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[外電] ESPN Bill Simmons 對Suns 與 Nash 的評價

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Bill Simmons 是ESPN 網站當紅的專欄作家，像上次很紅的老虎的蘋果動新聞YOUTUBE， 就有很多人寫說是看Simmons的Twitter 去看的。他雖然總是猜錯，可是文章風趣，影響力 是非常大的。 Dudley 跟 Simmons 還會互相在對方的Twitter 留言，Dudley 還幫Simmons 貼了張照片 在Nash 的更衣室櫃上。 Dudley has made me like BC.. RT @JaredDudley619: Ok I put it in his locker today lol see for yourself.. http://twitpic.com/17l3lu 11:53 AM Mar 9th via UberTwitter Hey @JaredDudley619 - you gotta print this picture out and stick it in Nash's locker. http://bit.ly/8YqzK2 這次他的季後賽預告最後的最後寫了一段關於太陽還有Nash 的評論我想翻譯一下。 http://0rz.com/yRDW I can prove that chemistry matters 我可以證明一個團隊有化學變化(團隊精神)是重要的 Group 1 (has it): Cleveland, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Atlanta, Portland, Milwaukee, San Antonio and Phoenix. 有化學變化的球隊 Group 2 (doesn't have it): Boston, Los Angeles. 沒有化學變化的球隊 Group 3 (unclear): Orlando, Utah, Miami, Charlotte, Chicago, Denver. 不清楚的 Those are the 16 playoff teams. Thought that was interesting. We're clearly gravitating toward some sort of Chemistry Era. 這些是16隊有進季後賽的，這是很有趣的現象，我們正朝著化學反應(團結力量強)的 時代前進。 A great example: Wednesday night, Phoenix at Utah. If the Suns lose, they land a 4-seed and a preferable matchup with Denver (which plays an open style that favors Phoenix). If they win, they jump to a 3-seed and a tougher matchup with Portland (more size, slowdown style, great crowd). General manager Steve Kerr heads to the locker room that night thinking, "We should bench the older guys [Nash and Hill], play our subs and settle for the 4-seed." What happens? Everyone wants to play. Better yet, they're excited to play. Kerr talks it over with Alvin Gentry; they decide to go for it and end up winning by 20. In their euphoric locker room afterward, Grant Hill tells Kerr the Suns have better chemistry than any team he's ever played for. And he means it. 舉例來說：星期六晚上 Phoenix 在 Utah 比賽。如果Phoenix 輸了，那他們就是第四種子 ，會跟對他們比較有利的，主要是開放式戰術的Denver打。如果贏了成了第三種子，就跟 人高馬大，慢打外加超強主場的Portland打。Kerr 去更衣室時想說『我們應該讓老將(Nash 跟Hill)坐坐板凳，主打二輪，拿第四種子就算了。 』結果呢大家都鬥志高昂，每個都想 打。Kerr跟 Gentry談 過後，想說那管不住，就隨意啦！結果就贏了20分，在熱血激揚的 更衣室裡 Hill 跟 Kerr 說 Suns 是他打過最有團隊精神的一隊，而Hill是真心的。 Those are the stories I need to hear about my title contenders. As far as I can tell, only six teams have a chance to win the title: Cleveland (the favorite); Dallas, Los Angeles and Orlando (the contenders); Utah (the wild card) and Phoenix (the people's choice). If this truly was a Chemistry Season, that means Cleveland would play the winner of the Dallas-Phoenix Round 2 series in the Finals. Up until Robin Lopez got hurt, I would have picked Phoenix mostly because of Nash and Amare Stoudemire, who quietly spent the past three months becoming the guy who torched Duncan in the 2005 playoffs again. If Lopez can come back for Round 2, this is Nash's best chance for a title. My favorite subplot of the playoffs. See … 要爭冠的球隊都應該要有這種傳說出現，對我而言只有六個球隊有機會贏得冠軍： Cleveland (大熱門); Dallas, Los Angeles and Orlando (有機會); Utah (外卡) and Phoenix (the people's choice 最佳人氣獎). 如果這真的是默契大考驗，那應該就是 Cleveland 跟 Dallas-Phoenix 的贏家打進總決賽。 直到 Lopez 受傷前，我是選 Phoenix，因為Nash 跟 Amare 已經在過去三個月內，靜悄悄的又成為想當年在 2005 季後賽灼傷Duncan的最佳拍檔。如果 Lopez 可以在第二輪回來，那這會是 Nash 最接近冠軍戒指的機會。 I can prove that Steve Nash was a worthy No. 4 MVP choice this year 我可以證明說 Nash 是 MVP的第四人選　(Simmons 寫過很多文章攻擊Nash 的不善防守， 說Nash 不該得MVP，近年來有轉向誇獎Nash。但說到MVP 還是會覺得只會進攻沒有防守的 Nash 不夠格) Name me a star player with a harder job this season. His shooting guard went into a funk for half the season. His sixth man missed half the year. His meal-ticket power forward obsessed over his own future for three months and nearly got dumped at the deadline. He's had two starting centers, and just when the second one was hitting his stride he got knocked out indefinitely. He had to carry the offense in crunch time for half the season (his 82games.com "clutch" numbers: 43.4 points per 48 minutes, compared to 27.5 for Amare); not really his game, and besides, he's too freaking old to do that. Or at least, he should be. None of it mattered. Phoenix won 54 games and has the most momentum of any Western team heading into the playoffs. 沒有人可以提出有任何明星球員的工作有比Nash的困難。他的射球後衛大半季都2266 的。 他的第六人有大半年缺席。他的長期飯票花了三個月在關於自我未來的問題上鑽牛角尖， 差點在最後截止日期前被賣了。他有兩個先發中鋒，就當第二個有起步時，那個中鋒就受 傷了，歸期不定。他在關鍵時刻必須扛起來，在 82games.com (知名的統計數據網站) 他的 Clutch number 是43.4 高於 Amare 的 27.5。這真的不該是他的，而他該老到做不 到才對。但這些都不重要， Phoenix 贏了54 場比賽，而且是西區中闖進季後賽前最勢如 破竹的一隊。 The Suns' season could have fallen apart at a bunch of different points. It never did. Nash gets the credit. I remember hearing he re-signed last summer for three more years and thinking, "Why the hell would he do that?" The Suns seemed like a sinking ship. In America, we're used to superstars who find themselves stuck on a sinking ship, then bolt for greener pastures or selfishly demand a trade without considering the ramifications of that request. (Basically, they just announced to their teammates, "I don't think you guys are good enough to play with me." The situation immediately becomes irreparable. They don't care. They just want to leave. It's like self-sabotage.) Nash never would have done that. He's Canadian. He's loyal. He's the leader. Leaders are supposed to lead. 太陽的球季在很多時刻，都差一點報銷掉了，但都沒發生，這都是Nash 的功勞。我記得當 他在去年簽了三年續約時，我想說他瘋了。太陽已經是沉船了。在美國我們都習慣說明星 球員一看到船要沉了就馬上要求要換船，根本不考慮後果。(基本上就是跟隊友說『你們不 配跟我打球』，狀況馬上就一發不可開交，無法挽回，而他們也不在乎。他們只想走人。 這跟自斷任督二脈沒兩樣。] 但Nash 不是這樣的人，他是加拿大人，他有義氣，他是 領導，領導就該領導球隊才對。 So he stayed, and he led, and they followed, and now they're here. 所以他留下來帶領大家，大家也跟隨著他，現在到達了這裡。 I thought it was his greatest season because of the degree of difficulty: Thirty-six-year-olds shouldn't be milking their statistical primes (16.5 PPG, 11.0 APG, 51% FG, 43% 3FG, 94% FT, unprecedented numbers for a point guard his age), performing open-heart surgery on teammates (in this case, Amare) and turning fringe playoff teams into explosive contenders. As recently as this winter, Steve Nash probably thought his Finals chances had come and gone, remembered the bad breaks in 2005 (Joe Johnson's broken face), 2006 (Amare's knee), 2007 (the suspensions) and 2008 (Duncan's 3), then said to himself, "I wish I could press the RESET button and get one more chance." Consider it pressed. 我覺得這是他最棒的一季，因為困難度。36 歲的人不應該達到他們的統計巔峰。達到前無 古控衛的 16.5 PPG, 11.0 APG, 51% FG, 43% 3FG, 94% FT，幫隊友做了開心手術 (Amare) ，把勉強可進季後賽的隊變成奪冠黑馬。就在這不久前的冬天，Nash 大概還覺得 說他的奪冠夢已經來了又走了，想想這些年的衰事：2005 Joe Johnson 的毀面、2006 Amare 的膝蓋、2007 年的禁賽、2008 Duncan 的奪命三分球， 然後自己跟自己說，我真想重新開機從來一次，就當他按過了。 Either way, his brilliant 2010 season reinvented him historically. Now we're looking at a career. Ten straight top-notch years, nine 50-win seasons, two MVPs (whether you agreed with the choices or not), seven All-Star games, three first-team All-NBAs, the best shooting percentages in the history of the point guard position, and pole position for the "guard everyone in his generation would have loved playing with most" contest over Kidd. A Finals appearance would be the cherry on the Steve Nash First-Ballot Hall of Famer Sundae. As always, stay tuned. 無論如何，他2010 絕妙的球季已經改變了他歷史的評價，現在我們看的是一個生涯。連十 年的上等年，九個50+勝球季，兩座MVP (不管你同意與否)，七次明星賽，三次全NBA第一隊 ，史上最佳準度的控球後衛，打敗了 Kidd 成為 『如果你要跟這一年代的後衛打，你最希 望跟誰同隊打球』的不二人選。一個總決賽的出場將是 Nash NBA 名人堂第一輪投票單 聖代上的櫻桃 (錦上添花)。就跟以前一樣，繼續收看，不要轉台。 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 我第一次翻譯這麼長，也是最近才開始逛太陽板的，到現在還搞不清楚球員的暱稱， 翻得不好，請見諒。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 69.104.16.3
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04/18 17:28, , 1F
總冠軍　衝啊!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/18 17:28, 1F
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04/18 17:33, , 2F
今年又180了~衝吧太陽 衝個總冠軍下來吧!!!!
04/18 17:33, 2F
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04/18 17:35, , 3F
看完為什麼有點想哭 我很榮幸可以看到NASH打球
04/18 17:35, 3F
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04/18 17:40, , 4F
衝啊!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!太陽總冠軍!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/18 17:40, 4F
※ 編輯: neak 來自: 69.104.16.3 (04/18 17:45)
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04/18 17:47, , 5F
除了按1我找不到其他方法來表達我心目中對老大的仰慕
04/18 17:47, 5F
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04/18 17:48, , 6F
今年 一定要總冠軍!!!!!!!!!給NASH一個總冠軍!!!!!
04/18 17:48, 6F
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04/18 17:50, , 7F
總冠軍!!!!總冠軍!!!!!!!!!
04/18 17:50, 7F
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04/18 17:52, , 8F
推 我的眼角泛起了淚光..... 不求多 只求一個總冠軍
04/18 17:52, 8F
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04/18 18:01, , 9F
Nash...加油吧!
04/18 18:01, 9F
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04/18 18:05, , 10F
給兩老戒指!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/18 18:05, 10F
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04/18 18:06, , 11F
Nash Hill 湘..不是 太陽有你們真好Q_Q
04/18 18:06, 11F
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04/18 18:07, , 12F
Nash老大 Q.Q
04/18 18:07, 12F
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04/18 18:10, , 13F
MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/18 18:10, 13F
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04/18 18:11, , 14F
看完真的很想哭,nash加油,你值得的!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/18 18:11, 14F
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04/18 18:15, , 15F
老大快帶領大家拿總冠軍!!!!!!!!!
04/18 18:15, 15F
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04/18 18:16, , 16F
熱血推
04/18 18:16, 16F
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04/18 18:20, , 17F
推翻譯 不過這個"化學反應"的意思跟"默契"好像有差
04/18 18:20, 17F
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04/18 18:23, , 18F
gogogogogogo
04/18 18:23, 18F
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04/18 18:24, , 19F
Q_Q NASH哥!
04/18 18:24, 19F
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04/18 18:24, , 20F
你說得沒錯，我國文不太好，可是覺得說隊伍有
04/18 18:24, 20F
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04/18 18:26, , 21F
化學反應好像不順。這通常是說一個隊和樂融融的意思
04/18 18:26, 21F
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04/18 18:30, , 22F
只能推了!! 給nash一枚戒指吧!!
04/18 18:30, 22F
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04/18 18:31, , 23F
衝吧!!!!!!!!
04/18 18:31, 23F
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04/18 18:37, , 24F
NASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/18 18:37, 24F
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04/18 18:40, , 25F
SUNS今年一定要得冠軍!!!
04/18 18:40, 25F
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04/18 18:43, , 26F
快給NASH一個冠軍戒!!!
04/18 18:43, 26F
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04/18 18:49, , 27F
G J
04/18 18:49, 27F
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04/18 18:52, , 28F
想要太陽拿一個冠軍 幫Nash跟Hill還有我圓夢快點XD
04/18 18:52, 28F
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04/18 19:08, , 29F
這幾年走來老大真的始終如一個領導著各位 真正領袖
04/18 19:08, 29F
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04/18 19:10, , 30F
大推 小缺點翻"跟誰一隊"比較不會會錯意
04/18 19:10, 30F
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04/18 19:14, , 31F
好感動！！！！！！！！太陽加油！！！！！
04/18 19:14, 31F
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04/18 19:16, , 32F
推!!!!!!! 看完泛淚XDDD
04/18 19:16, 32F
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04/18 19:35, , 33F
淚推老大
04/18 19:35, 33F
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04/18 19:39, , 34F
生在這個時代 能看到NASH 打球 真好
04/18 19:39, 34F
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04/18 19:41, , 35F
有老大真好....!!!
04/18 19:41, 35F
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04/18 19:42, , 36F
我們過去幾年季後賽真的很多怪事發生 QoQ
04/18 19:42, 36F
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04/18 19:47, , 37F
不論最後有無戒指，都無損Hill跟Nash籃球生涯的偉大
04/18 19:47, 37F
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04/18 19:48, , 38F
Hill入聯盟時我高中，現在我覺得我已經老態龍鍾，
04/18 19:48, 38F
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04/18 19:48, , 39F
但是Hill還在場上奔馳，1974年生的Nash也是，
04/18 19:48, 39F
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04/18 19:49, , 40F
用敬業的態度來打每一場球，這是他們最令我佩服之處
04/18 19:49, 40F
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04/18 20:03, , 41F
趕快給老大一個冠軍戒指吧!!!!!
04/18 20:03, 41F
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04/18 20:18, , 42F
NASH什麼都有了 就是差一沒冠軍戒 這是他應得的!
04/18 20:18, 42F
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04/18 20:19, , 43F
我真的覺得　在太陽板真是太幸福了
04/18 20:19, 43F
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04/18 20:19, , 44F
枚
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04/18 20:34, , 45F
如果老天有再看 就把前兩年欠NASH的冠軍戒環來吧
04/18 20:34, 45F
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04/18 20:36, , 46F
推!!!太陽總冠軍啊!!!!!!!
04/18 20:36, 46F
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04/18 21:14, , 47F
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04/18 21:24, , 48F
總冠軍!!!!!!
04/18 21:24, 48F
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04/18 21:27, , 49F
SUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/18 21:27, 49F
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04/18 21:32, , 50F
TD的三分球.....................
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04/18 22:17, , 51F
從05到08年的痛苦說得太好了...把Nash的戒指還來T__T
04/18 22:17, 51F
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04/18 22:27, , 52F
給nash哥一個戒指吧!!!!!!
04/18 22:27, 52F
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04/18 22:30, , 53F
給老大跟太陽一次總冠軍吧!!!!
04/18 22:30, 53F
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04/18 22:39, , 54F
化學反應就是解釋成融合良好 達到一加一大於二的結果
04/18 22:39, 54F
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04/18 22:40, , 55F
也可以像是做菜般 素材彼此提升味道 作者的意思就是
04/18 22:40, 55F
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04/18 22:40, , 56F
化學反應好的球隊 能打出比陣容名單還棒的比賽內容
04/18 22:40, 56F
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04/18 22:41, , 57F
翻化學效應或團隊效應都OK 太陽總冠軍阿
04/18 22:41, 57F
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04/18 22:41, , 58F
反之就像湖人季末那樣 帳面陣容跟打出來的內容不成
04/18 22:41, 58F
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04/18 22:41, , 59F
比例
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04/18 22:42, , 60F
怎麼都沒人推達利貼的那張圖啊 XD
04/18 22:42, 60F
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04/18 22:43, , 61F
心目中的結果 太打拓4：2 太打小牛4：3 太打金塊4：2
04/18 22:43, 61F
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04/18 22:44, , 62F
太打魔術 4：2
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04/18 22:58, , 63F
推外電也推二老 總冠軍我想打老鷹~(跟強弱和好不好打
04/18 22:58, 63F
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04/18 22:59, , 64F
無關 只是想看到總冠軍出現對轟戲碼 讓酸迷閉嘴
04/18 22:59, 64F
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04/18 23:03, , 65F
衝阿~gogogo
04/18 23:03, 65F
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04/18 23:39, , 66F
給老大一枚冠軍戒指吧!!!!!!!
04/18 23:39, 66F
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04/18 23:42, , 67F
能讓敵人態度轉為些許的支持 已經顯示了偉大︿　︿
04/18 23:42, 67F
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04/19 00:35, , 68F
那個照片......CUBAN跟DIRK ??
04/19 00:35, 68F
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04/19 01:45, , 69F
來吧 給老大一個冠軍
04/19 01:45, 69F
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04/19 02:04, , 70F
我愛NASH
04/19 02:04, 70F
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04/19 02:39, , 71F
推!真的很感動(淚)，許老大一個冠軍戒吧~~~~
04/19 02:39, 71F
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04/19 02:40, , 72F
太陽總冠軍!!
04/19 02:40, 72F
按照鄉民說的把默契改成化學變化，再加上一些小更改。我小時候就出國了，國文不好， 謝謝指教。 ※ 編輯: neak 來自: 69.104.16.3 (04/19 05:04)
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04/19 05:13, , 73F
太感人了，把戒指給老大!!!
04/19 05:13, 73F
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04/19 05:45, , 74F
生在這個時代真好!!!!!!!!!
04/19 05:45, 74F
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04/19 15:21, , 75F
厲害 我也小時候就出國了 但你的中文實在比我好太多
04/19 15:21, 75F
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