Re: [洋基] Open Thread: The Xavier Nady debate

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有大大指正~ 我稍微改一下, 免得誤會 ※ 引述《appshjkli (Red Spider Lily)》之銘言： : http://0rz.tw/9c5gL : Posted by: Ben K. in Polls. Tagged: Xavier Nady : As the Yanks head into Spring Training, they may or may not have a roster : with too many outfielders for too few spaces. Johnny Damon is entrenched in : left field and the lead-off spot while Brett Gardner and Melky Cabrera will : seemingly battle it out for center field. In right, Nick Swisher and Xavier : Nady offer the Yanks a plethora of platoon options with Hideki Matsui as the : DH. 左外 Damon 當然人選中外 Gardner/Cabrera 兩個小朋友去爭 (哈,ok不ok? 你說呢=.=) 右外 Swisher/Nady 再加上Matsui, 變化很多樣, DH會很擠 : The Yanks could look to trade an outfielder. Damon wouldn’t — and probably : shouldn’t — be the one to go while no team would take on Hideki without a : guarantee that his knees could hold up. So that leaves Swisher and Nady as : the potential trade bait. Swisher had a seemingly poor 2008, but luck had a : big role in suppressing his numbers. He also has a better track record than : Nady. 洋基可以賣掉一個外野, Damon表現優秀. 應該不會賣松井的膝蓋傷, 賣相不好 (他還有NTC勒) Swisher and Nady兩個賣相好很多! 前者在08年打得很爛, 但是運氣不會一直這麼背吧？而且就紀錄上來說, Swisher比Nady來得好 (Nady今年算是career high) : But no one seems to generate more discussion than Nady as the Yanks shop : their outfielders. In answering some mail this week, Steve Goldman opined : about Nady: : What happened to the Yankees’ fondness of Xavier Nady? It seemed like when : they got him, the organization really liked him. But now they’re thinking of : trading him? Trading away a .305 AVG, 25 HR and 97 RBI from an offense that : had trouble scoring runs last year? Does that even make sense? –Tucker : It makes a ton of sense, Tucker, because Nady isn’t really a .305 hitter. In : his career, he’s been far closer to the hitter he cooled from his hot : pinstriped start, a .268/.320/.474 hitter. As far as corner outfield : production goes, it’s subpar. If Nick Swisher gets back on track this year, : he’ll get on base much closer to 40 percent of the time and show comparable : power. The value in Nady last season was that he was a huge in-season upgrade : on Melky Cabrera, who he displaced from the lineup by allowing Johnny Damon : to go back to center. That was a very nice move by Brian Cashman to staunch a : bleeding wound, but Nady isn’t someone a championship team plans on : starting. 在洋基眾外野中, Nady的詢問度最高 .305 AVG, 25 HR and 97 RBI 洋基真的要把他賣掉嗎？(這裡是討論...沒有褒貶意味) Steve Goldman的說法： Nady在剛來紐約的火熱手感以後之後就冷掉了 (.268/.320/.474 這看起來像是個CF的表現) 他並不是一個真正的三成打擊率的選手如果Nady09年還是在洋基, 他的上壘率會更向 .4 靠近上季Nady的表現就像是加強版的Melky Cabrera 或許可以考慮讓Nady取代Cabrera, 然後Damon回到中外野 (成為Nady/Damom/Swisher的外野陣容?) (這一段翻譯, 可以見下一篇的說法) 無論如何, Nady並不是一隻要搶世界冠軍隊伍的首選 : Meanwhile, one of the various Steve’s who read RAB wrote in with this take : on the X Man: : He’s one of the more misunderstood players on the Yanks, with many believing : “he had a fluke year” and “he’s a NL player,” both of which are : demonstrably false. Nady是個被洋基球迷誤解的選手許多人都認為他去年的表現是僥倖, 他只是個NL的選手 (這句我照翻喔,別問我) 但這些都已經被證實是錯誤的 : Check out the progression Nady has made over the past 5 years, especially vs : righties. (The numbers are BA/OBP/SLG/OPS.) : 2004 : AVG OBP SLG OPS : vs R .178 .213 .311 .524 : vs L .344 .417 .563 .979 : 2005 : vs R .223 .270 .431 .700 : vs L .323 .400 .452 .852 : 2006 : vs R .263 .312 .424 .736 : vs L .336 .418 .551 .969 : 2007 : vs R .274 .322 .479 .802 : vs L .295 .356 .463 .819 : 2008 : vs R .317 .357 .529 .886 : vs L .262 .361 .444 .805 : He has steadily improved from being a platoon player who only hit lefties, to : one who hit righties better than lefties last season. Even if that was a peak : year for him, if he was to revert to his 2007 line he would still be a fine : everyday player and a good replacement for Abreu, especially when you factor : in his value as a (slightly better than league average) fielder, and Abreu : being the worst RF in the AL by most measures. Nady過去五年, 穩定的成長他面對左投表現比較好(去年情況剛好相反) 他去年的確是生涯高峰但就算他回到07年的表現, 他還是值得天天出賽, 而且是取代Abreu的好人選 Nady是個(比聯盟平均稍微好一點)的外野手而Abreu的表現, 被認為是AL最糟糕的RF : Now to the AL/NL stuff: : 2007 : 1st Half .291 .344 .504 .848 : 2nd Half .255 .303 .425 .728 : 2008 : 1st Half .321 .377 .525 .901 : 2nd Half .284 .333 .492 .825 : The middling second half he had leads many Yankee fans to believe that he’s : “not an AL player,” but he actually had a similarly weak (.80 drop off in : OPS both years) 2nd half in 2007 in the NL, which could say something about : his conditioning or training regimen, but not the league. It’s also worth : noting that he only became a full time player in 2008 (607 PAs), he had about : 500 PAs in 2007/2006 and 356 PAs in 2005. Again, he is progressing from a : platoon player to an everyday player. : So what will it be? Should the Yankees trade Xavier Nady? I’d be inclined to : keep him as a fourth outfielder, long his traditional role, and if Swisher : falters, they have a Plan B. He provides a lot of pop off the bench, and the : Yanks don’t need to trade him right now. : Let’s open the floor on this debate with an ever-popular poll, and feel free : to use this post as tonight’s open thread. 洋基應該交易Nady嗎？或許可以把他留著當 4th OF 他可以作為Swisher表現不好時的備案留著他對板凳強度有很大的提昇洋基不需要急著把他賣掉 (留著看有人想被搶科科) -- 我自己還滿喜歡Nady的希望別被交易嘍 ~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.114.56.230

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