Re: [外電] Steve McCatty believes fewer K's = W's

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※ 引述《ug945 (ug945)》之銘言： : Nationals pitching coach Steve McCatty believes fewer K's equals more W's, : and so far so good 簡單翻譯一下，有誤解處請指正：國民投教麥卡提(McCatty)相信「少拿一些三振就會多拿一些勝投」的理論 : http://goo.gl/jXGLz : WASHINGTON – The man who oversees baseball's best pitching staff does not : care for the position's most glamorous statistic. In fact the thought of it : makes Steve McCatty recoil. He crosses his arms. His head shakes. A sour : expression crosses his face. : "Strikeouts are bull[bleep]," he says. : He scoffs. Such a waste, he implies. 聯盟最優投手群的投教--麥卡提--並不怎麼在意投手最迷人的數據--三振數。「三振有個屁用!」其實，他想表達的是三振不過是浪費體力的玩意罷了。 : It is late in the morning on the last day before the All-Star break and his : Washington Nationals pitchers are grabbing their gloves in the clubhouse, : heading to the field. He watches as they walk by – Stephen Strasburg with : the sizzling fastball, Gio Gonzalez with the swooping curve, Tyler Clippard, : who is the current closer – strikeout specialists all should they want to : be, and McCatty says the empty swings aren't always worth the effort. He'd : rather have a nice, quick ground ball to shortstop. : That seems so much more efficient. 國民隊的陣容裡有火球小史，能投犀利曲球的Gio，還有現任關門的眼鏡哥，這些人全都想成為三振專家。不過在麥卡提的觀念裡面，與其費力讓打者揮空，倒不如讓他打出一個遊擊方向滾地來得有效率。 : "If you try to strike out every hitter you're going to burn up pitches," says : McCatty, the Nationals pitching coach. "Look, just do the math. If you're : taking 15-20 pitches to get through every inning that will multiply fast." : He would rather his pitchers let the hitters hit the ball. This is an : organizational emphasis of the Nationals. Instead of two strikeouts in an : inning, how about just one along with a pop-up to second base? It's just : easier, he says. 「如果你想三振每一位打者，那你的投球數一定爆掉。這是很簡單的數學問題，每局都投上15~20球，用球數肯定累積得很快。」所以他寧願讓打者擊中球，這也是他對國民隊員下達的重點觀念；比起兩個三振，他倒覺得一個三振加上一個軟弱二壘飛球的組合比較簡單一些。 : The irony of all this is the Nationals do strike people out. They get lots of : strikeouts. The team with the National League's best record is also fifth in : the majors in strikeouts with 693. Strasburg alone has 128, Gonzalez 118. : But they could probably strike out more. A lot more. Which is where McCatty's : words seem to have settled in and Washington's pitching has it unexpectedly : in first place in the National League East. McCatty, for instance, was one of : the strongest voices pushing Strasburg to stop trying to throw 100 mph and : work at a lower, more sustainable figure like 96. The effort needed to throw : harder wasn't making Strasburg that much better. 諷剌的是國民隊投手還是很會投三振。全隊投手群拿下693K不但是國聯最多，在整個大聯盟也排得到第5名，其中小史 128K，Gio 118K。其實他們原本可以拿下更多三振，不過在麥卡提的觀念灌輸下已經有比較保守了，但還是整個國聯東區最棒的。麥卡提如何要求投手減少三振?舉例來說，他強烈要求小史不要追求100mile的速球，而是稍微把球速降低，降到一個可以讓控球穩定的水準…大約96mile左右就好(這叫慢?!) 因為為了催球速所花費的力氣，並不會對小史帶來什麼益處。 : Strasburg's fastball is going to overwhelm most hitters. Why make it more : intimidating? The goal, in the end, is to get people out, not make the : catcher's glove crack extra hard. : Which is what McCatty keeps trying to say. : If the goal is to get outs, why not get them as quickly as you can? : "The odds are in your favor as a pitcher," he says, pointing out that most : hitters fail more than 70 percent of the time. "It's like Las Vegas. If the : odds weren't in Las Vegas's favor, the buildings would all be two feet tall." : McCatty was never much of a strikeout pitcher. Back when he played for the : Oakland A's in the early 1980s, he struck out fewer than five hitters every 9 : innings, while twice winning 14 games – the second of which led the American : League in a strike-shortened season. He remembers teammate Rick Langford : pitching complete games while throwing fewer than than 100 pitches. : "You give up a couple of hits or you give up a home run, I don't care," : McCatty says. "If you pitch quickly and throw strikes, you are going to get : outs. 「小史的速球足以壓制大部分的打者，何苦還要再往上催出可怕的火球呢? 反正我們最終的目標是製造出局數，又不是轟炸捕手的手套。」這就是麥卡提一直強調的，如果我們的目的是出局數，那何不用快一點的方式得到它呢? 「如果這是一場賭局，那一定是投手比較佔贏面，因為打者有超過7成的機率打不好。就好像在賭城(拉斯維加斯)，如果贏面不是在莊家這邊，那怎麼可能會蓋出這麼多豪華賭場呢?」 (按：不知道他是不是用打擊率2~3成去反推出來的結論-_-!) 麥卡提本人就不是個奪三振型的投手，80年代在運動家服役時，K/9值差不多5而己，卻有兩季拿下超過14勝，其中一年還是罷工造成的縮水球季。他記得他的隊友Rick Langford拿下完投時經常用球數不到100球，這形成了他如下的觀念：「你可能讓對方打出一些安打甚至全壘打，但這無關緊要；但只要你好球一球接一球的投，總是會拿到出局數的。」 : "If I'm taking the pressure off by saying to a pitcher, 'Give up a hit or a : home run, fine. I don't care.' " 「如果我要抒解投手的壓力，我就會說『就投給他打，無論安打或全壘打都沒關係』。」 : Yes, McCatty understands, strikeouts matter to people. Strikeouts make : headlines. Strikeouts impress fans. Strikeouts show dominance. Strikeouts are : often seen as the best measure of how well a pitcher can overwhelm hitters. : "It's an arbitration stat, I get that," he says. : He also understands there are times when strikeouts are necessary. For : instance, there was a moment last weekend when Gonzalez had a runner on : second with less than two outs in the middle of a 1-1 tie. To McCatty that : was a perfect time for a strikeout. This way you get an out while not : allowing the runner to advance or risk a ground ball getting through the : infield for a hit. But, he adds, there aren't that many times you really need : a strikeout. 麥卡提當然知道人們很重視三振。因為三振數總能搏得版面，讓球迷印象深刻，能投三振的投手感覺就很有宰制力。是以三振數最常被拿來評估一個投手是否具有壓制能力。但他覺得這個數據的意義還有待商榷。當然他也覺得有些時機是很需要三振的。例如在平手的局面、得點圈有跑者、又還沒兩出局的情況下就需要三振的演出。因為此時讓打者擊出的滾地球，通常都有推進效果，甚至有穿出內野防區的風險；而三振所製造的出局數，就可以免除這些風險。話說回來，這種局面又不多，所以他再次強調，三振數並不需要投這麼多啦! : Perhaps McCatty's words matter more this summer because the Nationals need : their pitching staff to be as fresh as it can be in the season's final three : months. Pitching is what has made Washington the best team in the National : League. So good, that when manager Davey Johnson was asked to assess his : pitching staff the other day he said: "All I can say is stay healthy." : Yet while the Nats lead the majors in numerous pitching categories including : ERA, batting average against, walks-to-hits-to- innings pitched ratio, they : are in the bottom third of key offensive statistics including runs scored and : on-base percentage. If the Nationals are going to make their first postseason : in Washington they will have to rely on their pitching. And that's going to : be more challenging as the summer heat wears everybody down and Strasburg : creeps ever closer to the 160-inning threshold the organization has set as : his limit in his first full year back from Tommy John surgery. 或許麥卡提的這番言論對國民接下來的賽事很關鍵，因為國民隊必須保持他們的投手戰力能夠撐到季末；因為國民目前能成為國東龍頭就是因為投手投得好。 DJ對於投手群的所能說的只有一句話：「身體健康最重要!」儘管國民投手群無論在ERA、被打擊率、WHIP等數據上都名列前矛，國民打線疲弱還是一個問題，因為他們得分、上壘率等攻擊數據是排在倒數三名內的。所以如果國民隊想爭取首度進入季後賽，就必須仰賴他們的投手。不過夏天的熱浪好像讓投手群表現有點失常，而小史更有160局的限制在。 (按：這段提到的東西其實有點舊了，打線狀況也改善很多。不過作者應該是要強調國民的投手不能倒，要省球!) : Without Strasburg there is going to be more pressure on everybody else and : therefore a need for the staff to conserve pitches. : "Outs are outs," McCatty says, still standing in the Nationals clubhouse. "If : you don't need the strikeout, why use all the pitches to get one? I'd rather : win 2-1 and have our pitcher strike out two and walk four than lose 2-1 and : have our pitcher strike out 13 and walk one." : He looks around the room. His pitchers have all left for the field. : He is left to stand here: a lone voice crying for sanity in a world obsessed : with strikeouts. : And he can only hope they are listening. 小史若缺陣，對整個球隊來說無疑是個壓力，所以麥卡提希望大家的用球數能精簡一點。「我們要的就是出局數! 如果三振不是必需品，那為什麼要用這麼多球去換一個三振? 我寧願你們投出2K、4個BB，拿下一場2比1的勝利；而不要投出13K、1BB卻吞下1比2的敗戰。」不過當他說完這席話，投手們早就走出去練投了...... 他希望他們能聽得進去… 心得： 1.滾球比三振有效率的道理，台灣人都懂的… 說不定Wang就是符合麥卡提的觀念才一直給他調整的機會…要把握啊! 2.原來麥卡提每次上投手丘就是叫投手放給對方打?! DJ有同意讓他賭嗎?! XDD -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.134.141.156