 18:05, , 80F
馬龍技巧不華麗是真的 不過很細膩 打公牛看他狂吃
02/18 18:05, 80F

02/18 18:06, , 81F
隆利 禁區想得到的招大概全吃過了
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02/18 18:08, , 82F
\囧>
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02/18 18:08, , 84F
ㄑ\ 帥哥灌籃
02/18 18:08, 84F

02/18 18:09, , 85F
圖很讚XDDD
02/18 18:09, 85F

02/18 18:14, , 86F
推帥哥灌籃!!!!
02/18 18:14, 86F

02/18 18:34, , 87F
推帥哥灌籃~
02/18 18:34, 87F

02/18 18:41, , 88F
看了影片開始懷念邪惡爵士和玄冥二老惹
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02/18 20:04, , 89F
老馬有帥哥上籃耶
02/18 20:04, 89F

02/18 20:05, , 90F
說錯 是帥哥灌籃啦XDD
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02/18 21:10, , 91F
帥哥灌籃!!!
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