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[外電] 太陽讓JJ遠離賽爾提克? McD並未完全否認

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以下翻譯有誤還請不吝指教 http://tinyurl.com/y7uwp9tr Suns General Manager Ryan McDonough and Boston Celtics President of Basketball Operations Danny Ainge didn’t just work together for a decade. They became good friends. 太陽總管McD跟賽爾提克總管Ainge不僅是曾經一起工作過十年的同事，他們也變成好朋友 Which makes the emerging story that the Suns might have had something to do with Josh Jackson cancelling his pre-draft workout for Boston – and thus falling into Phoenix’s lap with the No. 4 pick Thursday – all the more delicious. 這讓太陽可能做一些事情讓JJ取消他與賽爾提克的試訓，以及選秀日JJ掉到第四順位讓太 陽帶走的故事更精彩 Here’s the backdrop: The Celtics’ team plane was en route to Sacramento last week to work out Jackson when Ainge got the word that the workout had been cancelled. Not surprisingly, he was none too pleased. This is what he said to Boston reporters: 先說故事背景: 上個禮拜賽爾提克的球隊飛機飛往沙加緬度去試訓JJ的途中，結果中途被JJ方告知取消 試訊，Ainge說他金每送，以下是Ainge跟波士頓記者說的 "There was something that he didn't want to play for the Celtics,” Ainge said. “In spite of that, we've watched Josh for two years and we're fans. He's a terrific kid and a good player. So we tried not to overreact to those kinds of things and make a big deal of it. "Agents and players have all sorts of motivations to get to certain places, as we've seen in the past. Remember last year, Kris Dunn didn't want to come here; we didn't hold it against him … And I think the same thing this time. I don't think we were trying to penalize Josh too much, but we didn't get to see him or talk to him face-to-face." Asked if the cancellation made him consider passing on Jackson, Ainge said, "No, no, no. Well, there were thoughts, yeah, I was mad. We flew cross-country. Are you kidding me? I had to get up at 4 o'clock and fly back home." Ainge說 "有一些事情讓JJ不想為塞爾提克打球，儘管如此，我們已經觀察JJ兩年也是粉絲，他是 一位很出色的孩子也是一位優秀球員，所以我們嘗試不對那些事情過於反應且大驚小怪， 經紀人跟球員都有他們的考量想去某些地方，記得去年，Dunn並不想來這裡，我們並沒有 跟他對幹帶走他...而我認為這次也是這樣，我不認為我們嘗試去對JJ不利，但我們根本 沒看到他或是跟他面對面對談。" 另外Ainge被問到是否試訓取消事件讓他決定不選JJ "不不不，嗯，是有一些想法，對，挖金每送，我們飛行橫跨整個美國，你跟我開玩笑嗎? 我得4點鐘起床再飛回家耶" Fast forward to Friday, when Jackson and the Suns’ two second-round picks – Miami guard Davon Reed and Valparaiso forward Alec Peters – were introduced to the media. McDonough was asked if the Suns might have nudged Jackson in cancelling the workout so Boston wouldn’t take him with the No. 3 pick. “I’d like to consult my attorney B.J. Armstrong (Jackson’s agent),” McDonough said with a smile. 快轉至禮拜五，太陽在媒體前介紹JJ跟另外兩位二輪新秀--Davon Reed跟Alec Peters， 被問到是否太陽做了一些事情使JJ取消賽爾提克試訓以讓他不被第三順位選到 McD微笑說 "我想要先跟我的律師B.J.Armstrong(JJ的經紀人)商量一下" McDonough then did nothing to dissuade the notion that there might have been some collusion between the Suns and Jackson’s representatives. “You guys all know my history with the Celtics and the respect I have for Danny Ainge and the organization,” McDonough said. “But I think you guys who know me well know how competitive I am. Look, it is a competition. The Celtics were ahead of us at No. 3 and they could have selected whoever they wanted to. I think they got a very good player in Jayson Tatum, but that doesn ’t mean B.J. and I and … other members of my staff couldn’t talk and try to formulate the best plan to get a player we were really high on to a place we felt he really wanted to go and would be a great fit for him. “We played by the rules – I guess.” 接著McD也沒有做任何事去打消大家認為"太陽是否曾經跟JJ代表有一些共謀"的念頭 McD說 "你們大家都知道我在賽爾提克的過往，而且我也很尊敬Ainge跟賽爾提克整個組織，但是 我想你們大家也知道本人的競爭力，聽著，這是一場競賽，賽爾提克在我們前面是第三順 位，他們能選擇他們想要的人，而且我認為他們最終得到一個非常優秀球員--Tatum，但這 不意味著之前B.J.不能跟我和所有我的員工們溝通且嘗試建構最好的計畫，去為了得到一 位球員是我們有著非常高評價+認為他很想要來這裡+認為這裡對他來說是非常好的歸宿" "我們按照遊戲規則去玩---------------------我猜是這樣啦" For his part, Jackson said not working out for Boston was “just bad scheduling. If I could have, I probably would have worked out for them. But I think everything worked out for the best.” JJ說 "就只是規劃不良，如果可以我也許會跟賽爾提克試訓，但我認為任何試訓就要做到最好" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (以下另一位新秀的報導) A video of Peters’ emotional reaction to being taken by the Suns with the No. 54 pick went viral following the draft. In the video, Peters buries his head in his hands upon his selection so nobody could see him “tearing up.” 一段Peters在太陽選中他之後流露真情的影片於選秀後流傳開來，在影片中，Peters埋 著且抱著頭，所以當他被選中的那時大家都看不到他在落淚 There was good reason for the burst of feelings. Peters couldn’t participate in any of the pre-draft workouts because of a stress fracture he suffered in his right foot in March. 對於這段情感爆發背後有著很好解釋的原因，Peters沒辦法參加任何一個選前試訓，因為 他的左足在三月時遭遇應力性骨折 “It was extremely difficult,” Peters said. “It kind of feels like out of sight, out of mind. Everybody is traveling to different teams, and I’m sitting back just going to physical therapy. It got pretty lonely and pretty hard but at the end of the day I knew I was going to get that opportunity. Hearing my name at the end made it all worth it.” Peters說 "對我來說真的異常艱辛，這感覺就像是寧願眼不見為淨，每個人都旅行去不同球隊，而 我只能休息為了準備物理治療，真的非常孤獨且艱辛，但是最後這天我知道我正要獲得機 會，最後聽到我的名字讓這一切都值得了" https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/878235722679017472 (內有Peters親友拍攝當天選秀唸到Peters的影片) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 220.137.114.177 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PHX-Suns/M.1498299022.A.D38.html
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06/24 18:13, , 1F
小彼得QQQQQ
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看小彼得推特感覺就是那種重視生活家人跟朋友的人
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06/24 18:21, , 3F
太陽新生代都太暴戾之氣太重,也需要peters這類溫馨
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型的球員中和一下,哈。
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06/24 18:23, , 5F
雞湯生根本是用帶黑幫的方式在取得球員信任的
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06/24 18:24, , 6F
不過jj的性格問題其實我覺得沒那麼嚴重，目前看來是
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他對於很多人際處理跟情緒控管的部分做得不是很好，
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06/24 18:24, , 8F
以前Nash和Hill還在的時候我覺得我們還算斯文 怎...
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06/24 18:25, , 9F
因為這些導致他一連串的爭議。但有Chandler Dudley
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06/24 18:25, , 10F
Barbosa 這些老將教導他，他會慢慢成熟的
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06/24 18:25, , 11F
他總不可能一直行事幼稚而不長大，我只是比較擔心他
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06/24 18:26, , 12F
可能沒有足夠的積極心讓他摸到自己的天花板（進攻上
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06/24 18:27, , 13F
這批年輕人我是覺得蠻有企圖心拉
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06/24 18:28, , 14F
上季強制關機開坦 他們還是拼命想贏
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06/24 18:28, , 15F
本來想寫文章稍微討論一下之後太陽的格局，但現在還
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06/24 18:29, , 16F
太早了，fa開市（特別搞定bk）以後才會比較明朗
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06/24 18:31, , 17F
交易市場在選秀後,就靜敲敲,好悶呀
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06/24 18:39, , 18F
BK到底能換到什麼呢? 我推斷是一個選秀權
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06/24 18:41, , 19F
要看時機，看bk猶如看股市，時機好會有球隊賭看看，
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06/24 18:41, , 20F
時機不好我們就得多賠點東西要別人吞。
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06/24 18:42, , 21F
球員能力不等於交易價值，而「交易價值」這東西是浮
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06/24 18:42, , 22F
動的，不是一成不變的。
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就是因為太陽太想賣，所以他的交易價值一直被殺很低
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06/24 18:43, , 24F
但如果剛好有球隊缺後衛，就可以試試看了
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06/24 18:47, , 25F
本來想說快艇看起來後場全部留不住 把BK丟過去換個
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06/24 18:47, , 26F
像是缺後衛的球隊搶大牌失敗之後，bk這種白菜價球
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員就有些吸引力了
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籤有沒機會 但選秀他們就馬上補了兩個後段的G...
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那兩個能不能上場還是個疑問xd
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06/24 19:31, , 30F
也許今年就是快艇的坦年開始
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覺得BK和布雷獸這兩個人大概都不會留
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把Booker拉上PG打也ok，像是另一支火箭隊
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就算給Ulis先發老普替補也沒什麼不好 反正都要練
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現在階段我會覺得雷獸+Ulis>Ulis+老普
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老普應該是簽來當吉祥物的，上場還是太勉強
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感覺未來渦輪會變假先發 主要配第二隊當第六人搶分
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Booker沒有鬍子的體能 不要亂來比較好...
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其實我覺得Booker打PG也不是不可以，他第一季就開始
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偶爾代班過，其實節奏並不亂，尤其又有Ulis替補。Bo
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oker長得像體能不好，但當初他選秀試訓的速度項目
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06/24 22:17, , 41F
其實很強，Warren打SF JJ打SG。但我對教練團是否準
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備好存疑。
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https://tinyurl.com/y8n2ufop 國外有新聞討論過
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如果市場上有值得出手的4號 5號 ，Bled Chriss Bend
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er這些籌碼個人意見是可以思考一下..
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速度靈活性方面 當年體測Booker的Lane Agility Dril
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06/24 22:33, , 47F
l比John Wall體測時還快。 shuttle run是當年體測
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06/24 22:33, , 48F
參加者第一名。
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Booker我覺得沒法打PG 萬一雷獸真走肯定也是Ulis接
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Booker本季也常兼打PG，而且越控越穩
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尤其是跟開季時相比失誤明顯下降
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體能也不覺得是太大問題，他現在都打快打滿四節了
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06/24 23:27, , 53F
是說Booker體測的橫向移動速度那麼棒，可是怎麼防守
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06/24 23:27, , 54F
那麼差..
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06/24 23:42, , 55F
覺得是防守意識的問題
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06/25 00:01, , 56F
也沒有好的教練吧
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06/25 00:08, , 57F
或許是教練和體系問題？
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06/25 00:46, , 58F
防守經驗有差 還有就是我覺得他沒有放太多心力在認
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真防守 尤其是在跟持球者對位的時候
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Booker這幾年還是先專心點SG技能就好，鬍子都打幾年
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SG才轉的…
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需要人兼職控球作用的話可以考慮新來的JJ，看能不能
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養出一個控球前鋒。
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鬍子的方式防守其實不差
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06/25 01:39, , 65F
只是前幾年一直把專注力放在 得分跟要飯
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別鬧哩 JJ運球都算不好了
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06/25 15:10, , 67F
足部應力性骨折，應該難不倒太陽醫龍
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06/25 18:17, , 68F
Stress fracture 還好啦
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