[外電] 太陽季後球員分析 Marcin Gortat
看板PHX-Suns (鳳凰城 太陽)作者sandwalk (sandwalker)時間14年前 (2012/05/29 23:38)推噓30(30推 0噓 12→)留言42則, 23人參與討論串1/1
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Here at Bright Side of the Sun we take the words TOTAL COVERAGE pretty dang
seriously.
While our beloved Suns are off taking nice vacations, we are still slaving
away, attempting to provide you all with first class Suns coverage.
So friends, without further adieu, we present you with the Phoenix Suns Season
in Review, 2011-12.
Up for discussion today is Marcin Gortat.
在「太陽光明面」站上,我們非常厭惡「概括」這個詞.
當我們所愛的太陽在享受美妙假期時, 我們仍像被努力帶來一流的太陽評論.
朋友們, 在道別前, 我們將繼續呈現上太陽隊11-12球季的總評.
今天討論的是Marcin Gortat
We've reached the end of our player analysis for this past season, and what
better way to cap off these reviews then with one of the more hotly debated
players on the roster? Some believe Marcin Gortat is an all-star center in the
making and should be a cornerstone of this team going forward, others believe
he is nothing more than a glorified role player whose stats are grossly
inflated due to playing with Steve Nash.
這是這系列季後球員分析的最後一篇,還有甚麼是把比較常引起討論的一員擺在最後更好
的結束方式? 有些人認為鍋貼是位逐漸成型的全明星中鋒, 應該被視為太陽未來的基石;
另一些人則認為他不過是個出色的配角球員, 其數據因為與老大搭配而被誇大了.
Will we finally get to the bottom of this argument once and for all? Probably
not...but hey, continue on after the jump anyway as I attempt to shed a little
light on the enigma that is the Polish Machine.
我們是否終於可以一勞永逸將這整系列討論下個結論? 可能還不行...但是就讓我們來試
著解開這具波蘭機器的謎吧… (這裡用了波蘭人二戰時率先破解德國Enigma加密機的梗)
When Marcin Gortat was still on the Orlando Magic playing behind Dwight Howard,
most analysts considered him the best back-up center in the league. Gortat
rarely got much of a chance to display his skills though because he was playing
behind arguably the best starting center in the league as well. However, after
a disappointing start to the 2010-11 season for Robin Lopez, the Suns jumped at
the opportunity to acquire Gortat in a deal that sent Hedo Turkoglu, Jason
Richardson, and Earl Clark to Orlando in return for Vince Carter's expiring
body contract, Mikael Pietrus, and of course the Polish Machine himself.
當鍋貼還在魔術擔任忠誠獸的替補時, 多數分析者都認為他是聯盟中最好的替補中鋒.鍋
貼卻很少有機會發揮他的球技,畢竟那時他得排在聯盟中最好的中鋒之後才能上場. 然而
, 在2010-11賽初肉汁令人失望的表現後, 太陽隊抓住了機會, 在送出火槍、綠茶、克拉
克到魔術的交易中換回卡特的到期合約、皮丘, 當然還有鍋貼.
But because Gortat had received so little playing time in the spotlight prior
to this trade, there were still quite a few relative unknowns about his game.
Many Suns' fans expected a hard-nosed, physical center on both offense and
defense...after-all, his name was the Polish Hammer, right?
但由於鍋貼在此次交易之前, 僅有少少的上場時間, 因此仍然有不少關於他的未知數.許
多太陽球迷對他的期待是: 頑強的, 能撐起攻守兩端的強力中鋒..., 畢竟, 當時他的外
號可不是波蘭大錘嗎?
Well as it turned out, not only were most of those preconceived notions about
his game wrong, so was his nickname (he prefers the Polish Machine, not the
Polish Hammer). While Gortat is regarded as a tough defensive player, his
offensive game turned out to be much more finesse than powerful. But that
wasn't necessarily a bad thing. Many fans and analysts were shocked by his
incredible agility and quickness around the hoop, and while he didn't dunk the
ball as much as many fans hoped, he surpassed most expectations about his
ability, and quickly became of of the most important components of the Suns'
offense.
結果, 不僅是大部分對他的球風先入為主的觀念是錯的, 連他的綽號也弄錯了(鍋貼自己
喜 歡波蘭機器勝過波蘭大錘). 雖然鍋貼的確是一個不錯的防守球員,他的進攻球風卻是
技巧 多於蠻力. 但這不是件壞事. 許多球迷和分析者都對他令人難以置信的靈活性和籃
下的速度感到震驚, 雖然他不像大多數球迷期望的那樣常常灌藍,但他卻遠遠超出了一開
始對他的期望並迅速成為太陽進攻最重要的組成部分.
At the start of the 2011-12 season, the expectations for Gortat's production
were high. And at least for the first half of the season, he not only met those
expectations, but exceeded them as well. Then came the second half of the
season... While the rest of the team was finally playing well together, Gortat
seemed to regress. The player so many fans considered an all-star snub was
suddenly being criticized from every angle.
在2011-12季初, 對鍋貼到底貢獻多少的期待是很高的. 至少在上半季, 他不僅達到這些
期望甚至更遠超於此. 然而很快到了下半季...雖然其他太陽球員終於磨合成功, 鍋貼卻
似乎反而倒退了.這個被很多球迷認為是全明星等級的球員一下子收到各種角度的批評.
But was he really playing as badly as it seemed?
但他真的打得像看起來的那麼糟嗎?
Here is a comparison of Gortat's stats before and after the all-star break:
以下是一個鍋貼全明星周末前後的數據比較:
Value G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT
Pre 34 34 1142 230 410 0 0 80
Post 32 32 972 197 359 0 2 83
Value FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF
Pre 119 90 355 33 26 53 51 73
Post 132 95 304 26 22 46 39 69
Value PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST
Pre 540 0.561 0.672 33.6 15.9 10.4 1
Post 477 0.549 0 0.629 30.4 14.9 9.5 0.8
The reason I wanted to show these stats in comparison to each other is that, in
all honesty, I expected a bigger disparity between them...as I'm sure most of
you who are reading this did as well.
我想在這裡列出這些數據比較結果的原因,老實說是因為我本預計它們之間的差距會更大
...而我敢肯定, 你們正好讀到這裡的的大多數人本來也是這麼想的.
While his first-half numbers are certainly better in every category, the drop
off in production for the second half of the season doesn't seem nearly as
drastic as our eyes may have perceived. Without going through each category,
what it all boiled down to is basically one less point, and one less rebound
per game.
雖然他上半季的數據在每個項目都比較好,但下半季的下降程度也不如我們所以為看到的
那麼急劇. 這裡不一一列舉每個項目,就簡單把這些數據歸納成平均得分和籃板稍稍變少
了.
So why did it seem like Gortat was so much less effective in the second half of
the season? I think it has more to do with perception than actual performance.
那麼, 為什麼鍋貼下半季看起來變得比較沒有效率了?我認為在這裡我們自己的感覺所佔
的因素大於鍋貼的實際表現.
His play before the all-star break stood out more in a positive way since he
and Steve Nash were basically the only two consistent players on the team.
Similarly, since the rest of the team finally started playing well at the same
time that Gortat's play began to decline, I believe it magnified his struggles
and made them seem worse than they actually were.
因為他和老大當時基本上是太陽唯二有著穩定表現的球員,他在全明星週前之前的表現看
起來更正面. 同樣的道理,由於之後在其餘太陽隊員的表現終於好轉時, 鍋貼的數據剛好
開始下降, 我相信因為這點放大了他的掙扎, 使它看起來比實際上要來得差.
Here are his overall basic stats for his last two seasons in Phoenix:
以下是他在太陽過去兩個賽季的基本數據:
Season Tm G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P
10-11 PHO 55 12 29.7 5.3 9.5 0.563 0
11-12 PHO 66 66 32 6.5 11.7 0.555 0
Career 296 83 20.5 3.4 6.1 0.555 0
Season 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB
10-11 0.1 0.25 2.3 3.2 0.731 2 7.3 9.3
11-12 0 0 2.5 3.8 0.649 2.8 7.2 10
Career 0 0.2 1.3 1.9 0.674 1.8 4.7 6.5
Season AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
10-11 1 0.5 1.3 1.2 2.5 13
11-12 0.9 0.7 1.5 1.4 2.2 15.4
Career 0.5 0.4 1.1 0.8 2 8.1
Here are his advanced stats for the last two seasons as well:
以下是他過去兩個賽季數據的深入分析:
Season Tm G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB%
10-11 PHO 55 1636 18.8 0.598 0.564 7.8 28.5
11-12 PHO 66 2114 21.2 0.578 0.555 10 25
Career 296 6069 18.2 0.581 0.555 10.4 25.8
Season TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg
10-11 18.1 5.2 0.9 3.2 9.7 18.3 117 106
11-12 17.6 4.8 1.2 3.4 9.3 20.8 115 103
Career 18.2 4.4 1 3.8 10.6 17.2 116 102
Season WS WS/48
10-11 5.1 0.151
11-12 7.6 0.172
Career 20.9 0.166
Data courtesy Basketball-Reference.com.
Looking at the above numbers, you can see that Gortat had a better overall
season last year than he did in his first partial season with the Suns.
看完上面的數據, 你可以發現鍋貼本季的整體表現比他剛到太陽的第一季要來得好.
His rebounding average was more or less the same while his points per game,
defensive rating, and PER were significantly better. In fact, he led the team
in all of those categories plus blocks and field goal percentage as well. Not
to mention, he was also the only player to play in all 66 games last season and
also led the team in minutes played.
他的平均籃板差不多, 而他的平均得分、防守效率值、PER效率值則顯著提高. 事實上,
他在所有這些項目再加上火鍋和投籃命中率上都領先全隊. 更何況,他是唯一一位本季66
場比賽都沒缺席並在上場時間也領先全隊的球員.
Here are his stats compared to the rest of the team:
以下面是他和其他隊員數據的比較:
Player G MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P%
Gortat 66 32 6.5 11.7 0.555 0 0 0
Dudley 65 31.1 4.8 9.9 0.485 1.2 3.2 0.383
Nash 62 31.6 4.8 9 0.532 0.9 2.3 0.39
Brown 59 23.7 4.3 10.1 0.42 1.2 3.2 0.362
Frye 64 26.1 4 9.6 0.416 1.4 4.1 0.346
Hill 49 28.1 4.1 9.2 0.446 0.3 1.1 0.264
Redd 51 15.1 2.8 7.1 0.4 0.8 2.6 0.318
Morris 63 19.5 2.8 6.9 0.399 0.7 2 0.347
Warrick 35 14.4 2.1 5.1 0.411 0 0.3 0.1
Telfair 60 14.9 2.4 5.7 0.412 0.6 1.8 0.314
Lopez 64 14 1.9 4.2 0.461 0 0 0
Price 36 14.4 1.4 3.6 0.377 0.4 1.2 0.295
Childress 34 14.4 1.4 2.9 0.485 0.1 0.7 0.167
Player FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL
Gortat 2.5 3.8 0.649 2.8 7.2 10 0.9 0.7
Dudley 1.8 2.5 0.726 1.5 3.2 4.6 1.7 0.8
Nash 2 2.3 0.894 0.4 2.6 3 10.7 0.6
Brown 1.4 1.7 0.808 0.6 2 2.7 1.2 0.7
Frye 1.1 1.3 0.89 1.1 4.8 5.9 1.4 0.7
Hill 1.7 2.2 0.761 0.6 2.9 3.5 2.2 0.8
Redd 1.7 2.2 0.793 0.3 1.2 1.5 0.6 0.3
Morris 1.2 1.7 0.717 1.1 3.3 4.4 1 0.7
Warrick 2.2 2.8 0.768 0.9 1.7 2.6 0.9 0.2
Telfair 0.9 1.1 0.791 0.3 1.2 1.5 2.3 0.7
Lopez 1.6 2.2 0.714 1.4 1.9 3.3 0.3 0.3
Price 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.5 1.1 1.6 1.9 0.9
Childress 0 0.1 0 0.9 1.9 2.8 1 0.4
Player BLK TOV PF PTS
Gortat 1.5 1.4 2.2 15.4
Dudley 0.3 1.1 1.6 12.7
Nash 0.1 3.7 0.9 12.5
Brown 0.3 1.1 1.1 11
Frye 1.1 1 2.8 10.5
Hill 0.6 1.3 1.8 10.2
Redd 0 0.7 0.6 8.2
Morris 0.7 1.1 2.8 7.4
Warrick 0.1 1 1 6.4
Telfair 0.2 1.1 2 6.1
Lopez 0.9 0.7 2 5.4
Price 0.1 1.3 2 3.6
Childress 0.2 0.3 1.1 2.9
Data courtesy Basketball-Reference.com.
Player G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB%
Gortat 66 2114 21.2 0.578 0.555 10 25 17.6
Nash 62 1961 20.3 0.625 0.581 1.5 9.1 5.3
Dudley 65 2020 15.4 0.575 0.547 5.4 11.4 8.4
Frye 64 1669 14.9 0.519 0.49 4.8 20.6 12.8
Lopez 64 895 15.2 0.526 0.461 11.5 14.8 13.2
Hill 49 1378 12.3 0.5 0.461 2.4 11.5 7
Brown 59 1400 13.6 0.507 0.477 3.1 9.5 6.3
Morris 63 1227 12.1 0.484 0.448 6.4 19.1 12.8
Telfair 60 895 13.2 0.495 0.461 2.5 8.9 5.7
Childress 34 491 11.1 0.501 0.505 7.2 14.6 10.9
Redd 51 770 13.9 0.511 0.458 2.1 9.1 5.6
Warrick 35 503 13.1 0.503 0.414 7 13.5 10.3
Price 36 517 8.4 0.465 0.427 4 8.2 6.1
Player AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg WS/48
Gortat 4.8 1.2 3.4 9.3 20.8 115 103 0.172
Nash 53.1 1 0.3 27.1 19.6 115 110 0.144
Dudley 8.8 1.3 0.7 9.1 17.7 115 109 0.121
Frye 8.3 1.3 3 8.8 19.3 106 104 0.106
Lopez 3.4 1 4.8 11.5 18.9 108 105 0.115
Hill 12.1 1.5 1.5 11.5 18.6 100 107 0.055
Brown 8.1 1.6 0.8 9.1 22.8 101 108 0.054
Morris 8.2 1.7 2.5 12.7 20.4 97 104 0.059
Telfair 24.5 2.4 1 15.5 22.3 99 107 0.058
Childress 10 1.5 0.9 8.3 10.1 114 107 0.092
Redd 7.1 0.9 0 8.3 26.3 102 111 0.052
Warrick 9.3 0.8 0.4 13.9 23.4 100 109 0.05
Price 18.7 3.4 0.4 24.6 16.4 89 105 0.008
Data courtesy Basketball-Reference.com.
If I were grading Gortat compared to other centers in the league I would give
him a B+, but since I am grading him based on his play for the Suns and his
importance to this team, I am going to give him a solid A for last season. I
would grade his first half performance as an "A", and his second half
performance as an "A-" because of his slight drop off in the second half of the
season, which I believe was mostly due to being worn down and tired over
playing so many minutes in such a compressed and intense season. But
all-in-all, Gortat had an excellent year.
如果我拿鍋貼與其他隊的中鋒比較, 我會給他B +; 但既然我將根據他對太陽的貢獻和重
要 性評分, 我便會給他A. 我給他的上半季A而下半季A-; 他的數據在下半季稍有下降的
原因,我相信主要是因為體力下降且因需在緊湊激烈的本季出賽這麼長的時間而疲累. 但
總結仍是鍋貼有個非常傑出的一年.
I believe his play last season was was much better than many fans and analysts
think, and I believe he was instrumental in not only helping to carry this team
in the first half of the season, but also to the impressive yet ultimately
ill-fated playoff push the Suns made in the second half of the season--which
many fans simply don't give him enough credit for.
我相信本季他的表現比很多球迷和分析者認為的還要好,也相信他不僅在本季上半季幫助
這支球隊,也在下半季令人印象深刻但最終命運多舛的季后賽衝刺中推動了太陽–雖然很
多球迷沒有在這點上給予他足夠的掌聲.
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