Re: [農場] Yanks working to improve Montero’s …

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※ 引述《appshjkli (折耳貓)》之銘言: : http://0rz.tw/o7Vou : Early on in camp this year, the story to end all stories has been : uber-prospect Jesus Montero. A career .700-.750-1.400 hitter in big league : Spring Training, he has already made a big impression with his batting : practice showings this year despite being in camp for just over a week. He : going to begin the 2010 season as the everyday catcher for Triple-A Scranton : though it’s still hard to believe that through his age-19 season, Montero : is a .325-.379-.509 hitter in 1,071 minor league plate appearances despite : reaching Double-A. 在今年才開始不久的春訓營裡,比起任何其他事情都值得討論的, 只有一件事(或者應該說只有一個人),那就是我們的超級新秀--Jesus Montero!!! 今年春訓也不過才一個禮拜,他已經在打擊練習的時候嚇死一堆人了, 而他生涯在大聯盟春訓的打擊三圍是.700/.750/1.400。 今年,他會在3A以每日先發捕手的身分展開他的2010球季。 更讓人難以置信的是,儘管他在19歲時就從1A升上2A,打擊成績還是一樣威猛, 生涯在小聯盟累計成績是1071個打席,打擊三圍.325/.379/.509。 : PECOTA pegs Montero as a .299-.352-.498 hitter with 23 homers if given 528 : plate appearances in the big leagues next year, which is obviously an : extremely optimistic projection. For comparison’s sake, Jorge Posada has : matched that OBP and SLG in a single season just three times in his career. : "He's going to hit,” said one evaluator that Buster Olney spoke to."There's : no question about that. Some guys just know how to hit; he’s like that.” : Yeah, he’s going to hit, but not like that this early in his career. PECOTA預測: 明年如果讓Montero在大聯盟打到528個打席, 他可以打出.299/.353/.498外帶23轟的成績(這根本是All-Star等級的捕手)。 當然,這個預測很明顯地太樂觀了一些。 讓我們來做個小小的比較,你就知道這個預測有多樂觀了。 我們的當家Posada,在他的整個生涯裡, 也只有三季可以達到這種的上壘率跟長打率。 「他會打得很好的。」球評Buster Olney說: 「有的人就是知道怎樣把球打好,他就是這種人。」 對啦對啦~ 我們知道他會打得很好啦!! 不過應該不會這麼這麼早啦!! : Of course, Montero’s bat was never the question, defense in. Olney discussed : some of the things the Yankees are trying to help Montero become a passable : catcher, including a unique set of throwing mechanics. Instead of popping up : on both feet and firing to second, bench coach Tony Pena and the Yanks have : him keeping his right foot in place while taking a short stride with his left : foot. It sounds awkward, and I tried it a handful of times in my living room : while writing this post, and it’s definitely not a natural feeling. : (Disclaimer: I’m most likely less athletic than Montero). Basically, the : only way someone could pull this off consistently is if they have a strong : arm, which Montero does. 當然,Montero的打擊從來就不是個問題,他的問題在於守備。 Olney談了一些關於洋基想要幫助Montero成為一位還OK的捕手的事, 包括一個量身訂做的課程,來訓練Montero的傳球動作。 洋基要Montero在往二壘傳球的時候,不要雙腳同時彈(站)起來, 而是把右腳維持在原來的位置,只要將左腳向前跨一小步就好。 這聽起來還真是怪怪的。筆者在寫這篇文章的時候,自己在家裡客廳試了幾次, 嗯... 那感覺就是不大自然。(譯者: 這傢伙的客廳也太大了一點...) 不負責評論: 筆者不像Montero是個專業運動員, 這個傳球動作到底好不好,筆者只能嘴砲一下而已。 基本上,能夠做到這種傳球動作的人,必須要有一條強壯的手臂, 而這剛好是Montero擁有的。 : I’m not sure how long he’s been throwing like this, however he did thrown : out 32% of attempted basestealers during his Double-A Trenton stint last : season. Of course, he caught a grand total of 33 games for the Thunder, so : this is statistically insignificant. Montero’s thrown out just 23% of all : attempted basestealers during his career, but that number isn’t trustworthy : at all because the Yanks don’t emphasize their pitchers holding baserunners : at the A-ball level and below. Frankly, we just don’t know how well this : has/will work. 我不大確定他已經用這種方法傳球多久了,然而, 他在2A當捕手的時候,的的確確讓32%試圖在他手上盜壘的人被他阻殺掉。 不過他在2A雷霆隊也只蹲了33場,樣本數還太少,這個阻殺率在統計上並不顯著。 Montero的小聯盟生涯阻殺率是弱弱的23%,但這個數字並沒有什麼大不了的。 因為洋基向來都不會叫他們1A(或更低層級)的投手盯緊壘上的跑者。 坦白說,我們其實沒辦法知道Montero的阻殺到底好不好。 : The consensus is that Montero will not be a catcher moving forward, however : the Yankees are coming up with creative ways to make it work back there, even : if it’s just for the time being. It’s not often catchers jump right into : the big league lineup full-time as rookies, so all the Yanks will need : Montero to do for the next few years is be able to fake it back there two or : three times a week. The bat is so special, none of us will mind the defense. 球評們一直有個共識,那就是: Montero未來應該不會是個捕手。 不過洋基想出了一堆創意無限的方法,就是想讓Montero能蹲, 就算只是暫時性的也好。 反正,也沒有幾個菜鳥捕手可以一升上大聯盟就天天蹲, 所以洋基只需要Montero在未來幾年裡,成為一個每週能蹲個兩三場的捕手就夠了。 Montero的棒子太特別了,我們沒有人會去介意他防守好不好的。 -- 讓Montero撐個兩三年,等到FA有大物捕手再去搶,這才是洋基作風嘛~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 163.29.130.56 ※ 編輯: KennyKuo 來自: 163.29.130.56 (02/26 11:06)

02/26 11:19, , 1F
那個三圍沒啥好說嘴的 很小的樣本
02/26 11:19, 1F

02/26 11:58, , 2F
一旦不能蹲就被鐵爺卡死 這樣一點也不有趣
02/26 11:58, 2F

02/26 12:04, , 3F
轉LF阿~
02/26 12:04, 3F

02/26 12:11, , 4F
正好缺LF呢...
02/26 12:11, 4F

02/26 12:15, , 5F
萬一Mauer被綁住那下個FA大捕手我還不知道要選誰..
02/26 12:15, 5F

02/26 12:17, , 6F
就.....強迫Montero繼續蹲吧 XDXD
02/26 12:17, 6F

02/26 12:18, , 7F
McCann要綁到2013 Russell Martin搞不好有望
02/26 12:18, 7F

02/26 12:19, , 8F
不過他去年真的很淒慘
02/26 12:19, 8F

02/26 12:20, , 9F
我覺得最好情況就是Austin Romine真的能在2011頂上來
02/26 12:20, 9F

02/26 12:58, , 10F
所以他主要問題是阻殺還是接補咧?不然明年也可以像
02/26 12:58, 10F

02/26 12:59, , 11F
像去年一樣波波DH二哥蹲→耶穌DH福將蹲
02/26 12:59, 11F

02/26 13:10, , 12F
簽到Mauer就轉LF 要不然以後就跟Romine分場次蹲吧
02/26 13:10, 12F

02/26 17:18, , 13F
問題在步伐跟接球上
02/26 17:18, 13F

02/26 18:47, , 14F
期待季中Montero上來蹲個幾場試看看 Mauer要10年約
02/26 18:47, 14F

02/26 18:49, , 15F
低調一點看看會發生什麼事....
02/26 18:49, 15F

02/26 19:14, , 16F
他的守備能力 能不能在LF生存是個問題
02/26 19:14, 16F

02/26 19:44, , 17F
轉DL阿~  (誤
02/26 19:44, 17F

02/26 19:45, , 18F
純噓樓上 我覺得不太好笑qq
02/26 19:45, 18F

02/26 19:45, , 19F
......不同守位的防守不能這樣比
02/26 19:45, 19F

02/26 20:46, , 20F
LF哪需要什麼守備能力,能跑能接就可以了......
02/26 20:46, 20F

02/26 20:49, , 21F
可是有些LF連能跑能接都做不到...
02/26 20:49, 21F

02/26 20:52, , 22F
某個BBWAA的成員跟我講過,把Montero擺外野
02/26 20:52, 22F

02/26 20:52, , 23F
就像把Bengie Molina擺外野一樣科科
02/26 20:52, 23F

02/26 21:07, , 24F
Montero的問題應該是在什麼時候該賣掉吧~~
02/26 21:07, 24F

02/26 21:32, , 25F
沒有速度有臂力的 Adam Dunn
02/26 21:32, 25F

02/26 21:40, , 26F
耶穌:自從這小子上大聯盟之後 我的耳朵愈來愈癢了...
02/26 21:40, 26F

02/26 21:54, , 27F
那還真慘,那還是強迫他蹲捕手好了 XD
02/26 21:54, 27F

02/26 22:36, , 28F
ok啦 棒子很殺的話就當Piazza在蹲捕就好了
02/26 22:36, 28F

02/27 00:12, , 29F
如果捕手的位置練得起來真是無價之寶,想到都流口水
02/27 00:12, 29F

02/27 13:19, , 30F
Piazza?能夠打得跟Posada一樣就很滿足了
02/27 13:19, 30F

02/27 13:21, , 31F
J.Posada .277/.379/.480 M.Piazza .308/.377/.545
02/27 13:21, 31F

02/27 13:34, , 32F
Piazza守備比Posada更濫一點
02/27 13:34, 32F

02/27 13:37, , 33F
變Piazza也太high了......
02/27 13:37, 33F

02/28 04:27, , 34F
就是因為看過Piazza才讓我年幼無知的時候以為捕手也
02/28 04:27, 34F

02/28 04:27, , 35F
要是巨砲XD
02/28 04:27, 35F

02/28 04:48, , 36F
Piazza自從93年站穩躲人的先發之後..當了10年的最佳
02/28 04:48, 36F

02/28 04:50, , 37F
捕手 Posada比其他捕手算很強了..但還差Piazza一截
02/28 04:50, 37F

02/28 04:51, , 38F
稍微想一下補手連續10年都ops超過.9 是什麼概念...
02/28 04:51, 38F

02/28 04:51, , 39F
最近鄉民狂捧的貓主席..至少還要蹲7年才有機會超越
02/28 04:51, 39F

02/28 04:53, , 40F
普遍預計..貓主席蹲到35歲機會非常低...
02/28 04:53, 40F

02/28 04:54, , 41F
至於Montero 只要在捕手這位置成長到.85的火力
02/28 04:54, 41F

02/28 04:54, , 42F
大概就非常讓人感到高興了
02/28 04:54, 42F

02/28 23:30, , 43F
我明明就是說"蹲捕" 科科
02/28 23:30, 43F

03/02 21:23, , 44F
LF可是要會跑... 會跑的捕手可是非常少...
03/02 21:23, 44F

03/02 21:24, , 45F
LF比起1B 更難守一點
03/02 21:24, 45F

03/03 14:36, , 46F
樓上,鐵爺在你背後 他很火
03/03 14:36, 46F

12/28 13:48, 7年前 , 47F
普遍預計..貓主席蹲到 http://yofuk.com
12/28 13:48, 47F
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