[閒聊] 如果選秀能重來....

看板PHX-Suns (鳳凰城 太陽)作者 (洪爺)時間9年前 (2017/01/17 23:20), 9年前編輯推噓6(6016)
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https://goo.gl/atAJHA Re-Drafting the 2016 NBA Draft Class at the Midseason Mark 這是幾個運動專家在球季中(就是現在拉)對今年選秀的觀察與重估 有趣的是,目前普遍被認為還沒打出來的龍哥仍舊是太陽的第四順位, Chriss 則被認為會早於 Hield 被選走。 (不過如果有三衛可以選,我猜國王也不會把選秀權交易給我們了吧) 來看看這些分析(大致翻譯而已) 4. Dragan Bender Dragan Bender going to the Phoenix Suns aligns three of the first four redo picks with what actually happened. While it's noteworthy that Marquese Chriss, not Bender, is the rookie Phoenix shoved into a starting role first, that doesn't influence the order here. And despite limited chances, Bender still made history by posting 11 points, 13 rebounds, three steals and two blocks in a Dec. 26 loss to the Houston Rockets. Tracy McGrady is the only guy to mark that line at a younger age. 太陽在前四順位中選到龍哥並不意外,雖然很明顯 Chriss 比他早進入先發位置, 但這不會影響龍哥的高順位。儘管機會有限,龍哥在 12/26 輸給火箭隊的比賽中 得到了個人生涯目前最好的成績: 11 分 13 板 3 抄截 2 火鍋。 史上唯一一個能在這個年紀有這種標誌性成績的人叫做 Tracy McGrady。 At 7'1", this Suns rookie has skills that suggest he'll be a playmaking center with significant defensive versatility. He's shown flashes of fantastic lateral mobility on D, which should make him highly valuable in switch-heavy defensive schemes going forward. The Step Back's Cole Zwicker lays those skills out here. Better still, he reads the floor exceptionally well for someone with his experience level. As a play-diagnoser on D, he's miles beyond Chriss and most other rookies—regardless of position. 以一個七呎一身高的長人而言,龍哥展現出標誌性的防守讓他看起來可以 扮演一個防守中樞。在防守端,他出色的橫向移動能力充滿了閃光點,而 這讓他在以前鋒位置佈置防守陷阱時價值更高了。 更棒的是,以他的上場經驗跟其他的人比較,他對於場上空間的閱讀能力 要好過包括 Chriss 在內,所有位置的本屆新秀球員。 Bender is also weak enough to be pushed around, lacks a post game and never gets to the foul line. But those are areas that you'd expect a 19-year-old to work on and improve. The things that are harder to teach—feel, smarts and mobility—are what give him such a high ceiling. Phoenix isn't helping Bender by playing him as a wing so often, but at least it got this pick right. 龍哥同樣很弱,他不太有禁區作戰能力,也很難製造犯規。 但這些東西比較像是你會對一個 19 歲新秀投以的期望而非苛求,而他的 感覺,籃球智商跟流動都是那種更難教出來的東西,這是讓他的天花板被 期望得更高的原因。 太陽還沒有讓 Bender 張開他的羽翼,但至少目前看來他值得在這個順位 被選擇。 6. New Orleans Pelicans—Marquese Chriss Among the New Orleans Pelicans' many great failings during the Anthony Davis era, a reluctance to reach for stars in the draft stands out. Free agents of consequence don't sign in New Orleans, and what Davis needs more than anything else is a second star-level talent alongside him. That's why Marquese Chriss, an immature, undeveloped, defensively spacey power forward with unlimited raw physical tools, makes the most sense here. 由於其他球星不願加盟,加上水鳥在 AD 的領導下還是爬不上去,他們顯 然需要第二個有球星天賦的球員加入他們。 這也是為什麼 Chriss 這樣一個不成熟的、未開發的,在防守端除了基本 的物理手段之外幾乎什麼都沒有的球員會在這裡被提到。 Yes, Buddy Hield shot 47.8 percent from long range in December and looks like the one-dimensional rotation specialist his college career suggested he'd be. But the Pelicans needed to stretch for more. They needed to gamble. Chriss' upside isn't just higher than Hield's. It might be higher than anyone but Simmons' or Ingram's. He projects as a viable three-point shooter with enough quickness to punish closeouts by any big and even plenty of wings. He's also a highlight factory. 當然啦, Hield 在十二月擁有他大學水準的 47.8% 命中率,但鵜鶘需要 得更多,他們必須要賭大一點。 Chriss 的上升空間不只可能比 Hield 要來得高,在本屆球員中,他最後的成就甚至可能只在 Simmons 跟 Ingram 兩位球員之下。目前他是一個可用的三分球射手,有足夠的速度對來自大 個子或側翼的目標狠狠把門關上。他同樣是一個 Highlight 的製造者。

01/17 23:37,
Chriss那邊的punish closeout應該是說他有足夠的敏
01/17 23:37

01/17 23:37,
捷去擊敗來自長人甚至是許多側翼的施壓防守
01/17 23:37
Can he be taught to actually try on the defensive glass? Can he cool off and avoid emotional outbursts that have produced seven technical fouls so far? Can he pay attention on D for two possessions in a row? If there's an affirmative answer to, say, two of those three questions, Chriss could become a star. 但他可以真的嘗試去上一堂防守課嗎?目前已經累積了七次技術犯規的他, 能夠克制自己的情緒爆發嗎?他能夠在自己的領地中面對接連的挑戰提起 注意力嗎? 如果以上這三個問題能夠解決兩個,他就可以變成一個明星球員。 -- ▃▃ ▅▅▅▅ ▄▄ ▇▇ ▄▄ ██   ▅▅ ▃▉ █▅ ▄▄ ▄▄ ▄▄▄ █▆ █▄ ▄▄▌█▊██▌ 04-05╴╴ ╴╴▄▄ █▅ █▄▌▄▄◤ █ Phx-Suns ▕▕▕▕╱ ╯05-06 ◤◥▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄ Dal-Mavs -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.216.47.211 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PHX-Suns/M.1484666456.A.727.html

01/17 23:27, , 1F
我覺得龍哥那段應該不是犯規麻煩 感覺比較像缺乏
01/17 23:27, 1F

01/17 23:27, , 2F
持續力以及沒辦法買飯
01/17 23:27, 2F

01/17 23:29, , 3F
龍哥那邊是說他沒有禁區作戰能力(post game)跟上罰
01/17 23:29, 3F

01/17 23:30, , 4F
球線的能力
01/17 23:30, 4F

01/17 23:33, , 5F
感恩~
01/17 23:33, 5F
※ 編輯: bll135 (61.216.47.211), 01/17/2017 23:33:56

01/17 23:37, , 6F
Chriss那邊的punish closeout應該是說他有足夠的敏
01/17 23:37, 6F

01/17 23:37, , 7F
捷去擊敗來自長人甚至是許多側翼的施壓防守
01/17 23:37, 7F
再次感謝 原來我搞錯了 Q_Q

01/17 23:40, , 8F
謝謝分享,覺得專家分析跟板上想法差不多
01/17 23:40, 8F

01/17 23:42, , 9F
不過Bender這三場禁區卡位要球蠻兇的,持續進步中
01/17 23:42, 9F
※ 編輯: bll135 (61.216.47.211), 01/17/2017 23:43:03

01/17 23:42, , 10F
Chriss最近的防守恍神越來越明顯,教練快罵醒他吧
01/17 23:42, 10F

01/18 00:14, , 11F
Bender就是一副沒自信懶懶的感覺,但他的球商跟技巧
01/18 00:14, 11F

01/18 00:14, , 12F
其實沒那麼差
01/18 00:14, 12F

01/18 00:14, , 13F
Chriss真的讓我看到恨鐵不成鋼阿,進攻都進入狀況了
01/18 00:14, 13F

01/18 00:15, , 14F
可見腦不是補不起來,但防守就是很放空= =
01/18 00:15, 14F

01/18 00:16, , 15F
01/18 00:16, 15F

01/18 01:07, , 16F
其實龍哥配個中鋒拳王或Len,加上塔克,防守這方面我
01/18 01:07, 16F

01/18 01:07, , 17F
覺得還不錯,這組合防守籃板也抓的很紮實,進攻端龍
01/18 01:07, 17F

01/18 01:07, , 18F
哥也有在努力跑位和要球,繼續加油!
01/18 01:07, 18F

01/18 01:08, , 19F
拳王腸胃炎,小蘭臀部受傷,他會有更多機會了~
01/18 01:08, 19F

01/19 12:26, , 20F
龍哥球商真的讚 期待!至於Chriss 是窮人版阿罵嗎@w@
01/19 12:26, 20F

01/19 14:35, , 21F
Chriss我一直覺得心態有問題,他在場上好像一直選擇
01/19 14:35, 21F

01/19 14:36, , 22F
自己想做的事情做...
01/19 14:36, 22F
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