Re: [情報] 老爹開噴Devers

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者 (polanco)時間3小時前 (2025/06/23 14:18), 3小時前編輯推噓38(468106)
留言160則, 32人參與, 23分鐘前最新討論串4/5 (看更多)
參考Jeff Passan的報導 https://bit.ly/4kS9vhR 節錄紅襪跟Devers怎麼談那幾段 Then Boston made its final offer to Bregman as negotiations with other teams wou nd down: three years, $120 million, with opt-outs after the first two seasons. W ithin an hour, Bregman accepted. Devers found out when the news broke. He was no t panicked -- Red Sox officials said privately they planned on using Bregman at second base -- but the move registered as curious nevertheless. When Devers showed up at spring training, the team broached the idea of him shif ting to designated hitter. Their computer model said the best version of the 202 5 Red Sox would feature reigning Minor League Player of the Year Kristian Campbe ll at second base, Bregman at third and Devers at DH. Devers was livid. A player 's position is part of his identity. He was a third baseman. Beyond that, though , was a breach in the trust implicit in a contract of Devers' magnitude. At the very least, if the Red Sox were intent on him moving positions, he wanted to ease into the new role. Play a couple times a week at third base and take th e rest of his at-bats as DH. No, he was told. This was what was best for the tea m. The front office's tack reinforced the feeling in the clubhouse that the organiz ation's reliance on analytics for decision-making had come at the expense of pro ductive interpersonal communication. At the same time, players acknowledged that Devers DHing probably would allow them to field their best lineup. After initia lly saying he wouldn't DH, Devers wound up relenting. After Cora told him to not even bother bringing a glove to the spring training fields, he was comfortable that at least he could focus only on hitting. Everything changed on May 2. First baseman Triston Casas suffered a season-endin g knee injury. The internal options were limited. Breslow approached Devers abou t moving to first. Devers couldn't believe it. He had already changed positions against his will once. Now the Red Sox were asking him to do it again. The disre spect galled him. 按時間線大概就 Bregman簽約,紅襪高層私下告訴Devers球隊要讓Bregman當二壘手,所以Devers知道消息的 時候不覺得緊張 呆佛春訓報到,紅襪告訴他電腦預測的今年最佳陣容是Campbell二壘Bregman三壘他去DH, 呆佛不爽 呆佛說要轉至少要讓他先適應一下,可不可以在三壘DH兩頭跑,紅襪拒絕 呆佛一開始說不要,後來妥協,柯拉告訴春訓他不用帶手套後他覺得安心,至少可以專心打 擊 這段也有提到有更衣室成員覺得制服組太過依賴數據分析忽略有效溝通,但也覺得呆佛打DH 確實能排出紅襪的最佳陣容 然後就是Casas受傷報銷,內部沒人頂,Breslow問呆佛能不能轉。呆佛不敢相信,覺得前面 紅襪已經違反他意願一次了,這次再問根本就不尊重他,更不爽 之後發展就呆佛跟媒體說不會去一壘,老闆跟大頭們親自飛去溝通,呆佛說如果要他轉一壘 他2026會準備好,紅襪對外發表說這些對話富有成效 然後就交易了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 223.139.135.178 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1750659528.A.4E2.html ※ 編輯: polanco (223.139.135.178 臺灣), 06/23/2025 14:23:04

06/23 14:23, 3小時前 , 1F
就 紅襪出爾反爾
06/23 14:23, 1F

06/23 14:25, 3小時前 , 2F
不就紅襪FO一直在騙,呆佛發現真的被當呆子耍所以不爽XD
06/23 14:25, 2F
※ 編輯: polanco (223.139.135.178 臺灣), 06/23/2025 14:29:47 ※ 編輯: polanco (223.139.135.178 臺灣), 06/23/2025 14:31:42

06/23 14:34, 3小時前 , 3F
哪個軟體要到春訓報到才能算出Campbell二壘Bregman三壘
06/23 14:34, 3F

06/23 14:34, 3小時前 , 4F
Devers DH是最佳陣容啊
06/23 14:34, 4F

06/23 14:39, 3小時前 , 5F
怎麼看都紅襪管理自己在搞 呆佛有啥錯
06/23 14:39, 5F

06/23 14:46, 2小時前 , 6F
就鄉民覺得領30M的人應該要事事都很聽話。
06/23 14:46, 6F

06/23 14:48, 2小時前 , 7F
Devers不配合換守位破壞陣容彈性,不爽應該要私底下罵
06/23 14:48, 7F

06/23 14:48, 2小時前 , 8F
就好 怎麼可以拿到檯面破壞皇城和氣呢 被交易剛好 讓
06/23 14:48, 8F

06/23 14:48, 2小時前 , 9F
我們繼續檢討Devers
06/23 14:48, 9F

06/23 14:50, 2小時前 , 10F
本來覺得Devers有點自我,看完越來越覺得球團很搞
06/23 14:50, 10F

06/23 14:50, 2小時前 , 11F
這時候突然很佩服Boone跟Judge,這幾年的幾個聲仔Stro
06/23 14:50, 11F

06/23 14:50, 2小時前 , 12F
man Verdugo甚至Soto每個都乖乖的 球團公關訓練很到位
06/23 14:50, 12F

06/23 14:51, 2小時前 , 13F
更正一下好了 避免被拿來做文章 Soto不算聲 只是有點
06/23 14:51, 13F

06/23 14:51, 2小時前 , 14F
自我
06/23 14:51, 14F

06/23 14:58, 2小時前 , 15F
不管啦 領這麼多錢 要無條件配合 然後這資訊某些人沒有
06/23 14:58, 15F

06/23 14:58, 2小時前 , 16F
你po出來勝之不武 讓我們繼續檢討Devers可以嗎
06/23 14:58, 16F

06/23 14:59, 2小時前 , 17F
洋基確實好棒棒 快別執著devers了啦
06/23 14:59, 17F

06/23 15:00, 2小時前 , 18F
去都促好棒棒洋基想辦法幫法官拿戒指
06/23 15:00, 18F

06/23 15:01, 2小時前 , 19F
世紀最佳打者兩手空空 都替他覺得可憐
06/23 15:01, 19F

06/23 15:02, 2小時前 , 20F
突然一個鬼轉
06/23 15:02, 20F

06/23 15:02, 2小時前 , 21F
紅襪球星再怎麼悲哀 離開都有戒指了
06/23 15:02, 21F

06/23 15:02, 2小時前 , 22F
洋基加油喔 ...
06/23 15:02, 22F

06/23 15:04, 2小時前 , 23F
看吧又來了XD 永遠的二分法,反正討論到爛了,反正雙方
06/23 15:04, 23F

06/23 15:04, 2小時前 , 24F
都有錯 事情也結束了就各自安好吧
06/23 15:04, 24F

06/23 15:05, 2小時前 , 25F
對了要可憐麻煩去可憐Campbell吧,被搞一個打擊低潮守備
06/23 15:05, 25F

06/23 15:05, 2小時前 , 26F
到現在還在練1B而且還沒守過
06/23 15:05, 26F

06/23 15:06, 2小時前 , 27F
其實就算Ortiz嘴也不會讓這件事討論如此熱烈 大抵昨晚那
06/23 15:06, 27F

06/23 15:06, 2小時前 , 28F
個很懂紅襪的版友讓我一直想不通 今天闡述的非紅襪迷的論
06/23 15:06, 28F

06/23 15:06, 2小時前 , 29F
點 他又跳針質疑那些資訊 說他不知道不公平 只能說 你都
06/23 15:06, 29F

06/23 15:06, 2小時前 , 30F
沒完全了解 還嘴個半天 現在出現好心人士直接都翻給你了
06/23 15:06, 30F

06/23 15:06, 2小時前 , 31F
現在又有人開始無釐頭攻擊洋基 這真的太有趣了
06/23 15:06, 31F

06/23 15:07, 2小時前 , 32F
洋基關心紅襪事物很好啊...
06/23 15:07, 32F

06/23 15:08, 2小時前 , 33F
我關心一下法官你就跳腳 何解?
06/23 15:08, 33F

06/23 15:10, 2小時前 , 34F
我沒有跳腳啊 史上名將拿不到戒指又不是新聞 棒球最有魅
06/23 15:10, 34F

06/23 15:10, 2小時前 , 35F
力就是充滿意外和驚奇啊
06/23 15:10, 35F

06/23 15:11, 2小時前 , 36F
洋基自己本身有很多自己問題 XD但不會拿出來跟所有人一起
06/23 15:11, 36F

06/23 15:11, 2小時前 , 37F
檢討而已
06/23 15:11, 37F

06/23 15:13, 2小時前 , 38F
所以紅襪有溝通問題 基迷一直檢討
06/23 15:13, 38F
還有 82 則推文
06/23 15:59, 1小時前 , 121F
戰起來!!
06/23 15:59, 121F

06/23 16:00, 1小時前 , 122F
著實哀傷 替他抱不平而已
06/23 16:00, 122F

06/23 16:00, 1小時前 , 123F
兩個襪迷就能讓討論歪成這樣真的有點猛
06/23 16:00, 123F

06/23 16:00, 1小時前 , 124F
我前面就說洋基是好棒棒球團了
06/23 16:00, 124F

06/23 16:00, 1小時前 , 125F
往前翻一下就有
06/23 16:00, 125F

06/23 16:01, 1小時前 , 126F
超好笑 有人二分法但好像有自己人不想跟他分在一起
06/23 16:01, 126F

06/23 16:02, 1小時前 , 127F
基迷想帶風向 襪迷當然要歪樓的啊
06/23 16:02, 127F

06/23 16:04, 1小時前 , 128F
我不知道批評慣老闆是帶風向
06/23 16:04, 128F

06/23 16:04, 1小時前 , 129F
翻譯個紅襪的溝通過程怎麼就變帶風向了
06/23 16:04, 129F

06/23 16:07, 1小時前 , 130F
這真的蠻扯的
06/23 16:07, 130F

06/23 16:08, 1小時前 , 131F
歪樓為什麼不去怪前面dinos又要怪襪迷了?
06/23 16:08, 131F

06/23 16:09, 1小時前 , 132F
有問題通通怪給襪迷就對了?
06/23 16:09, 132F

06/23 16:10, 1小時前 , 133F
推文最前面一堆基迷見縫插針也都視而不見
06/23 16:10, 133F

06/23 16:12, 1小時前 , 134F
是不是帶風向 見仁見智囉
06/23 16:12, 134F

06/23 16:12, 1小時前 , 135F
笑死 有人一直崩潰
06/23 16:12, 135F

06/23 16:20, 1小時前 , 136F
你都往前看到dinos了怎麼不再往前一點看一下戒指是如何
06/23 16:20, 136F

06/23 16:20, 1小時前 , 137F
出現這篇毫無關係的文章的推文中的
06/23 16:20, 137F

06/23 16:21, 1小時前 , 138F
還是那位被你黑單了看不到
06/23 16:21, 138F

06/23 16:23, 1小時前 , 139F
紅襪迷互啄
06/23 16:23, 139F

06/23 16:25, 1小時前 , 140F
你們一堆基迷+其它迷狂酸我們FO,我們反酸一下都不行?XD
06/23 16:25, 140F

06/23 16:25, 1小時前 , 141F
看襪迷內鬥也是頗呵
06/23 16:25, 141F

06/23 16:27, 1小時前 , 142F
就直接規定某迷說什麼都可以,襪迷通通不行這樣好不好
06/23 16:27, 142F

06/23 16:36, 1小時前 , 143F
這篇文在講FO 突然提無關的法官沒戒指然後自己吵起來了
06/23 16:36, 143F

06/23 16:36, 1小時前 , 144F
要也是針對文章內容反駁吧
06/23 16:36, 144F

06/23 16:38, 1小時前 , 145F
所以某dinos也是針對內容對吧
06/23 16:38, 145F

06/23 16:39, 1小時前 , 146F
還是又要切割次元刃了
06/23 16:39, 146F

06/23 16:41, 1小時前 , 147F
電腦分析,開個六給他
06/23 16:41, 147F

06/23 16:42, 1小時前 , 148F
所以誰先開的頭嘛 戰場誰開的
06/23 16:42, 148F

06/23 16:43, 1小時前 , 149F
當然是襪迷開的,因為基迷可以酸襪但襪迷不能酸基
06/23 16:43, 149F

06/23 16:45, 1小時前 , 150F
都給你們講就好,乾脆以後MLB 版直接封鎖襪版友好不好
06/23 16:45, 150F

06/23 16:46, 59分鐘前 , 151F
dinos已經回應他囉 有問題去看前面
06/23 16:46, 151F

06/23 16:48, 57分鐘前 , 152F
haha兄不爽dinos酸純度 覺得是襪迷內鬥也是十分有趣
06/23 16:48, 152F

06/23 16:48, 57分鐘前 , 153F
戰起來 一起模糊焦點吧 gogogo!
06/23 16:48, 153F

06/23 16:50, 55分鐘前 , 154F
噗 噗噗
06/23 16:50, 154F

06/23 16:55, 50分鐘前 , 155F
以為在玩The Show喔 想球員移去哪就移去哪
06/23 16:55, 155F

06/23 16:59, 46分鐘前 , 156F
Devers真的沒什麼大問題
06/23 16:59, 156F

06/23 17:09, 36分鐘前 , 157F
怎一堆襪迷跟小草一樣不可理喻
06/23 17:09, 157F

06/23 17:18, 27分鐘前 , 158F
我開個會回來 好熱鬧 XD
06/23 17:18, 158F

06/23 17:21, 24分鐘前 , 159F
台灣嘛 基襪迷就是這樣的
06/23 17:21, 159F

06/23 17:22, 23分鐘前 , 160F
牙起來沒人可以介入他們的世界
06/23 17:22, 160F
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