[轉錄]Re: [外絮][轉貼]歐尼爾的12大綽號

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1DxUp9LE ] 作者: Laban (暴雪遊戲序號批發) 看板: NBA 標題: Re: [外絮][轉貼]歐尼爾的12大綽號 時間: Tue Jun 7 17:17:58 2011 ※ 引述《LoveBea (德川田信秀)》之銘言: : Shaquille這個名字 是歐尼爾的父母在幫他命名時 : 特地去翻回教的命名書找出來的 : (歐尼爾的父母不是回教徒 為什麼會去翻回教的書還是個謎 = =) : 意思是"小戰士"的意思 歐尼爾的父母從小希望這孩子將來是個戰士 : 歐尼爾的父親 是美軍 曾派駐德國 歐尼爾也曾以軍眷身份在德國住過一年 : 歐尼爾從小就一直在美軍基地打滾 也不負他的本名由來 : : The Big Deporter : : 「驅逐出境者」… 中文不好笑 : 歐尼爾自己曾提過 他跟喬丹的球風差別 : 就是看喬丹打球 你會說:真是優美~真希望跟他一樣~ (like Mike) : 看歐尼爾打球 你會說:把這畜生趕出球場!!!(歐尼爾自己說的...) : : The Big Diesel : : 「大號柴油發動機」: 耐操耐蘑,季後賽馬力驚人 : 歐尼爾的第一張專輯就叫做"Shaq Diesel" (我有買....= =) : 歐尼爾很喜歡柴油機的意象 因為那是大卡車車頭都會寫的字 : 台灣也是這樣 你待會出門仔細找台卡車看看 車頭應該都有寫Diesel : 意思就是歐尼爾認為他就是台柴油大卡車 也曾以小跑車比喻過某人... 第一段錯誤很多幫你補充一下 "Shaquille"是他的生父Joseph Toney幫他取的 Joseph Toney在紐澤西當地算是出名的籃球明星 身高只有6"1 (Shaquille的籃球天份可能有遺傳他老爸,身高則是遺傳至外公,憑印象他外公好像也有 接近7"身高) 與交往三年高中剛畢業的Lucille O'Neal生下了Shaquille 不過在他出生不久後因詐欺及涉及毒品案進監獄了 他曾表示非常痛恨他的生父,無法原諒他 Toney 6年過後出獄,他的母親Lucille O'Neal已經嫁給了Phillip A. Harrison 在Shaquille兩歲的時候舉家搬遷至德國失去了聯繫後Toney以為再也見不到他的兒子了 直到有天在電視上看到了Shaquille高中明星賽 "I saw a guy dunk and I heard them say his name and I said, 'Oh my, that's him! That's my son! And look how big he is!' Toney不斷的重覆著,在那之後不斷的透過關係想要跟他見上一面 但都被Shaquille給拒絕了。 O'Neal曾經出過一首跟他生父有關的歌 Biological didn't bother http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNJtxvObp_o
Joseph Toney interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZtEDgcJlQ
還有Joseph Toney罰球 很明顯比歐肥準很多 XDDD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgQN0AAD0ug
O'Neal曾經跟他的母親說過不喜歡Shaquille這個名字 不過母親跟他說你要讓別人記住你的名字 讓他們記住你這個人 因為母親的鼓勵所以O'Neal才開始創造出自己強烈的風格讓世人記住他 詳情可以參考O'Neal退休記者會影片翻譯 http://video.sina.com.cn/deco/2008/1118/flvPlayer1218.swf?vid=53968640 另外有關於Biological didn't bother這首歌背後的故事原文 上面有自己翻一小段希望其他能有人翻一下@@ Bill Plaschke: 'Biological Didn't Bother' O'Neal chooses not to connect with the father who left him years ago. NEWARK, N.J. -- The man who doesn't exist walks larger than life through the dank hallways of the Goodwill Home and Mission, wearing a gold Laker jersey adorned with, "O'Neal." The man who abandoned his second child awakens every morning in his tiny, windowless room to photos of the boy on the wall and desk, all grown up, giant and famous and gone. The man who has been purposely forgotten has put a message on his answering machine that shows he will never forget. "Hi, this is Shaq ... " says the voice. That's not his name. But it was once his shame. And even as he tries to fix things from his place in the darkest shadow of his son's greatest glory, Joseph Toney realizes it's much too late. "It's finished, and it's God's will, and there's nothing more I can do," he said softly. Joseph Toney is Shaquille O'Neal's biological father. He lives and works in a Newark shelter 15 minutes from the Continental Airlines Arena, where O'Neal will lead the Lakers against the New Jersey Nets Wednesday in what could be a clinching Game 4 of the NBA Finals. Toney has obtained a ticket on his own and will cheer for his son but will not say hello. He has never said hello. They have never spoken. They have never even met. This is not by accident. Wondering how a father could leave his son when he was 6 months old, O'Neal treats him as if he's dead. Claiming he lost contact only because he was in prison, then on drugs, Toney says he is alive and sorry. O'Neal's people claim Toney is only looking for money and fame. and looking for nothing. The only thing certain is that these glorious days for a giant hero have been painfully nicked with irony. This is O'Neal's triumphant homecoming to a Newark area where he grew up and still maintains ties with as many as 200 relatives. Yet his closest blood relation here is not welcome. This is a time when O'Neal's funky trademark smile is becoming the NBA's logo. Yet the only man in the world who shares that smile doesn't even know him. When asked Monday about his biological father, O'Neal smile turned to stone. "No, it doesn't bother me at all," he said. "Because the man doesn't even exist." ___ "You want to see Shaq?" Mission says when you ask about Joseph Toney. That is what they call him here. It's a place more about desperate hope than heroes, these brick buildings lodged in a narrow street in downtown Newark, dozens of men wandering around, the air thick with old sweat and mumbled promises. Lots of men come here claiming to have something special. Joseph Toney has delivered. "When I heard he was Shaq's father, I took it with a grain of salt," said Rich Callahan, director of ministries. "You hear a lot of that sort of thing around here." But Toney, who checked in three years ago as just another drug-addled soul, always kept a scrapbook. And in that scrapbook he kept a birth certificate. He's only 6 feet 1, but he does have O'Neal's smile, and his lower jaw, and even his slow gait. As Toney straightened up and became a member of the Goodwill staff, driving a truck that delivered bread to homeless shelters, his credibility increased and everyone believed. "It's a pretty amazing story," Callahan says. Over the years, Toney has occasionally shared that story with the local newspaper, and he did so again last weekend. But with the Lakers arriving in town for the middle games of the NBA Finals, the news was too close for comfort. Sunday morning before Game 3 here, Phillip "Sarge" Harrison, O'Neal's career Army stepfather, was inside the mission's hallways, rapping on that front desk. He summoned Toney from his third-floor dormitory room and into the street, where he repeated rules that he had set many years ago. Recalled Toney: "He was upset and told me to stay away. I told him, I didn't want anything. I never wanted anything." Said Harrison later: "Of course he wants something. If Shaquille wasn't famous, we would have never heard from him. Why is he doing this? Why?" Toney has asked himself that same question and, now that he has been clean for three years, he says he has an answer. Said Toney: "Only one person can take a son away from you, and that's God." and blood, and he shows up now?" ___ Joseph Toney was a local basketball star. Lucille O'Neal worked down at the local drug store. They dated for three years until O'Neal graduated from high school. Then she became pregnant, just as Toney was turning to drugs. Toney was in the hospital with her when she gave birth to Shaquille. It was Toney who gave him the celebrated name. But soon, Toney was sent to federal prison in Lexington, Ky., on a conviction involving fraudulent checks. The way he tells the story: "When I came back home six years later, Lucille had already married Phillip, and I was out of the picture." Harrison tells a different story. "When he came back from prison, I saw him in the park, and we agreed that because he already had another child, I would be Shaquille's dad and take care of him," Harrison said. "We even shook hands on it." Toney said that while he agreed to give up parental rights, "I never said I didn't want to see my son again." The years passed, O'Neal moved to a military base in Germany, and Toney said all attempts to find him became fruitless. Said Toney: "Too much red tape." Said Harrison: "He never tried." Toney said he had given up, thinking his son would remain in Germany indefinitely, until the day he recognized Shaquille on TV during a high school all-star game. "I saw a guy dunk and I heard them say his name and I said, 'Oh my, that's him! That's my son! And look how big he is!' " Toney recalled. Toney said he tried to reach his son, phoning him at the basketball office at Louisiana State. But he said the return call came from Harrison. "He was really mad, told me to stay away," Toney recalled. Toney waited a couple of years until O'Neal played for the Orlando Magic. He flew to Orlando, contacted his coaches, and was told to wait for O'Neal near an exit after one of the games. "While I was standing there, they hustled Shaq out the other exit," he said. "So he was trying to avoid me." He was. He still is. Several years ago, O'Neal poured out his hurt in a rap song, "Biological Didn't Bother." Toney said this obvious pain is why he has finally stopped bothering. "I understand their situation, I feel for them," Toney said. "Phillip did a great job raising him. Probably a better job than I would have done. Shaq seems to be a nice young man. Things have turned out for the best." Toney said the only thing he wants is for his other two sons to meet their half-brother. That is what he told Harrison. Harrison said he would consider it. "I understand, it ain't those boys' fault," said Harrison. chance right now as the Nets. His friends may call him "Shaq," but he clearly once made the choice to ignore that name. And now that the sports world is celebrating it, he cannot. Said Toney: "I still feel that I had a part in creating one of the greatest players in the world." Said Harrison: "Yeah. But he left him. Think about that. He left him." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.34.191.113

06/07 17:20,
眾所皆知Shaq跟他的繼父感情深厚,
06/07 17:20

06/07 17:21,
而和他的生父交惡,這跟他生父遺棄家庭和吸毒都有關
06/07 17:21

06/07 17:21,
而他的生父在Shaq因為籃球成名後一直嘗試接觸名利雙
06/07 17:21

06/07 17:22,
收的兒子,不過據說都被Shaq斷然拒絕。
06/07 17:22
沒錯 原文內也有提到 感謝補充 不過我又有找到一些資料說歐肥在08年之後就開始有跟他的生父接觸 ※ 編輯: Laban 來自: 114.34.191.113 (06/07 17:27)

06/07 17:42,
6"1可以生出7"的兒子.....:Q
06/07 17:42

06/07 17:44,
沒記錯的話以前看過他自傳 外公也有近7'身高
06/07 17:44

06/07 18:48,
所以說 母親的基因比較重要 XD
06/07 18:48

06/07 19:28,
我個人的經驗也讓我覺得兒子的身高跟母親那邊相關大
06/07 19:28

06/07 20:20,
之前不是有張照片俠客跟表哥合照?俠客變很小隻
06/07 20:20

06/07 21:19,
所以說要外公+老爸 真不容易啊 果然不世出
06/07 21:19

06/07 23:05,
借轉 謝謝
06/07 23:05
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