Re: [心得] 萬年賣家

看板MIN-Twins作者 (abc12812)時間17年前 (2007/11/30 15:26), 編輯推噓13(1307)
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※ 引述《yellow030 ()》之銘言: : ※ 引述《abc12812 (abc12812)》之銘言: : : 看來你連最基本的新秀等級都搞不清楚 : : 教教你好了 : : 免的你繼續鬧笑話 : : 洋基: : : type A:Jose Tabata/Philip Hughes/Joba Chamberlain : : type B:Austin Jackson/Ian Kennedy : : type C: : : type D:Melky Cabrera : : trash:Tyler Clippard/Matt DeSalvo/Brian Bruney/Jeff Karstens/Ross Ohlendorf : : 紅襪: : : type A:Jacoby Ellsbury/Clay Buchholz : : type B:Jon Lester/Craig Hansen : : type C:Kason Gabbard : : 天使: : : type A:Brandon Wood/Nick Adenhart/Howie Kendrick : : type B:Casey Kotchman/Ervin Santana/ : : type C:Joe Saunders : : 大都會:你根本就不知道大都會有什麼貨,還敢來po文? : : type A:Lastings Milledge/Carlos Gomez/Mike Pelfrey/Fernando Martinez : 我當然知道NYM提出什麼offer : 這個去MLB板看就有了 : 我只是說出雙城想要Jose Reyes或是David Wright : 但是大都會老闆說免談 : 所以交易可能比較小 : : type B:Joe Smith/Philip Humber/Ruben Gotay : : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : : 推文說過了,是別人求雙城,不是雙城求別人 : : 主動被動要搞好 : : 不然英文是學不好的,無法去國外網站吸收知識 : : 只能被國內新聞還有無知的鄉民愚弄 : : 懂了沒? : 我想搞不懂狀況的是你吧 : 如果雙城GM 不放消息開放各隊對山大王報價 : 會有這麼多球隊開始提offer??會現在傳山大王交易案傳這麼兇?? : 而且我上ㄧ篇的筆誤我也在底下推文解釋了 : 還勞你費心再多PO一篇文章來反駁喔 : 昨天我PO文的時候 說洋基在競爭隊伍中佔優勢也不是我這麼認為而已 : 在MLB版的每日動態 上面翻外電也有提到(不過今天又不同了) : 既然abc大這麼強 英文這麼好 : 人家國外的記者在發新聞稿時 你也不會在這上PTT啦 沒錯,我就是不夠專業 才會提出什麼至少要Joba Chamberlain和Ian Kennedy這種卑微的要求 來看看真正專業的雙城迷所認為合理的包裹是什麼,順便練練英文 洋基:http://tinyurl.com/yu6gfh 新秀:Joba Chamberlain/Ian Kennedy/Philip Hughes/Mitch Hilligoss/Jose Tabata Yankee Wrap: This is the Yankees, the team with the highest payroll in the game and the team with funds seemingly available at their will. For this reason they're probably getting the steepest of offers, because they can afford it. Package Offer #1: All five. Package Offer #2: One of the pitchers, Robinson Cano and the two position players. Coal-raking? Yes. Likely? Probably not, but that's okay because there will be better offers from elsewhere. Frankly, this is the kind of offer I believe the Twins need to receive in order to trade Johan. An offer that makes you think "Hmmm, I guess this is okay" isn't good enough. Each team in play is going to be willing to give up quite a bit to earn Santana, and one of those teams will have to do something to make the Twins lean in their direction. This is the kind of player whose winning offer should blow your socks off, bottom line. Additionally, the Twins don't NEED to trade Johan at this juncture. There's always the possibility of an extension and trade down the line. And because Minneosta doesn't NEED to trade Johan now, there's is absolutely no reason to get screwed and no reason to not get the best out of the bargain. 大都會:http://tinyurl.com/2v3our 新秀:Lastings Milledge/David Wright/Fernando Martinez/Mike Pelfrey/Carlos Gomez Mets Wrap:The New York Mets are short on major-league ready talent in their farm system. Only the young Martinez didn't see time in The Show last fall; the cavalry has already been called, there is no more help for the Mets. This could make them extremely reluctant to part with a number of these players, which could make them difficult partners in a swap the magnitude of Santana's. Package #1: David Wright and Fernando Martinez. Package #2: Milledge, Gomez, Pelfrey and Martinez. Swapping out Pelfrey for Humber is fine; cutting Martinez out of package #2 makes it much more realistic and a little less appealing from the Twins angle. I realize I'm expecting a lot, but I should hope that Minnesota would be asking other teams to make difficult decisions as well. David Wright is as untouchable as you can get...but it's also Johan freaking Santana. What combination would you do this for? 道奇:http://tinyurl.com/2o4w8f 新秀:Delwyn Young/Matt Kemp/Clayton Kershaw/Andy LaRoche Dodger Wrap: There are a number of other players who spark my interest (Andre Ethier, Chad Billingsley, James Loney, Xavier Paul, Ivan DeJesus, and even Scott Elbert, who had arthroscopic surgery on his labrum to remove scar tissue last June), but these are the main four guys I'd be building by starting offer around. All four have good ceilings, are young and will remain affordable for Minnesota in the near future. More importantly, the position players are offensive performers at positions of need for the Twins. My package offerings are a bit looser this time, mostly because there are so many players I like. Package One: Andy LaRoche, Matt Kemp & Clayton Kershaw. OR... Pick Two AND Pick One -OR- Pick Two Young Ethier Paul Kemp Billingsley DeJesus Kershaw Loney Elbert LaRoche From the buffet line I'll have Young, LaRoche and Ethier, please... Of the three teams I've scourged so far, the Dodgers are by far the best fit. Not only are they a financial heavyweight who can absorb Santana with a smile, they also have young but MLB-ready position player talent. For a team ruled by the dollar, the Twins should be taking a long hard look to Los Angeles if they decide trading Johan is the best way to go. We might know what way that is by the time the Winter Meetings begin on December 3rd. Stay tuned. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.5.3 ※ 編輯: abc12812 來自: 140.112.5.3 (11/30 15:27)

11/30 15:38, , 1F
這樣看的話...Aaron Gleeman算很客氣了
11/30 15:38, 1F

11/30 17:36, , 2F
也許Johan值這個價 那請問大大紅襪該出哪些球員換?
11/30 17:36, 2F

11/30 17:37, , 3F
這個要的有狠XD
11/30 17:37, 3F

11/30 18:27, , 4F
很合理阿~~老大就是值這個價
11/30 18:27, 4F

12/01 04:03, , 5F
紅襪勒? 一起列出來啊
12/01 04:03, 5F

12/01 12:33, , 6F
照你分的type 這樣洋基是3個type A 那紅襪出Ellsbury,
12/01 12:33, 6F

12/01 12:36, , 7F
Buchholz 都還搶不到耶0rz
12/01 12:36, 7F

12/01 21:23, , 8F
樓上,洋基又不會都出3個type A...
12/01 21:23, 8F

12/02 00:00, , 9F
樓上我是說這篇文章球迷所要求的offer耶
12/02 00:00, 9F

12/02 04:30, , 10F
哈如果有人照他出的價這樣標,我會建議那個GM去看醫生....
12/02 04:30, 10F

12/02 04:31, , 11F
挖了幾個洞補一個壹號先發,看起來不見得能增加多少競爭力
12/02 04:31, 11F

12/02 04:33, , 12F
能出的起又對球隊傷害較小的,大概只有躲人了吧
12/02 04:33, 12F

12/02 14:06, , 13F
我認為上述各隊若是以這樣的價碼成交 只能說GM可悲
12/02 14:06, 13F

12/02 14:07, , 14F
山大王是在巔峰 頂級新秀未來可是無可限量 可好可壞
12/02 14:07, 14F

12/02 15:05, , 15F
果然只是雙城"迷"的幻想
12/02 15:05, 15F

12/02 15:46, , 16F
所以可以對比一下洋基迷的幻想囉...呵....
12/02 15:46, 16F

12/02 15:56, , 17F
同意樓上XD
12/02 15:56, 17F

12/02 15:59, , 18F
不過人家可是cclu等級的球迷
12/02 15:59, 18F

12/02 17:53, , 19F
CCLu變成等級了XDDD
12/02 17:53, 19F

07/02 18:58, 5年前 , 20F
不過人家可是cclu等 https://muxiv.com
07/02 18:58, 20F
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