[外電] Understanding Oklahoma City’s defen …

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http://tinyurl.com/4kjh4ma Understanding Oklahoma City’s defensive problem January 7th, 2011 Royce Young Last season the Thunder won 50 games based almost entirely great defense. You didn’t even have to look at the numbers to see it. Game by game, Oklahoma City was just playing really sound, fundamental team defense. 上季雷霆之所以能拿下50勝,幾乎都是靠防守。我們甚至不用特地去查數據來證明,看著一 場接一場的比賽,雷霆就是能打出有效、基本的團隊防守。 This season, not so good. The numbers have all dropped way off as well as the eye test. You can just see the Thunder’s not defending as well. And Sebastian Pruiti writing for Basketball Prospectus gives an excellent — and very accurate — look at it. (To read the full article you need to be a BP Insider.) 本季的防守看起來不太好。各項數據紛紛下滑,就算光看比賽也感受的到。球迷感受的到雷 霆防守沒那麼好了。Basketball Prospectus的Sebastian Pruiti寫了一篇出色且精確的專 文來探討這個。(可惜這篇文章是付費文章。) *譯註:以下是作者的節錄。原文網址:http://tinyurl.com/4phaqex The two main areas where the Thunder is struggling on the defensive end this year are isolation situations and spot-up situations, according to Synergy Sports Technology. The Thunder is giving up .87 points per possession on isos (20th in the NBA) and 1.01 points per possession on spot-up opportunities (21st in the NBA). The most interesting thing is that the Thunder did really well in both of those instances last year, holding teams to .78 points per possession in iso situations (first in the NBA) and .94 points per possession in spot-up situations (fourth in the NBA). Sine the Thunder did not lose any rotation players this past offseason, it is interesting to see such a drop, and this leads to the question, 「Is the Thunder’s team defense worse, or are the individuals playing worse?」 雷霆防守的退步主要反應在兩個層面:對手的單打效率與定點跳投。(資料引自Synergy Sports Technology*)今年對手單打的point per possession(PPP)是0.87,第20名,對 手定點跳投的point per possession(PPP)是1.01,第21名。相較之下有趣的是,雷霆去 年這兩點作的相當好,分別是0.78(第1名)與0.94(第4名)。既然雷霆的陣容仍然完整, 這個問題就很有探討價值了:「是雷霆的團隊防守出問題,還是某個人的防守有問題?」 *譯註:網址http://tinyurl.com/3af59gk When looking at the individual Defensive Ratings of the Thunder’s top seven players, six of them (Kevin Durant, Serge Ibaka, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Thabo Sefolosha, Nenad Krstic) have seen their defensive rating improve. The one who didn’t, is Jeff Green, who is posting a Defensive Rating of 105.8 this year after posting a 104.8 Defensive Rating last year. 讓我們看一下本隊防守等級排名前7球員個人的數據:KD、Ibaka、Russ、Harden、Thabo、 Krstic跟上季一比,都有進步,唯一不進反退的是-Jeff Green。去年他防守等級是104.8 ,今年是更差的105.8。 Interestingly enough, Green is really struggling in the two areas that the Thunder as a whole struggle with. Green allows 1.11 PPP in iso situations (ranking him 215th in the NBA) while allowing 1.16 PPP in spot-up situations (ranking him 247th in the NBA). Green’s problem in iso situations is that he is a tweener, playing in between the three and four positions. While this creates mismatches on the offensive end, it leads to problems on the defensive end. Green isn’t quick enough to stay with threes, and he is too small to cover fours effectively. 很巧的是,今年Green對於單打與定點跳投的防守也很差勁。他對手單打的point per possession(PPP)是1.11,排名第215,而對手定點跳投的point per possession (PPP)是1.16,排名第247。Green對防守單打頭痛是因為他是個3/4號的tweener,對方一 製造錯守,他問題就大了。他的速度不夠快,很難阻止對方切入,而他的體型又太小,不足 以跟正規4號抗衡。 -- 哲學的義務,是去除因誤解而生的幻想。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 211.22.7.197 ※ 編輯: poning 來自: 211.22.7.197 (01/13 17:26)

01/13 17:26, , 1F
這消息好像不是很好 ...
01/13 17:26, 1F

01/13 17:40, , 2F
對Green相當不利的說
01/13 17:40, 2F

01/13 17:44, , 3F
不過這是數據面的 有些地方值得商榷
01/13 17:44, 3F

01/13 17:45, , 4F
歸咎給Green一個人好像有點不公平
01/13 17:45, 4F

01/13 21:36, , 5F
3/4的tweener會在防守上陷入困境應該也不是很難想像吧?
01/13 21:36, 5F

01/13 21:36, , 6F
我不是針對Green,不過一般來說,兩個位置兼打本來就代
01/13 21:36, 6F

01/13 21:37, , 7F
表「很可能」會在防守純三號或純四號時上吃虧——即使強
01/13 21:37, 7F

01/13 21:37, , 8F
如Marion全盛時期還是有特定的天敵類型。不過反過來說,
01/13 21:37, 8F

01/13 21:38, , 9F
進攻上也比較容易利用優勢部份討回來。該探討的是為什麼
01/13 21:38, 9F

01/13 21:39, , 10F
去年也是打3/4,卻比今年的數據還要好,這點就請板上有
01/13 21:39, 10F

01/13 21:39, , 11F
觀察的大大們賜教 XD
01/13 21:39, 11F

01/13 22:42, , 12F
我來丟幾個磚了!Uncle這兩個球季一直都是主要的補防者
01/13 22:42, 12F

01/13 22:44, , 13F
可是我覺得今年外圍防守不管是Russ或Thabo都不如以往
01/13 22:44, 13F

01/13 22:45, , 14F
這讓Uncle面對單打的機率增高 此時體型差距影響就變大了
01/13 22:45, 14F

01/13 22:46, , 15F
目前只想到這樣~
01/13 22:46, 15F

01/13 23:25, , 16F
是說單從數據上看外圍防守不算變弱 Russ + Thabo 數字也好看
01/13 23:25, 16F

01/13 23:25, , 17F
但就比賽內容上 外圍漏人跟被切的機率都比上季還來得高
01/13 23:25, 17F

01/13 23:25, , 18F
這算是已經算精細的防守數據 還是會出現的盲點嗎
01/13 23:25, 18F

01/13 23:26, , 19F
今年這兩點都一起退步惹 ... (靠腰!!! 說好的合約年呢!!!)
01/13 23:26, 19F

01/13 23:26, , 20F
但是去年 Uncle 在低位還有抵抗力 防守籃板卡位也有做好
01/13 23:26, 20F

01/13 23:26, , 21F
上面兩句推反惹 Q__Q
01/13 23:26, 21F

01/14 01:28, , 22F
場邊記者都說我的表現無法持續 有時擋的住有時擋不住
01/14 01:28, 22F

01/14 02:05, , 23F
Uncle本季低位抵抗力只能說 不堪一擊...而且現在補防者
01/14 02:05, 23F

01/14 02:07, , 24F
的角色好像被KD搶走了? 進攻討不回來就真的是低潮
01/14 02:07, 24F

01/14 02:09, , 25F
卡位的工作為什麼沒做好就不清楚了 說好的合約年打成這
01/14 02:09, 25F

01/14 02:09, , 26F
樣 不知道是好是壞
01/14 02:09, 26F
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