Re: [討論] 溜馬和卡萊爾對抗聯盟的日子

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原本寫原文的時候是中英一起寫, 所以順手把英文版發的溜馬 FB 群去, https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18sDSoLopN/ 引起了蠻多共鳴的.. 但是有一個外國活塞迷卻回了我, 他的文章也寫得很好所以我幫他貼了上來, 順便翻譯.. 因為這篇文看了也讓我感觸良多... - - -以下是外國活塞迷看了我之前奧本山宮殿文章的回文 - - November 19th was circled on my calendar the day the 2004-05 schedule was released. My boss (I worked as a meat clerk at Meijer) wouldn't let me off shift because he hated me. Or I would've been there. 2004-05 賽季賽程一公布，我立刻把 11 月 19 日圈起來。我在 Meijer 當肉品部員工，主管因為討厭我，不讓我請假。不然我肯定會去現場。 "These are our rivals!" I had declared. 我那時就說：「這是我們的死對頭！」 (譯者註 : Meijer 是美國中西部的平價連鎖超市，文中作者是高中/大學生時在此打工的肉品部店員，強調「無法請假看比賽」的青春遺憾。) I was Pissed. Writing for a Pistons site at the time, an article entitled "From a Pist Pistons Fan," was posted in the early morning hours of November 20th. 我真的很氣。我當時幫一個活塞網站寫文章，結果在 11 月 20 日凌晨，我就寫了一篇叫〈一個氣到爆的活塞迷〉的文章發表出來。 A professional comedian had told us, and America, "we'll burn our city to the ground" should we win a title. 一位脫口秀演員跟我們—也跟全美觀眾說：「如果我們拿冠軍，我們會把城市整個燒掉。」 (譯者註: 當時全美都在嘲諷底特律奪冠後街頭暴動的樣子, 全國媒體都很瞧不起這個走向沒落的貧窮汽車城市) A cup at a player. A quarter at Allen Iverson's head in the playoffs... The nerves of defending your title...as the seconds ticked off the clock in Game 7 of the 2005 NBA Finals--"At least we don't have to talk about the brawl on a Championship Video meant for kids." 有人朝球員丟杯子；有人在季後賽往 Allen Iverson 頭上砸硬幣……當你在捍衛冠軍的壓力下，2005 年總決 Game 7 倒數那一刻，大家心裡想的是：「至少我們不用在給小孩看的冠軍影片裡談那場鬥毆了。」 (譯者註: 因為那年溜馬跟活塞幹了架, 而馬刺最後贏了總冠軍, 至少當年紀錄片裡總冠軍紀錄片不會出現幹架的片段) 2004-05, at the height of their power, was bitter. And, that has always made me angry. 2004-05 是我們巔峰的一年，卻也是最苦澀的一年。這讓我至今仍感憤怒。 I've been a lifelong Pistons fan. I grew up in the shadow of the "Bad Boys," watching, confused, them win the title in 1990. 我是一輩子的活塞迷。我在「壞孩子軍團」的光環下長大，當他們 1990 奪冠時，我還看得一頭霧水。 Briefed by my Uncles and father, I was geared up in 1990-91, at ripe age of 7, to watch the hometown team win...only to have years and years of futility at the hands of our old rivals, the Chicago Bulls. 聽著叔叔和老爸講那些輝煌歷史，7 歲的我滿心期待家鄉球隊再奪冠，結果迎來的是被老對手公牛打敗的一連串失望歲月。 The teal Pistons couldn't execute. With :30 seconds left in overtime, I watched them drop a Game to Philadelphia with a 5-point lead. 那支穿著水藍球衣的活塞隊根本不成氣候。有次延長賽剩 30 秒還領先 5 分，我親眼看著他們把勝利拱手讓給費城。 The opposing team's best players often took the night off until the 4th Quarter...and would win by 10-18 points by pulling away in the last quarter because the Pistons were wildly inconsistent down the stretch of games. 對手的主力常常前三節像在散步，第四節才發力，輕鬆拉開比分贏個 10 到 18 分，因為我們總是在關鍵時刻崩盤。 Enter Joe Dumars as President of Basketball Operations. 這時 Joe Dumars 上任，接掌籃球事務總裁。 Bill Davidson, the Pistons late-Owner, celebrated the 1989 and 1990 titles with a 1-hour long ceremony, a Championship music video, a video retrospective for season ticket holders, and nights with each individual player, on their 10th Anniversaries--and retired Joe Dumars with everything from an Aretha Franklin performance to the naming of the Sportsmanship Award after him--was criticized for "being content parading around his best players from the Bad Boys, never putting the resources together for another title run." 已故的活塞老闆 Bill Davidson 在 1989 和 1990 奪冠後辦了整整一小時的慶祝儀式，拍了冠軍 MV、製作紀念影片給季票球迷，甚至為每個球員辦了 10 週年晚宴。退休時還請來 Aretha Franklin 演唱，甚至以他的名字命名 NBA 運動精神獎。他因此被批評為只沉浸在過去的壞孩子榮光中，從未真正投入資源再拚一次冠軍。 (譯者註: 90 年代的活塞老闆，對球隊與球員極其尊重，例如幫球員辦十週年榮典會、找 Aretha Franklin 獻唱、親自飛去拜託教練返隊。他其實也很想要幫活塞重返榮耀, 但很多人卻批評他指沉浸在往日的壞孩子榮光當中) Valued at 178 million dollars the day Dumars took over, he was commissioned with building a team that not only one, but restored the once-proud building from 7,500 empty seats at the Palace of Auburn Hills for a playoff game. 當 Dumars 接掌球隊時，活塞的市值只有 1.78 億美元，甚至連季後賽主場都會有 7,500 個空位。他的任務是：不只要贏球，還要重建這支球隊的驕傲。 The truth was, Bill was in his late-70s, Jack McCloskey fought in World War II, and Chuck Daly was his contemporary. These guys were still alive, and he wanted the story to be told for future generations; the culture they created. 其實，Bill 當時已七十多歲，Jack McCloskey 曾打過二戰，Chuck Daly 也跟他同輩。這些人仍在世，他希望他們的故事能被好好傳承下去，包含他們建立的那份文化。 Isiah Thomas had his final celebration as a Piston--his election into the Hall, amid rumors he might be the Pistons next Coach. He'd take over for Larry Bird and the defending Conference Champions Pacers. Isiah Thomas 最後一次以活塞球員身分慶祝，是他入選名人堂那年，還傳出他可能回鍋執教。但他最後是接替 Larry Bird，成為溜馬這支衛冕東區冠軍球隊的總教練。 Grant Hill bolted to Orlando. Ben Wallace and Chucky Atkins followed in a sign-and-trade as all three players were free agents. Jalen Rose even turned down his hometown Pistons off his Most-Improved Season. Grant Hill 投奔 Orlando。Ben Wallace 和 Chucky Atkins 在簽換協議中一起離開，他們三人都是自由球員。Jalen Rose 則在拿下進步最快球員後，拒絕了來自家鄉球隊活塞的報價。 With bad contracts to players meant to compliment Grant Hill, and no one willing to sign for the Pistons, it was assumed that the Piston were dead. "The Clippers of the East." They'd have to build through the draft. 活塞當時手上盡是圍繞 Grant Hill 打造的爛合約，沒人想來這裡，大家都認為這支球隊完了，簡直是「東區快艇」。唯一的希望就是從選秀重建。 (譯者註 : “The Clippers of the East” 說法 :意指活塞當年戰績與經營混亂，像是當時以失敗著稱的洛杉磯快艇。這句話說明活塞在 Grant Hill 離隊後一度跌入谷底，無人看好。 Jalen Rose 是底特律人結果跑去溜馬, Isiah Thomas 是活塞人結果去溜馬當教練, 大家那時候覺得底特律就是一個沒有人想去的地方) Meanwhile, Donnie Walsh was a genius. He jettisoned the mid-90s stars of yesteryear, guys that earned great success to give Reggie a chance at a ring. Somehow, by tearing down the team, he was a media darling. 與此同時，Donnie Walsh 簡直是天才。他果斷送走 90 年代的功臣級球星，讓 Reggie Miller 有機會衝擊冠軍。奇妙的是，這樣拆隊重建，媒體竟一致叫好。 (譯者註: Donnie Walsh 的“清洗重建”與媒體美化 : 溜馬總管 Donnie Walsh 在 2000 年後清空明星球員，以「給 Reggie Miller 再衝一次冠軍」的名義進行重建，但與活塞被抨擊不同，媒體反而讚譽他高瞻遠矚。此處反映作者的不平與媒體偏頗。) Where did Indiana finish in 2000-01? We finished 10th, chasing them. 2000–01 年那季，Indiana 打到哪？我們只排第 10 名，還在追趕他們。 The 2001-02 season brought a coaching search and the Pistons--with a real-time, media-available, Chuck Daly for a Professional reference (Rick was an Assistant in New Jersey) at his press conference, promised not wins, but a style of play. Scrappy. Defensive. Wins would be secondary. 2001–02 球季開始，活塞展開選帥。記者會上我們特別找來 Chuck Daly 作為顧問參考（Rick 當時是籃網助教），新教練不是保證勝利，而是承諾一種球風：拼命、強硬防守。勝利是其次。 The idea that no one would come here? Re-sign Corliss Williamson. Re-sign Dana Barros. Trade-and-sign for the Rights to Zeljiko Rebraca. Sign Victor Alexander. 大家說沒人會來活塞？結果我們續簽了 Corliss Williamson、Dana Barros，還透過簽換拿下 Zeljko Rebraca 的權利，簽了 Victor Alexander。 How they got Williamson? They're own free agent, Jerome Williams didn't want to be here, so they got him out of Lenny Wilkens doghouse in Toronto. 怎麼得到 Williamson？因為我們自己家的自由球員 Jerome Williams 不想留下，我們乾脆去把他從 Lenny Wilkens 在 Toronto 的冷板凳裡換回來。 Winning 14 of their first 20, then 33 of their final 46, you'll never find it on a score sheet or looking through a Hall-of-Fame class, an All-NBA team. 那支球隊開季前 20 場贏了 14 場，最後 46 場贏了 33 場。你在數據表、名人堂名單或年度最佳陣容裡都不會看到他們的名字。 PG: Chucky Atkins. SG: Jerry Stackhouse. SF: Mike Curry. PF: Clifford Robinson. C: Ben Wallace. 6: Corliss Williamson. 7: Jon Barry. 8: Damon Jones. 9: Zeljiko Rebraca. 先發：Chucky Atkins、Jerry Stackhouse、Mike Curry、Clifford Robinson、Ben Wallace。替補：Corliss Williamson、Jon Barry、Damon Jones、Zeljiko Rebraca。 50-32--the best since 1996-97 & broke Daly's record best first season in Detroit (49-33 in 1983-84). Larry Brown and Flip Saunders have broken it since. 戰績 50 勝 32 敗，是自 96–97 年以來最佳，也打破了 Daly 教練在 1983–84 年執教第一年的 49 勝紀錄。雖然這紀錄後來被 Larry Brown 和 Flip Saunders 打破。 Central Division Champion--the best since 1990. The First Round Victory over Toronto--The first since 1991. 中區冠軍，自 1990 年以來最佳。首輪擊敗 Toronto，是自 1991 年以來第一次贏下季後賽系列賽。 Enter Chauncey Billups and using Bill Davidson's personal jet to get Carlisle to his front door, from his vacation, at 12:01 AM on July 1st. 然後我們簽下了 Chauncey Billups，還出動 Bill Davidson 的私人飛機，把 Carlisle 教練從度假地半夜 12:01 接到家門口。 2002-03: The first #1 seed since 1990. The first Conference Finals since 1991. 2002–03 年，我們是自 1990 年以來首度拿下東區第一種子，也是自 1991 年以來首度打進東區決賽。 Where is Reggie, Isiah Thomas, Jalen Rose, and genius Donnie Walsh? LB wants to come here. Carlisle shows up to his own firing Press Conference. I'm furious. Reggie、Isiah Thomas、Jalen Rose、還有那個「天才」 Donnie Walsh 現在在哪？ Larry Brown 想來我們這裡，Carlisle 卻出現在自己被炒魷魚的記者會上。我真的超火大。 (譯者註: 這一段作者寫得有點跳, 這邊說活塞終於衝上來了, 原本搶了笑笑湯跟 Rose , 還有那個被媒體吹捧的 Donnie Walsh 也沒比較厲害, 結果管理層卻把卡帥炒了) "We finally get a good coach here...we just threw away Chuck (Daly)!" 「我們終於有個好教練了……結果就這樣把第二個 Chuck Daly 給丟了！」 3-0 because Jermaine O'Neal is a beast. Enter Rasheed Wallace. Guaransheed. The block on Reggie. Hamilton's 33 in Conseco. Artest hits Hamilton's mask to propel the Pistons to the Finals. 正常來說因為 Jermaine O'Neal 太猛了感覺溜馬會把活塞 3-0,但是 Rasheed Wallace 站了出來，他喊出了口號: 保證贏球（Guaransheed）。Prince 蓋掉了 Reggie。 Hamilton 在溜馬主場 Conseco 拿下 33 分。Artest 打了 Hamilton 的面罩送上罰球，活塞就這樣打進總冠軍賽。 "These are our rivals! The Bulls are back!" 「這些才是我們的宿敵！公牛也回來了！」 (譯者註: 作者的時間點有點亂, 不過這裡其實是提到那幾年溜馬公牛活塞拚搶的時光, 這是當年的熱血戲碼) It took years to process. Anyone willing to talk about the Pistons after Hill left, was my brother or sister. After that? It was less about the community and more about winning and what it takes to win. 我花了好幾年才釋懷。Grant Hill 離開之後，還願意談活塞的，就是我兄弟姊妹。但再往後？活塞球迷之間已經不只是社群，而是更深一層對「如何贏球」的執著。 It's been a deep winter. I cheered for George to get one on Lebron. I never had any animosity for Indiana, except the notion that it was "racist." It was blue and white, not black and white. You had on the wrong jersey. We threw things at Carlisle. 這些年像一個漫長寒冬。我也曾為 Paul George 在 LeBron 面前爭氣而歡呼。我從沒恨過 Indiana，除了外界說那裡「種族歧視」的說法。在我們看來，那裡只是藍與白，不是黑與白。你只是穿錯了球衣。我們曾對 Carlisle 丟過東西。 (譯者註: 與溜馬迷一直重建但止步東決相同, 活塞迷在 Grant Hill 之後更慘, 作者說他有試著為 Paul George 加過油, 也懺悔過不該對 Rick Carlisle 丟東西) But, somehow, it made me appreciate the game more. We couldn't stop Siakam (37 on January 29th) and I saw this team pick itself up. Haliburton has been off-the-charts and when he hit the shot in OKC...I worried I might wake up the neighbors. 但說也奇怪，這些讓我更熱愛籃球。那晚我們守不住 Siakam（1 月 29 日得了 37 分），我卻看到這支球隊慢慢站起來。Haliburton 打得瘋狂，尤其他在 OKC 投進那一球…… 我都怕自己吵醒鄰居。 They never say die. They never relent. They believe in each other. They are so fun to watch. I watched a team at 7-1 win a title. I looked up the odds, for fun, before game one! 這支球隊從不放棄、從不退縮。他們彼此信任，打得超有趣。我曾見證一支一賠七的球隊奪冠。我甚至在總冠軍戰 Game 1 前去查了賠率，純粹好玩。 "10-1?! These people are crazy! They're out of their damn minds!" 「10 賠 1？這些賭場的人瘋了吧！根本失了智！」 It feels so familiar. This was so dramatic, but I am waiting for three more wins to finish the job. Call me a dated honky-tonk for repeating Chad Brock but--"Thunder makes the noise, boys, lightning does the work." It will not be easy, but you guys deserve it. 這一切感覺太熟悉了。雖然這次戲劇性十足，但我還在等那三場勝利，完成使命。就算你笑我老派，還在引用 Chad Brock 的歌詞——「發出聲響的是雷，真正做事的是閃電。」這條路不會輕鬆，但你們值得這一切。 After Reggie has failed, and a cup of beer from a fan took you out the King and waiting since '73 to hoist another...It feels way too familiar. Reggie 失利後，一杯啤酒讓你們失去了冠軍，從 1973 年等到現在……這一切熟悉得讓人心痛。 ---- 我想這篇文也能表達出活塞迷那幾年的心路歷程, 跟他們的球風幸好他們也終於走出重建了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 68.216.60.87 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1749618136.A.76C.html ※ PiGFAcE:轉錄至看板 PACERS 06/11 13:04

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