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Re: [情報] 老爹開噴Devers

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者 (polanco)時間3周前 (2025/06/23 14:18), 3周前編輯推噓56(68推 12噓 130→)
留言210則, 50人參與, 3周前最新討論串4/5 (看更多)
參考Jeff Passan的報導 https://bit.ly/4kS9vhR 節錄紅襪跟Devers怎麼談那幾段 Then Boston made its final offer to Bregman as negotiations with other teams wou nd down: three years, $120 million, with opt-outs after the first two seasons. W ithin an hour, Bregman accepted. Devers found out when the news broke. He was no t panicked -- Red Sox officials said privately they planned on using Bregman at second base -- but the move registered as curious nevertheless. When Devers showed up at spring training, the team broached the idea of him shif ting to designated hitter. Their computer model said the best version of the 202 5 Red Sox would feature reigning Minor League Player of the Year Kristian Campbe ll at second base, Bregman at third and Devers at DH. Devers was livid. A player 's position is part of his identity. He was a third baseman. Beyond that, though , was a breach in the trust implicit in a contract of Devers' magnitude. At the very least, if the Red Sox were intent on him moving positions, he wanted to ease into the new role. Play a couple times a week at third base and take th e rest of his at-bats as DH. No, he was told. This was what was best for the tea m. The front office's tack reinforced the feeling in the clubhouse that the organiz ation's reliance on analytics for decision-making had come at the expense of pro ductive interpersonal communication. At the same time, players acknowledged that Devers DHing probably would allow them to field their best lineup. After initia lly saying he wouldn't DH, Devers wound up relenting. After Cora told him to not even bother bringing a glove to the spring training fields, he was comfortable that at least he could focus only on hitting. Everything changed on May 2. First baseman Triston Casas suffered a season-endin g knee injury. The internal options were limited. Breslow approached Devers abou t moving to first. Devers couldn't believe it. He had already changed positions against his will once. Now the Red Sox were asking him to do it again. The disre spect galled him. 按時間線大概就 Bregman簽約，紅襪高層私下告訴Devers球隊要讓Bregman當二壘手，所以Devers知道消息的 時候不覺得緊張 呆佛春訓報到，紅襪告訴他電腦預測的今年最佳陣容是Campbell二壘Bregman三壘他去DH， 呆佛不爽 呆佛說要轉至少要讓他先適應一下，可不可以在三壘DH兩頭跑，紅襪拒絕 呆佛一開始說不要，後來妥協，柯拉告訴春訓他不用帶手套後他覺得安心，至少可以專心打 擊 這段也有提到有更衣室成員覺得制服組太過依賴數據分析忽略有效溝通，但也覺得呆佛打DH 確實能排出紅襪的最佳陣容 然後就是Casas受傷報銷，內部沒人頂，Breslow問呆佛能不能轉。呆佛不敢相信，覺得前面 紅襪已經違反他意願一次了，這次再問根本就不尊重他，更不爽 之後發展就呆佛跟媒體說不會去一壘，老闆跟大頭們親自飛去溝通，呆佛說如果要他轉一壘 他2026會準備好，紅襪對外發表說這些對話富有成效 然後就交易了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 223.139.135.178 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1750659528.A.4E2.html ※ 編輯: polanco (223.139.135.178 臺灣), 06/23/2025 14:23:04
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06/23 14:23, 3周前 , 1F
就 紅襪出爾反爾
06/23 14:23, 1F
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06/23 14:25, 3周前 , 2F
不就紅襪FO一直在騙,呆佛發現真的被當呆子耍所以不爽XD
06/23 14:25, 2F
※ 編輯: polanco (223.139.135.178 臺灣), 06/23/2025 14:29:47 ※ 編輯: polanco (223.139.135.178 臺灣), 06/23/2025 14:31:42
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06/23 14:34, 3周前 , 3F
哪個軟體要到春訓報到才能算出Campbell二壘Bregman三壘
06/23 14:34, 3F
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06/23 14:34, 3周前 , 4F
Devers DH是最佳陣容啊
06/23 14:34, 4F
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06/23 14:39, 3周前 , 5F
怎麼看都紅襪管理自己在搞 呆佛有啥錯
06/23 14:39, 5F
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06/23 14:46, 3周前 , 6F
就鄉民覺得領30M的人應該要事事都很聽話。
06/23 14:46, 6F
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06/23 14:48, 3周前 , 7F
Devers不配合換守位破壞陣容彈性，不爽應該要私底下罵
06/23 14:48, 7F
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06/23 14:48, 3周前 , 8F
就好 怎麼可以拿到檯面破壞皇城和氣呢 被交易剛好 讓
06/23 14:48, 8F
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06/23 14:48, 3周前 , 9F
我們繼續檢討Devers
06/23 14:48, 9F
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06/23 14:50, 3周前 , 10F
本來覺得Devers有點自我，看完越來越覺得球團很搞
06/23 14:50, 10F
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06/23 14:50, 3周前 , 11F
這時候突然很佩服Boone跟Judge，這幾年的幾個聲仔Stro
06/23 14:50, 11F
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06/23 14:50, 3周前 , 12F
man Verdugo甚至Soto每個都乖乖的 球團公關訓練很到位
06/23 14:50, 12F
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06/23 14:51, 3周前 , 13F
更正一下好了 避免被拿來做文章 Soto不算聲 只是有點
06/23 14:51, 13F
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06/23 14:51, 3周前 , 14F
自我
06/23 14:51, 14F
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06/23 14:58, 3周前 , 15F
不管啦 領這麼多錢 要無條件配合 然後這資訊某些人沒有
06/23 14:58, 15F
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06/23 14:58, 3周前 , 16F
你po出來勝之不武 讓我們繼續檢討Devers可以嗎
06/23 14:58, 16F
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06/23 14:59, 3周前 , 17F
洋基確實好棒棒 快別執著devers了啦
06/23 14:59, 17F
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06/23 15:00, 3周前 , 18F
去都促好棒棒洋基想辦法幫法官拿戒指
06/23 15:00, 18F
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06/23 15:01, 3周前 , 19F
世紀最佳打者兩手空空 都替他覺得可憐
06/23 15:01, 19F
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06/23 15:02, 3周前 , 20F
突然一個鬼轉
06/23 15:02, 20F
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06/23 15:02, 3周前 , 21F
紅襪球星再怎麼悲哀 離開都有戒指了
06/23 15:02, 21F
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06/23 15:02, 3周前 , 22F
洋基加油喔 ...
06/23 15:02, 22F
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06/23 15:04, 3周前 , 23F
看吧又來了XD 永遠的二分法，反正討論到爛了，反正雙方
06/23 15:04, 23F
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06/23 15:04, 3周前 , 24F
都有錯 事情也結束了就各自安好吧
06/23 15:04, 24F
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06/23 15:05, 3周前 , 25F
對了要可憐麻煩去可憐Campbell吧，被搞一個打擊低潮守備
06/23 15:05, 25F
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06/23 15:05, 3周前 , 26F
到現在還在練1B而且還沒守過
06/23 15:05, 26F
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06/23 15:06, 3周前 , 27F
其實就算Ortiz嘴也不會讓這件事討論如此熱烈 大抵昨晚那
06/23 15:06, 27F
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06/23 15:06, 3周前 , 28F
個很懂紅襪的版友讓我一直想不通 今天闡述的非紅襪迷的論
06/23 15:06, 28F
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06/23 15:06, 3周前 , 29F
點 他又跳針質疑那些資訊 說他不知道不公平 只能說 你都
06/23 15:06, 29F
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06/23 15:06, 3周前 , 30F
沒完全了解 還嘴個半天 現在出現好心人士直接都翻給你了
06/23 15:06, 30F
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06/23 15:06, 3周前 , 31F
現在又有人開始無釐頭攻擊洋基 這真的太有趣了
06/23 15:06, 31F
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06/23 15:07, 3周前 , 32F
洋基關心紅襪事物很好啊...
06/23 15:07, 32F
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06/23 15:08, 3周前 , 33F
我關心一下法官你就跳腳 何解？
06/23 15:08, 33F
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06/23 15:10, 3周前 , 34F
我沒有跳腳啊 史上名將拿不到戒指又不是新聞 棒球最有魅
06/23 15:10, 34F
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06/23 15:10, 3周前 , 35F
力就是充滿意外和驚奇啊
06/23 15:10, 35F
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06/23 15:11, 3周前 , 36F
洋基自己本身有很多自己問題 XD但不會拿出來跟所有人一起
06/23 15:11, 36F
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06/23 15:11, 3周前 , 37F
檢討而已
06/23 15:11, 37F
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06/23 15:13, 3周前 , 38F
所以紅襪有溝通問題 基迷一直檢討
06/23 15:13, 38F
還有 132 則推文
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06/23 19:36, 3周前 , 171F
"不肯擔任球隊大哥的角色"這個真的不知道 有新聞來源嗎
06/23 19:36, 171F
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06/23 19:50, 3周前 , 172F
紅襪版 #1eKNUrMp
06/23 19:50, 172F
噓
06/23 20:21, 3周前 , 173F
笑死人了每篇某人都在跳腳呢
06/23 20:21, 173F
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06/23 20:30, 3周前 , 174F
看了一下 是專欄作家寫的 重點是連紅襪哪個人跟他講的
06/23 20:30, 174F
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06/23 20:31, 3周前 , 175F
都沒寫 這種的都市傳聞看看笑笑就好
06/23 20:31, 175F
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06/23 20:41, 3周前 , 176F
笑死討論FO溝通問題，襪迷：法官沒戒指！
06/23 20:41, 176F
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06/23 20:43, 3周前 , 177F
所以球迷跟FO的溝通能力是不是差不多好
06/23 20:43, 177F
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06/23 23:04, 3周前 , 178F
笑話 您基迷關心紅襪虧待呆佛
06/23 23:04, 178F
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06/23 23:05, 3周前 , 179F
我襪迷就不能擔心好棒棒洋基擔誤法官
06/23 23:05, 179F
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06/23 23:06, 3周前 , 180F
誰在跟你溝通 這叫各自表述 懂？
06/23 23:06, 180F
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06/23 23:31, 3周前 , 181F
好喔好喔，各自表述這種扯淡都出來了，我也就不多說什
06/23 23:31, 181F
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06/23 23:32, 3周前 , 182F
麼了
06/23 23:32, 182F
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06/23 23:35, 3周前 , 183F
怎麼看都是紅襪問題啊
06/23 23:35, 183F
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06/23 23:49, 3周前 , 184F
直接離題惱羞真的黑人問號
06/23 23:49, 184F
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06/23 23:50, 3周前 , 185F
真的 笑死
06/23 23:50, 185F
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06/24 00:06, 3周前 , 186F
就是想離題啊 有問題嗎 不然要被帶風向嗎 呵呵
06/24 00:06, 186F
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06/24 00:11, 3周前 , 187F
離題惱羞真的笑死Xd
06/24 00:11, 187F
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06/24 01:11, 3周前 , 188F
當笑話看當然沒問題
06/24 01:11, 188F
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06/24 01:30, 3周前 , 189F
是不用笑法官無冕啦 替他可惜而已
06/24 01:30, 189F
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06/24 02:00, 3周前 , 190F
果然是溝通能力有問題
06/24 02:00, 190F
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06/24 04:04, 3周前 , 191F
哇，推文裡還有紅襪FO迷
06/24 04:04, 191F
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06/24 04:56, 3周前 , 192F
紅襪FO迷恐怖如斯
06/24 04:56, 192F
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06/24 06:37, 3周前 , 193F
不懂就問 FO迷是什麼意思? 謝謝
06/24 06:37, 193F
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06/24 07:36, 3周前 , 194F
就FO(制服組)的粉絲
06/24 07:36, 194F
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06/24 07:37, 3周前 , 195F
推文大混戰超好笑
06/24 07:37, 195F
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06/24 07:38, 3周前 , 196F
波士頓也有自己的趙麻石
06/24 07:38, 196F
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06/24 07:52, 3周前 , 197F
有人覺得靠作弊奪冠值得大吹特吹呢....頗有Rosie Ruiz風格
06/24 07:52, 197F
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06/24 08:43, 3周前 , 198F
襪迷在老爹開噴Devers的討論串裡檢討Judge無冠XD尊
06/24 08:43, 198F
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06/24 08:43, 3周前 , 199F
重一下當事人嘛
06/24 08:43, 199F
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06/24 08:45, 3周前 , 200F
我基迷強烈歡迎襪迷另外開一篇開臭洋基FO，我保證
06/24 08:45, 200F
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06/24 08:45, 3周前 , 201F
一堆基迷跑來讚聲
06/24 08:45, 201F
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06/24 08:49, 3周前 , 202F
2018不是襪迷自吹 是外媒吹 懂？
06/24 08:49, 202F
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06/24 08:50, 3周前 , 203F
你個人毛多想放大鏡檢視也沒問題
06/24 08:50, 203F
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06/24 08:51, 3周前 , 204F
還有04 07 13讓你慢慢挑毛病喔 加油
06/24 08:51, 204F
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06/24 08:53, 3周前 , 205F
若發現有能幫忙法官奪冠細節
06/24 08:53, 205F
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06/24 08:54, 3周前 , 206F
你也是功德一件
06/24 08:54, 206F
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06/24 09:00, 3周前 , 207F
很久沒在這個版看到小丑了 直接醞釀一波大的
06/24 09:00, 207F
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06/24 09:33, 3周前 , 208F
謝謝A大的回答
06/24 09:33, 208F
噓
06/24 10:46, 3周前 , 209F
某d 你嘴巴放乾淨一點，哪隊哪年靠作弊奪冠？證據？
06/24 10:46, 209F
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06/26 20:12, 3周前 , 210F
06/26 20:12, 210F
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