[花邊] 前國王助教:Cousins曾兩次試圖要揍Karl

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George Karl hasn’t had the greatest PR tour since retiring as an NBA coach in 2016. Hall-of-Fame forward Carmelo Anthony has been outspoken about Karl’ s questionable coaching methods. Those sentiments were further validated by former Sacramento Kings big man DeMarcus Cousins. Former Kings assistant coach Nancy Lieberman recently revealed more information about Karl’s true nature. When examining George Karl’s coaching career on paper, it appears he was quite successful. His head coaching career began with the Cleveland Cavaliers in the 1984-85 season, but he didn’t reach notoriety until joining the Seattle SuperSonics. Under his leadership, the Sonics recorded six consecutive seasons with 55+ wins, including an NBA Finals appearance in 1996. Eventually, Karl landed in Sacramento, marking the final stop in his career. His two seasons with the Kings didn’t go nearly as well as his time in Seattle. A big reason had to do with his inability to land on the same page as the team’s best player, DeMarcus Cousins. 自2016年從NBA教練職位退休後,George Karl的公眾形象一直不佳。Carmelo Anthony曾公 開批評Karl執教方式有問題,這些說法近期更被DeMarcus Cousins所驗證,前國王隊助理 教練Nancy Lieberman近日更揭露了卡爾的的更多細節。 從紙面成績上看,George Karl的執教生涯相當成功。他於1984-85賽季開始擔任克里夫蘭 騎士隊總教練,但直到執教西雅圖超音速隊才聲名大噪。在他的帶領下,超音速隊連續六 個賽季取得55勝以上的戰績,並在1996年打入NBA總決賽。 最終,Karl來到國王隊,這也是他執教生涯的最後一站。然而,他在國王的兩個賽季遠不 如在超音速的輝煌,而其中一個主要原因,是他與球隊核心DeMarcus Cousins始終無法達 成共識。 Their issues weren’t about coaching philosophy. In fact, Cousins admired Karl ’s mind for the game; he had trouble with everything else. Unlike Karl, who has become extremely vocal about his grievances with players, Cousins doesn’t speak much about the details of his relationship with Karl. Lieberman doesn’t follow those same rules. She revealed some under-the-radar information involving the pair. “There were two times in the locker room when [DeMarcus] tried to beat up George Karl,” Lieberman said on the 3s and Ones Podcast. Usually, what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. It would be naive to think Cousins is the only player to physically challenge his coach. Although, on the more drastic side, Latrell Sprewell once choked the Golden State Warriors’ head coach during a practice. But it’s not abnormal for emotions to reach a boiling point in a team atmosphere. Unfortunately for Cousins, coaches look out for one another. According to Lieberman, when word began to spread about what took place, that began the downfall of the four-time All-Star’s career. “That’s why he’s not given a chance,” Lieberman proclaimed. “That coach’ s circle is no joke.” Of course, Lieberman was among that circle of coaches, but she didn’t use Cousins’ actions against him. She reasoned that she saw firsthand Karl’s horrible habits, including racism. “I thought George was one of the most racist people. I sat in the meetings. It was unbelievable,” Lieberman declared. It’s clear that Karl didn’t just lose the locker room in terms of his players but also his coaching staff with the Kings. It’s no wonder he was fired from the organization after only two seasons. 兩人的矛盾並非戰術理念上的分歧。事實上,Cousins很欣賞Karl的籃球IQ;但無法忍受 他的其他行為。 「他的籃球IQ令人驚嘆,但他就是最糟糕的教練」Cousins在《All The Smoke》播客中說 ,「問題在於他的一切所作所為。」與Karl在退休後頻繁公開抱怨球員不同,Cousins鮮 少談論兩人間關係的細節。但Lieberman選擇打破沉默,她在《3s and Ones》播客中透露 :「有兩次在更衣室裡Cousins試圖要去揍George Karl。」 通常更衣室衝突不會外傳,但球員與教練的肢體衝突並非罕見。最極端的例子是Latrell Sprewell曾在訓練中掐住勇士隊教練的脖子。 對Cousins而言,不幸的是教練們往往會互相照應。據Lieberman表示,當這件事開始在圈 內傳開時,也就是這位四屆全明星職業生涯走下坡的開始。 Lieberman身為教練圈一員卻未因此否定Cousins,她解釋自己親眼見證Karl的惡劣行徑, 包括種族歧視:「我認為Karl是最種族主義的人之一,我在會議中親耳聽過那些言論,簡 直難以置信。」 顯然Karl不僅在球員之間失去了更衣室的支持,就連國王隊的教練團也對他失去了信任, 難怪他只待了兩個賽季就遭到解雇。 來源:https://reurl.cc/2Qz6Nr -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.65.10 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1754742508.A.703.html

08/09 20:31, 4月前 , 1F
其實說表弟想要揍任何人我都信
08/09 20:31, 1F

08/09 20:33, 4月前 , 2F
離開國王後囧卡也沒執教了
08/09 20:33, 2F

08/09 20:35, 4月前 , 3F
草叢裡的蛇
08/09 20:35, 3F

08/09 20:38, 4月前 , 4F
種族問題那就是真的有問題了
08/09 20:38, 4F

08/09 20:44, 4月前 , 5F
表弟生涯中處得最好的教練應該是雲豹的吧
08/09 20:44, 5F

08/09 20:47, 4月前 , 6F
George Karl執教很久 有種族問題可以執教這麼久?
08/09 20:47, 6F

08/09 20:52, 4月前 , 7F
揍人基因
08/09 20:52, 7F

08/09 20:55, 4月前 , 8F
NBA這種黑人領域的教練有種族問題?
08/09 20:55, 8F

08/09 20:56, 4月前 , 9F
不是,跟表弟關係最好的教練是Mike Malone
08/09 20:56, 9F

08/09 21:06, 4月前 , 10F
最好的教練是雲豹XDXD
08/09 21:06, 10F

08/09 21:13, 4月前 , 11F
想揍裁判可能不只二十次
08/09 21:13, 11F

08/09 21:19, 4月前 , 12F
老蛇就被時代淘汰的教練
08/09 21:19, 12F

08/09 21:20, 4月前 , 13F
因為大部分權力還是在白人手裡啊( ̄▽ ̄)
08/09 21:20, 13F

08/09 21:22, 4月前 , 14F
機車指數:考辛斯兩拳
08/09 21:22, 14F

08/09 21:34, 4月前 , 15F
莫名其妙砍掉Malone實在不價值表弟
08/09 21:34, 15F

08/09 21:34, 4月前 , 16F
不忍苛責*
08/09 21:34, 16F

08/09 21:38, 4月前 , 17F
已經不止一個球員說Karl是蛇了
08/09 21:38, 17F

08/09 21:39, 4月前 , 18F
大家都想揍囧卡吧
08/09 21:39, 18F

08/09 21:42, 4月前 , 19F
被白人女性說有種族歧視問題 應該就蠻真的
08/09 21:42, 19F

08/09 22:04, 4月前 , 20F
表弟有不想揍的人嗎
08/09 22:04, 20F

08/09 22:08, 4月前 , 21F
想揍Karl的請先排隊
08/09 22:08, 21F

08/09 22:09, 4月前 , 22F
笑死
08/09 22:09, 22F

08/09 22:31, 4月前 , 23F
以為是Karl Malone 想說表弟也太有種
08/09 22:31, 23F

08/09 22:32, 4月前 , 24F
老白人都很噁
08/09 22:32, 24F

08/09 22:36, 4月前 , 25F
太壞了,綠師傅最多也只是揍隊友而已
08/09 22:36, 25F

08/09 22:37, 4月前 , 26F
Karl在國王就老番顛了阿 國王時期帶得很爛
08/09 22:37, 26F

08/09 22:40, 4月前 , 27F

08/09 22:41, 4月前 , 28F
老布朗名聲也不好但上下同門派的都有人挺一樣可以
08/09 22:41, 28F

08/09 22:41, 4月前 , 29F
幹到老。
08/09 22:41, 29F

08/09 22:41, 4月前 , 30F
想揍Karl的人應該超多
08/09 22:41, 30F

08/09 22:50, 4月前 , 31F
囧卡,禪師 ,mark jackson搞休息室鬥爭有名的。
08/09 22:50, 31F

08/09 22:52, 4月前 , 32F
可是表弟要揍人其實也很難說會是因為對方有問題
08/09 22:52, 32F

08/09 23:04, 4月前 , 33F
在NBA種族歧視,很有勇氣喔
08/09 23:04, 33F

08/09 23:21, 4月前 , 34F
但戰術是巔峰等級的,囧卡跟丹安東尼大師看不到瘋
08/09 23:21, 34F

08/09 23:21, 4月前 , 35F
狂的進攻戰術真的好可惜
08/09 23:21, 35F

08/09 23:24, 4月前 , 36F
千勝教頭還是挺厲害的
08/09 23:24, 36F

08/09 23:30, 4月前 , 37F
如果George Karl 有種族歧視,早就被手套跟Kemp揍了
08/09 23:30, 37F

08/09 23:32, 4月前 , 38F
我不覺得有種族歧視還能在NBA執教這麼久誒,先觀望
08/09 23:32, 38F

08/09 23:34, 4月前 , 39F
80-00那時候管理層黑人權利跟現在差很多吧
08/09 23:34, 39F
還有 31 則推文
08/10 06:29, 4月前 , 71F
黑人就是____
08/10 06:29, 71F

08/10 07:28, 4月前 , 72F
表弟誰不想揍?
08/10 07:28, 72F

08/10 08:00, 4月前 , 73F
表弟超派
08/10 08:00, 73F

08/10 08:17, 4月前 , 74F
表弟真的可惜
08/10 08:17, 74F

08/10 08:21, 4月前 , 75F
美國黑人渾身歧視居點不意外
08/10 08:21, 75F

08/10 08:24, 4月前 , 76F
教練種族主義有很罕見嗎 JJ:
08/10 08:24, 76F

08/10 08:24, 4月前 , 77F
又不是歧視黑人才叫種族主義
08/10 08:24, 77F

08/10 08:42, 4月前 , 78F
第4頁不是有提到表弟很少談這塊嗎
08/10 08:42, 78F

08/10 08:43, 4月前 , 79F
他早年脾氣不好沒錯 但他沒有很頻繁出來講吧
08/10 08:43, 79F

08/10 08:45, 4月前 , 80F
表弟惹出來的麻煩事很多,說的也不一定都是如此
08/10 08:45, 80F

08/10 08:46, 4月前 , 81F
其他人也沒聽說跟George Karl有過節
08/10 08:46, 81F

08/10 09:12, 4月前 , 82F
這種屎尿個性一點都不可惜
08/10 09:12, 82F

08/10 10:24, 4月前 , 83F
查了一下 明明一堆人跟Karl有過節==
08/10 10:24, 83F

08/10 11:12, 4月前 , 84F
最機車的雷槍好像也沒嗆過卡爾(! 所以真的有表弟說
08/10 11:12, 84F

08/10 11:12, 4月前 , 85F
得那麼嚴重嗎 雖然卡爾真的很老派就是了
08/10 11:12, 85F

08/10 11:17, 4月前 , 86F
如果是一個個性平穩腦袋清楚的球員出來爆料 那可信
08/10 11:17, 86F

08/10 11:17, 4月前 , 87F
度會高更多XD
08/10 11:17, 87F

08/10 11:51, 4月前 , 88F
囧卡不是出書還是在哪裡大罵以前帶的球員嗎?沒看過
08/10 11:51, 88F

08/10 11:51, 4月前 , 89F
這種教練,竟然還有人護航
08/10 11:51, 89F

08/10 12:20, 4月前 , 90F
表弟脾氣爆 但他還不算壞吧 事出都有因的
08/10 12:20, 90F

08/10 12:22, 4月前 , 91F
表弟這個人的前科,感覺就是屁話的成分居多
08/10 12:22, 91F

08/10 12:22, 4月前 , 92F
這篇又不是表弟爆料 種族歧視也不是表弟出來喊 怎麼
08/10 12:22, 92F

08/10 12:22, 4月前 , 93F
一堆人箭靶射表弟啊
08/10 12:22, 93F

08/10 12:23, 4月前 , 94F
種族歧視這種東西如果真的有怎麼可能到現在都沒爆
08/10 12:23, 94F

08/10 12:23, 4月前 , 95F
出來,卡爾在聯盟當教練時間很長欸
08/10 12:23, 95F

08/10 12:37, 4月前 , 96F
奇怪這篇又不是表弟本身出來講的,明明最後有其他
08/10 12:37, 96F

08/10 12:37, 4月前 , 97F
人出來背書,推文一堆直接劍指表弟是都沒看完文章
08/10 12:37, 97F

08/10 12:37, 4月前 , 98F
08/10 12:37, 98F

08/10 12:43, 4月前 , 99F
現在是文章都不看就要推文了嗎?
08/10 12:43, 99F

08/10 12:59, 4月前 , 100F
一堆人把Liberman講的話當成表弟講的,閱讀能力堪憂
08/10 12:59, 100F

08/10 12:59, 4月前 , 101F
*Lieberman
08/10 12:59, 101F

08/10 14:44, 4月前 , 102F
有些北七比賽都不看就能評論了 文章不看也不奇怪
08/10 14:44, 102F

08/10 20:25, 4月前 , 103F
Karl大概說話很酸那種
08/10 20:25, 103F

08/10 23:54, 4月前 , 104F
一個白人說另一個白人種族歧視,然後推文說黑人又
08/10 23:54, 104F

08/10 23:54, 4月前 , 105F
在上綱了
08/10 23:54, 105F

08/11 02:31, 4月前 , 106F
結果表弟跑到波多黎各想去揍觀眾
08/11 02:31, 106F

08/11 05:19, 4月前 , 107F
他是真的會貶低那些黑人球員…越街頭他越不喜歡
08/11 05:19, 107F

08/11 05:20, 4月前 , 108F
他罵球員是會扯到球員的生長環境跟背景的
08/11 05:20, 108F

08/11 15:48, 4月前 , 109F
波多黎各那個是觀眾潑他啤酒,而且主辦方也沒有要處
08/11 15:48, 109F

08/11 15:49, 4月前 , 110F
理的意思
08/11 15:49, 110F
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