[討論] 2013 NBA Draft: 雷霆需要什麼?

看板Thunder (奧克拉荷馬市 雷霆)作者 (布魯克斯)時間12年前 (2013/05/11 23:46), 編輯推噓11(1106)
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2013 NBA Draft: What are the Thunder's needs, and what are the options available? http://0rz.tw/3xiOd The NBA draft is fast approaching and the draft lottery is in less than two weeks, scheduled for May 21st. This is about the time of year that everyone starts to do mock drafts and their draft analysis. Here is my attempt at that analysis, examining players from the Thunder franchise's perspective. It won't be long before all teams are making their roster decisions and then one of my favorite things in the world, NBA rookie league games, gets going. 選秀時間就在兩週後的05/21,越來越近囉。 First of all, how much better is the NBA draft than the NFL draft? The wait time from the Final Four to the NBA draft is so much shorter and so much more entertaining, and the lottery is really exciting. NBA的選秀比NFL簡潔多了,而且樂透還比較有趣。 The Thunder has the Raptor's first round pick and it is a protected pick. This means that if the Raptors' pick falls within the top 3, the Raptors actually keep the pick and the protected pick rolls forward for a year. The chances of the pick being in the top 3 is something like 4%. The most likely landing spot as far as percentages go for the Thunder pick is the 12th pick. The Thunder also have the 29th and 32nd overall pick. If the percentages play out, the Thunder have 3 of the first 32 picks, more picks than any other team in that stretch of drafting. 雷霆有很高的機會會拿到12順位(詳見#1HSa_sxJ (Thunder)),除此之外還有第29順位和 第32順位─也就是前32順位之中就有3支選秀籤,比其他隊都多。 1. What do the Thunder need? The Thunder do not need any radical additions, as they are obviously one of the best teams in the NBA. That being said, the Thunder do have some holes and they commonly look to fill them with young talent. With the current play of Kendrick Perkins, the one obvious hole seems to be a talented center. Kendrick Perkins isn't exactly an all star or even a standout player and has struggled in the playoffs. The one thing that the Thunder have never had is a legitimate center or someone that can score with their back to the basket. If there was a talented center available, you would have to think that the Thunder would be interested. 顯然雷霆已經是一支頂級球隊,所以沒有特別缺少的位置。不過雷霆還是有需要補足的地 方。考量到Kendrick Perkins的表現,雷霆需要一位有潛力的中鋒─雷霆一直都沒有很會 得分的頂級中鋒。如果有機會選擇頂級中鋒的話,雷霆或許會有興趣。 The next hole the Thunder could look fill is a quality 2/3 backup, basically someone that could eventually be DeAndre Liggins. Don't get me wrong I love DeAndre Liggins and I think he is valuable, but I think there could be better players for that role. I think if there was a player that could fill that role and then the Thunder would pull the trigger. 接著則是更好的替補SG/SF─就是DeAndre Liggins的位置。雖然我喜歡Liggins,但是我認 為那個位置應該給更厲害的球員。 The thing not to forget is that whoever the Thunder draft is going to spend a lot of time in Tulsa in the D-League, just like Perry Jones III and Jeremy Lamb did this past season. The Thunder like young talent, but they also like to develop young talent slowly in the D-League. Whoever it is that the Thunder draft they will probably not be seeing quality minutes for a while. 不過要記住這位球員會花很多時間留在Tulsa 66ers,就跟Perry Jones III、Jeremy Lamb一樣。雖然他們都是年輕有潛力的球員,但是他們都會在66ers慢慢成長。不管是誰 ,大概都不會獲得很多上場時間。 2. Who are the possible picks? ESPN's draft guru Chad Ford believes that the Thunder are going to draft a big man. Here is what he has to say in his 2nd mock draft: Chad Ford相信雷霆會選長人,他在第二版的mock draft中選了Gorgui Dieng: #12 Pick: Gorgui Dieng Really, Oklahoma City is set at every position. However, Dieng is the one player left on the board who probably could help them now. Not only is he physically ready for the NBA, he's a good shot-blocker, a solid rebounder and an excellent passer out of the high post. With the Thunder a little weak up front, I think Dieng could be a nice addition to their frontcourt. Dieng應該是他們能選到又能準備上NBA的球員。除此之外他還是火鍋製造機、籃板製造機 ,也是優秀的高位傳球者。Dieng應該能稍微補足雷霆有點弱的前場。 With that in mind, here are some possible draft selections for the Thunder with the #12 pick: Cody Zeller - The star from Indiana almost entered the draft last year as a freshman but decided to come back for his sophomore season. Zeller is a legitimate 7 footer who can score from anywhere. The one knock is that he isn't a terrific shooter. However, he is smart and can really run the floor. Unfortunately the likelihood of Zeller being around by the time the Thunder get a chance is low. Zeller去年差一點進入選秀。他是個在很多位置都能得分的7呎長人,問題只在於他並不 是很的射手。但是他很聰明,可以上場跑戰術。可惜的是雷霆選到他的機會不高。 Gorgui Dieng - The 6'11 Louisville Center is one of the most NBA ready players in the draft. He has an NBA body and can rebound and block shots. He won't light it up offensively but he could be effective right now. Dieng was a key piece to Louisville's national championship team. 這位6'11中鋒幾乎選秀中最NBA-Ready的人,他擁有NBA的身體素質,可以搶籃板、蓋火鍋 。他無法馬上刺激進攻,但是馬上就可以發揮影響力。Dieng是Louisville冠軍隊的重要 關鍵。 Mason Plumlee - Plumlee is a 6'11 center from Duke that is extremely experienced. The upside for Plumlee probably isn't near what it is for someone like Cody Zeller or Alex Len, but he is someone that is going to be able to contribute quickly. If you are looking for a solid defender and a finisher and rebounder Plumlee is your man. Plumlee isn't an outstanding offensive player, but he can do many other things well. 杜克的6'11中鋒,擁有很多的經驗。Plumlee的天花板或許遠不如Zeller或是Alex Len, 但是他是能馬上貢獻的球員。如果你需要一位好的防守者、完成戰術者或是籃板機,你就 該選Plumlee。他的攻擊不亮眼,但是他可以做其他事。 Alex Len - Might be the big with the most upside in the draft. He is a 7'1 center with a big frame. The freshman from Ukraine was inconsistent at Maryland, but still has NBA tools. The Thunder have had issues with drafting bigs on potential in the past (Byron Mullens, Cole Aldrich). His stock has also dropped a little bit because of a stress fracture that he has in his ankle. Len大概是選秀中天花板最高的長人,他是7'1的大個子。這位烏克蘭的大一學生很不穩定 ,但是他有NBA的tools。不過要注意的是雷霆選擇潛力中鋒的結果不是很好(Byron Mullens、Cole Aldrich),Len先前也有壓力性固折,因此價值下滑了一些。 Kelly Olynyk - The 7-0 Gonzaga Junior was one of the most improved players this year in college basketball. Olynyk has a surprisingly polished post game for someone in college. He was one of the most efficient players in college basketball this past year. He isn't the most athletic player, but what he lacks in athleticism he makes up skill and smarts. 7呎的Olynyk大學籃球中進步最多的球員,他有很棒的禁區技巧。他並沒有非常突出的運 動能力,但是他可以用技巧和智慧彌補。 Victor Oladipo - Zeller's teammate at Indiana is one of the most sought at prospects because of his athleticism and intangibles. Oladipo is an improving shooter and overall offensive player, but really shines on defense. Oladipo was able to score the ball easily at Indiana. I would compare Oladipo to a Tony Allen that can score the ball. Zeller的隊友Oladipo擁有運動能力和無形資產。Oladipo是個進步中的射手,整體來說攻 擊很棒;但他的防守更是相當的亮眼。Oladipo在Indiana能輕鬆得分,我會說他是能得分 的Tony Allen。 Shabazz Muhammad - One of the most sought after recruits coming out of high school, Muhammad is an exciting strong forward out of UCLA. Muhammad can flat score the ball, he can do it anyway you want. The chances of him being around are slim but he could be that Harden type of player the Thunder need. The knock on Muhammad is that he has a poor attitude and is a bad teammate, traits that are sure to raise red flags for the Thunder franchise. 高中畢業後是徵招時的熱門人選,他能輕鬆的得分、你要他做啥他就能做啥。撿到他的機 率很低,不過這就是雷霆想要的Harden型球員。他的最大問題在於態度不良,不是個好隊 友,所以或許雷霆不會找他來支撐球隊。 Michael Carter Williams - Williams is a point guard out of Syracuse. Williams is nearly 6'6 and can do it all. He is a terrific ball handler and decision maker, but is big enough that he can play and defend shooting guards. Carter-Williams has an enormous upside. 6'6控球後衛,很棒的持球者和decision maker,身體也夠大,足以打/守SG。Carter- Williams的天花板很高。 Kentavious Caldwell Pope - I really like Pope's game he can straight score the ball. He is a big athletic gurad that can shoot well, but also take you off the dribble. He was the SEC player of the year that has a high ceiling. Has yet to really prove whether or not he can defend but he can score. Pope很會得分,是個體能很棒的後衛,也是個很棒的射手─同時也能用運球撂倒對手。他 是SEC player of the year,擁有很高的天花板,他很能得分,但是還沒證明他能不能防 守。 The Thunder's next two picks (29 and 32) are much more difficult to forecast. It depends on who the team picks with their first pick and who else is left. With two picks that close together it is also very likely that Presti would deal one of them for either a player or more picks. 後面的兩支籤很難預測,或許Presti會拿去換球員或是往前換。 The fact of the matter is that no one knows what Presti is going to do. He has shown that he will draft someone overseas so that he can hold on to their rights, or that he will trade away the pick in order to generate future assets. Presti has assets on assets, an enviable position for a championship contender. The amount of young talent and draft picks that Presti has to his disposable might be the most that he has ever had. So these are some possible prospects the Thunder could go after but Presti could do anything with this. 不過沒人知道Presti下一步會怎麼做,到底是要直接選人還是拿去做其他事情呢? The Thunder might be at the point though that they can no longer keep trying to gain young talents and assets, and need to start going after proven players. The Heat for example has veteran guys like Birdman, Ray Allen, and Rashard Lewis coming off the bench. These are proven players that signed with the Heat for cheap in order to play with LeBron James and chase a championship ring. Those guys signed as free agents, but it might be time that the Thunder starts courting and going after players like this. At a certain point they are going to have to start trying to load up with players that are proven and can win now. But again, who knows what Sam Presti is planning on doing? Perhaps Presti himself doesn't even know yet. 也或許雷霆不該找尋年輕球員的幫助,可以像熱火找Ray Allen、鳥人、Lewis之流來擔任 替補,這些人為了跟LBJ打球搶冠軍戒而願意降低薪水─或許雷霆也該尋求這種模式。 不過或許連Presti都還沒想好要怎麼做。 -- What is the Thunder's biggest need? 90% Center (85 votes) 2% Shooting Guard (2 votes) 7% Bench Player (7 votes) 0% They don't have any needs (0 votes) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.117.20.246

05/11 23:49, , 1F
總管我好想要一個能低位進攻 籃下攪和的中鋒阿...
05/11 23:49, 1F

05/11 23:52, , 2F
總管踹共
05/11 23:52, 2F

05/11 23:53, , 3F
好想要低位進攻中鋒(淚
05/11 23:53, 3F

05/11 23:56, , 4F
選一個完成度高的內線吧 新秀約綁四年 再給Brooks冰個兩年
05/11 23:56, 4F

05/11 23:57, , 5F
需要練的幾乎是有練出來就要FA了 幾乎又確定簽不下
05/11 23:57, 5F

05/12 00:01, , 6F
現階段要的是即戰力 而不是潛力 新秀找防守型 老將找進攻型
05/12 00:01, 6F

05/12 00:23, , 7F
選了Scott也不肯用阿
05/12 00:23, 7F

05/12 00:24, , 8F
選個即戰力衝擊總冠軍!
05/12 00:24, 8F

05/12 03:11, , 9F
其實我覺得打包往前換的機率很高
05/12 03:11, 9F

05/12 03:14, , 10F
第一段是說兩週後樂透開獎不是選秀
05/12 03:14, 10F

05/12 08:12, , 11F
不管即戰力還是潛力都好 重點是教練要用
05/12 08:12, 11F

05/12 09:56, , 12F
Kelly是好的選擇!
05/12 09:56, 12F

05/12 14:22, , 13F
這幾個長人除了Len跟Olynek有可能會有低位進攻
05/12 14:22, 13F

05/12 14:23, , 14F
剩下幾個不知道雷霆會不會養得起來低位攪和= =
05/12 14:23, 14F

05/12 14:23, , 15F
是滿想選Zeller的啦 但臂展除了防守不力外
05/12 14:23, 15F

05/12 14:24, , 16F
不知道會不會影響到進攻就是了 雖然可能選不道= =
05/12 14:24, 16F

05/14 18:24, , 17F
需要逼逼逼
05/14 18:24, 17F
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