[乳莫] JO ←→ VC

看板PACERS (印第安那 溜馬)作者 (Mr.31)時間18年前 (2008/01/21 02:13), 編輯推噓32(32025)
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http://www.northjersey.com/sports/nets/13927772.html Nets talk to Pacers about Carter for O'Neal Acquiring All-Star power forward Jermaine O'Neal remains a possibility for the Nets, but could cost them their own All-Star, Vince Carter. The Nets and Pacers, who discussed a multiplayer swap involving O'Neal in June, renewed talks recently, according to league sources familiar with the conversations. The new proposal would send Carter, Marcus Williams and Jamaal Magloire to Indiana for O'Neal. But O'Neal has a bone bruise in his knee that will sideline him at least two weeks. Nothing is imminent, though, as O'Neal's health and $64 million salary through the 2009-10 season are real deterrents for the Nets. In June, the Pacers wanted Richard Jefferson – provided they found a third team to take him -- Williams and Nenad Krstic for O'Neal. The Nets countered by removing Krstic and adding Jason Collins and Indiana declined. The recent proposal seems riskier for the Nets. Carter has been inconsistent since signing his four-year, $61.8 million deal in July. But the Nets would be giving up their go-to guy and best and most clutch shooter for a big man with knee issues and arguably enduring his worst season in seven years. Plus, the Nets would become a luxury tax-paying team. O'Neal, 29, makes $19.7 million this season. The Nets would rather have Indiana take Collins (two years, $12.3 million) instead of Magloire (one year, $4 million) to alleviate the luxury-tax hit. But the Pacers don't want Collins. Another possible glitch is Nets owner Bruce Ratner's affinity for Carter. Ratner may not want to part with the shooting guard. O'Neal, who is averaging 15.3 points and 7.5 rebounds, is a post presence -- when healthy -- and teamed with Jason Kidd may make the Nets better equipped to play the Celtics, Pistons and Magic in the playoffs. But the Nets likely would miss Carter's shooting, especially if O'Neal were to draw double teams in the post. The Nets have to decide whether O'Neal, when healthy, makes them appreciably better and worth not only paying tax on, but giving up Carter. 主菜是小歐跟Vince Carter。 小歐 - 19.7M Carter - 13.3M 最有可能的就是吃掉Jamaal Magoire的4M或是Jason Collins的6.1M來補足薪資, 問題是VC的約到11-12球季,沒理由我們還會吃大三零的約。 最理想的就是如報導所言:JO ←→ VC+ Magoire+Marcus Williams, 不過小歐最新的傷勢可能使得談判籌碼降低。搞不好變成1換2。 Sean Williams或是Josh Boone籃網應該都不會想交易。 Antoine Wright又是個SF我們也不需要。 撇開不談,如果半人半神來到隊上的話, 那陣容就變成 C 佛爺/莫非/Magoire PF 小葛/Ike SF 小鄧/小威/Graham SG Carter/Rush/阿丹 PG 小汀/低能/阿丹/Owens 當然Carter的長約以及他的是風險, 但好歹他也是全明星級的人物。 如果把小歐交易出去的話,VC是我贊同的人選。 能飛能切有外線,很適合歐比王。 -- 只需要認識我的文字 http://www.wretch.cc/blog/indypacers -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 218.160.82.158

01/21 02:16, , 1F
換吧!我想多看點溜馬能在十大好球的畫面說
01/21 02:16, 1F

01/21 02:17, , 2F
還有,我們應該可以丟個大哈當做配菜 科科~~
01/21 02:17, 2F

01/21 02:24, , 3F
carter來是很好 但是我想看Rush跟阿丹啊
01/21 02:24, 3F

01/21 02:27, , 4F
籃網現在 J.Boone+S.Williams 的內線組合運作得還不錯
01/21 02:27, 4F

01/21 02:27, , 5F
換小歐意義好像不大??
01/21 02:27, 5F

01/21 02:29, , 6F
重點是他們想擺脫VC的長約 文末有寫
01/21 02:29, 6F

01/21 02:30, , 7F
小歐在禁區更具進攻火力..搭配鋒線的RJ以及Kidd
01/21 02:30, 7F

01/21 02:32, , 8F
也對,Boone和Williams的進攻技巧都還滿粗糙的,不過這樣一
01/21 02:32, 8F

01/21 02:33, , 9F
換,Nets的前場很強,但是後場很空虛
01/21 02:33, 9F

01/21 02:34, , 10F
也許三劍客打那麼久了..戰績還是沒起色..
01/21 02:34, 10F

01/21 02:34, , 11F
會讓老闆想改變陣容..
01/21 02:34, 11F

01/21 02:35, , 12F
前陣子看籃網,覺得VC往內切的慾望降低很多,很多有機會殺
01/21 02:35, 12F

01/21 02:36, , 13F
進去來個Top10的大灌籃機會,它會選擇在外線出手投掉,這不
01/21 02:36, 13F

01/21 02:36, , 14F
太好...
01/21 02:36, 14F

01/21 02:39, , 15F
所以說 VC的心態以及合約是要冒險的地方
01/21 02:39, 15F

01/21 02:40, , 16F
對方當然也是賭小歐的健康..2方都在賭博
01/21 02:40, 16F

01/21 02:42, , 17F
都是一堆換完以後兩隊感覺還是在浮浮沉沉的交易
01/21 02:42, 17F

01/21 02:42, , 18F
而且VC來的話可以救一下票房..Conseco人真的太少了 T.T
01/21 02:42, 18F

01/21 07:48, , 19F
換吧...吃大樹合約也沒差...
01/21 07:48, 19F

01/21 07:58, , 20F
換吧 把溜馬打造成搖擺人大隊吧XD
01/21 07:58, 20F

01/21 09:08, , 21F
換吧 推救票房...至少有吸引人看球的地方...
01/21 09:08, 21F

01/21 09:20, , 22F
現在VC也很少上十大了 對票房刺激也降低很多
01/21 09:20, 22F

01/21 09:21, , 23F
事實是這樣 大家還願意換嗎!?
01/21 09:21, 23F

01/21 10:07, , 24F
願..意.. 與其打成這樣 不如換個方式試看看 但是呢
01/21 10:07, 24F

01/21 10:07, , 25F
小歐對於籃網的用處並不大 我是覺得應該是多方交易吧
01/21 10:07, 25F

01/21 10:08, , 26F
所以到底是不是carter來呢? 或者是別的all-star來?
01/21 10:08, 26F

01/21 10:31, , 27F
如果換不到Sean Williams或者Boone,那禁區.....
01/21 10:31, 27F

01/21 10:46, , 28F
不用擔心禁區 有沒有小歐 我們都習慣了 沒差
01/21 10:46, 28F

01/21 10:57, , 29F
換吧換吧 自從神米退休 黑洞歐又每年嘴砲 已經快對溜馬冷感了
01/21 10:57, 29F

01/21 11:15, , 30F
我是VC直屬親衛隊 提前來報到XD VC自從籃網腦殘教練設計戰術
01/21 11:15, 30F

01/21 11:17, , 31F
以RJ為主攻點後 VC多半以空手跑位及傳導為主 (普林斯頓戰術)
01/21 11:17, 31F

01/21 11:18, , 32F
大鳥很喜歡長約@@
01/21 11:18, 32F

01/21 11:19, , 33F
切入和投射的欲望都變低 威脅力也大減 這樣你們能接受嗎
01/21 11:19, 33F

01/21 11:21, , 34F
覺得我們把小孩換來會比較好..控球才是我們的大問題吧..!
01/21 11:21, 34F

01/21 11:21, , 35F
但是他本季的數據還算是不錯的(因為出手,要犯規次數少)得分降
01/21 11:21, 35F

01/21 11:22, , 36F
唉.........還要繼續看這種無聊溜馬戲碼多久........
01/21 11:22, 36F

01/21 11:22, , 37F
怪不得主場球迷都不買票了, 沒什麼期待....
01/21 11:22, 37F

01/21 11:22, , 38F
不然每次看小丁被打爆.三不五時又腦充血..再有天份也要有
01/21 11:22, 38F

01/21 11:23, , 39F
要VC,我情願要雙蛋
01/21 11:23, 39F

01/21 11:23, , 40F
個好老師來帶一下才會進步吧..不然看他這樣打.真是......
01/21 11:23, 40F

01/21 11:23, , 41F
VC擅長與禁區長人內外高低搭配 請問蹓馬走了小歐 還有這種人嗎
01/21 11:23, 41F

01/21 11:35, , 42F
VC擅長與禁區長人內外高低搭配?他之前在暴龍和籃網都沒有長
01/21 11:35, 42F

01/21 11:36, , 43F
人搭配呀,怎麼看到的呀?請教s1y大說
01/21 11:36, 43F

01/21 11:35, , 44F
沒有嗎? T.T
01/21 11:35, 44F

01/21 11:39, , 45F
之前Krstic很威的時候 高低位擋拆用的很順 詳細可以去VC版爬文
01/21 11:39, 45F

01/21 11:44, , 46F
人家籃網沒理由把大三零換走 VC來就很開心了 要求不多
01/21 11:44, 46F

01/21 12:55, , 47F
別人都主動提了,是該動作了
01/21 12:55, 47F

01/21 13:11, , 48F
想請教一下大家大貓是怎麼了?他有這麼不堪用嗎?
01/21 13:11, 48F

01/21 14:13, , 49F
變好變爛都不要緊..來點變化吧!
01/21 14:13, 49F

01/21 14:26, , 50F
大貓感覺是心態問題...這種很難救 @_@
01/21 14:26, 50F

01/21 14:28, , 51F
大貓不是心態問題 是教練根本不給他上
01/21 14:28, 51F

01/21 14:30, , 52F
但是在來籃網之前 似乎也被拓荒者嫌就是了
01/21 14:30, 52F

01/21 16:57, , 53F
....................應該是乳摸
01/21 16:57, 53F

01/21 21:27, , 54F
VC穿溜馬球衣怎麼感覺怪怪的@@
01/21 21:27, 54F

01/22 00:48, , 55F
「你這是在賭,拿戰績在賭」「打球本身就是賭!」
01/22 00:48, 55F

01/22 00:50, , 56F
大鳥是對的
01/22 00:50, 56F

01/22 00:50, , 57F
小歐: 安心養傷
01/22 00:50, 57F
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