Re: Trades!!

看板Pirates作者abc12812時間16年前 (2009/07/04 17:33)推噓1(1推 0噓 0→)

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※ 引述《yunajane (yunajane)》之銘言： : : 2. Nyjer Morgan + Sean Burnett --> Nationals : : for Lasting Milledge + Joel Hanrahan : : 明顯的pirates sell high on Morgan and Burnett and buy low on Milledge and : : Hanrahan. : : Aloneside the possible "attitude" issues, this is an easy win for the Bucs. : : Milledge最大的問題是attitude, 但是他的career line is better then Morgan's : : Breakout year (this year), 而且Milledge 比Morgan小了快五歲 : : 他的upside還在, I think he is a good investment and rist that Bucs should : : take. : : 套一句 BUCCOFans.com說, you need better player to win, not nicer player. : : Burnett在去年後段站穩腳步後,今年是最後倚賴的LHP from the pen. 不過 : : Hanrahan 整體的stuff比burnett好, 雖然今年看來被打爆 : : 不過他的K/9 維持他生涯的高水準, K/BB甚至還進步 : : 他的7+ era 最大原因是他那誇張的BABIP, 接近0.5 : : 換句話說,他回穩是遲早的事. BTW, 他的fastball is around 94-96 : : My quick reation: GOOD JOB FO!! : 請教一下，我看一些報導有提到，Milledge似乎和隊友不太合， : 有時練球遲到或怎樣的,在大都會時好像就被人嫌過， : 後來到國民好像也有不少指責他的態度不佳， : 現在又來到海盜， : 但我看有些人說他也許會變成「半個Grady Sizemore」， : 不知yij對此人可否多介紹一點否？ http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/pirates_acquired_milledge/ Pittsburgh Pirates - Acquired OF Lastings Milledge and P Joel Hanrahan from the Washington Nationals for OF Nyjer Morgan and P Sean Burnett Let's get the Nats side of the trade out of the way first. Morgan's not a good offensive player and a 350/350 season is pretty much what he can reasonable expected to top out at. As long as he's 10-15 runs better than average in centerfield, where he's likely to be when all is said and done, he's a usable player somewhere around league-average. Problem is, Morgan turns 29 in a few days and defensive aging among baseball players isn't a curve, but a line, pointing down. Sure, he could be like Mike Cameron and play good defense in center forever, but that's not typical. A team like the Nationals should see upside in every player they pick up and I just don't see where the upside is in Morgan. He's not particularly disciplined, he's unlikely to develop any power or improve defensively, so where's the payoff? I hated the Milledge trade from the perspective of the Mets, but sitting there at Thanksgiving '07, the idea that Church could possibly develop into a .875-.900 OPS player wasn't something that was induced from sniffing airplane glue. The same goes for the Burnett-Hanrahan part of the swap. Burnett's upside is a solid LOOGY with unimpressive stuff. Hanrahan hasn't been great (and his peripherals suggest a better ERA than he's shown), but if he works out, you have a classic big fastball/slider shutdown reliever. Obviously, I think Hanrahan is a terrific pickup for the Pirates and way to turn a commodity into something with upside. That brings us to Milledge, saved for last for obvious reasons. Yes, Milledge has been disappointing and his behavior has frequently left much to be desired. But against that, you have the fact that people in their early-20s aren't exactly known for their amazing levels of maturity and that turning prospects into players and boys into men is their job. Some of the reports about Milledge in New York and Washington have been ridiculous - at times, you can almost tell that the "unnamed sources" speaking to beat reporters are just straining to not use the word "uppity" when Milledge commits such crimes against humanity like high-fiving fans in a moment of joy and excitement or an interest in rap music. I know that 60-year-old white guys have more important matters, like getting half a billion dollars in corporate welfare from local governments, to attend to, but it would be nice if certain organizations would be able to deal with prospects that aren't either nice, clean-cut white boys who love Jesus and listen to country music or eager immigrants who used milk cartons as gloves and desperately want to send money home to their family overseas. As a player, Milledge has showed flashes at times, coming back from a groin injury last year to hit 299/355/448 in the second half. 2009 has been a disaster for Milledge, but a disaster essentially consisting of 100 PA. The idea that Milledge is done at 24 because of a bad month and a broken hand is absolutely ridiculous. Yes, Milledge needs to show less indifference with his defense, but it's a two-way street - organizations need to show less indifference towards Milledge's future, as well and do their ####### jobs. Is Pittsburgh the right destination? I don't really know. At least they have the right idea, get upside for no-upside. But will the organization nurture Milledge as a player, treat him like a valued member of the organization rather than an annoyance every time he does something that may not be Brent Bozell-friendly? That remains to be seen. 2009 ZIPS Projection - Lastings Milledge ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year-to-Date 105 11 22 4 0 0 4 3 27 6 .210 .236 .248 Rest-of-Year 204 28 57 10 1 7 24 14 39 9 .279 .337 .438 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2009 ZIPS Projection - Nyjer Morgan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year-to-Date 278 39 77 6 5 2 27 29 49 18 .277 .351 .356 Rest-of-Year 221 32 58 7 2 1 15 16 40 18 .261 .322 .322 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total 499 71 135 13 7 3 42 45 89 36 .270 .338 .341 2009 ZIPS Projection - Sean Burnett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year-to-Date 1 2 38 0 32.3 22 11 3 15 23 3.06 Rest-of-Year 1 1 33 0 29.3 30 15 3 16 20 4.60 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total 2 3 71 0 61.7 52 26 6 31 43 3.79 2009 ZIPS Projection - Joel Hanrahan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- W L G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year-to-Date 0 3 34 0 32.7 50 28 3 14 35 7.71 Rest-of-Year 2 2 36 0 42.7 41 19 4 20 43 4.01 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total 2 5 70 0 75.3 91 47 7 34 78 5.62 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.5.3