Re: [新聞]NBA》Stockton談GOAT之爭挺Jordan 暗酸LBJ「搭直升機登頂」
看板NBA (美國籃球)作者kidd007008 (誰是接班人)時間2周前 (2025/08/11 11:28)推噓150(165推 15噓 312→)留言492則, 128人參與討論串12/19 (看更多)
※ 引述《kimisawa (楊回血了。)》之銘言:
: 生為一個已經佛系看球老人,經歷90年代,我覺得goat爭議之一應該是影響力吧?
: MJ 把 NBA變成全球熱門 (我記得有統計是MJ讓NBA海外收視暴增),每個小孩都要當Jordan
: 伸舌頭。把球星鞋變成定番。
: 接下來有這麼大全球熱潮的是Kobe跟俠客,身邊看一看是不是家裡不看球的長輩是不是只認
: 識這三個人?
: 之後一直要到咖喱才有類似的熱度,你有看過哪個小孩打球說我是lbj嗎?反而每個都說自
: 己是咖喱丟3分。
: MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Curry有創造球風,LBJ沒有吧?坦克切算嗎?
: LBJ就是NBA在捧,但每次都是他在打冠軍賽可是每次都輸。家裡長輩只知道他是那個跟咖哩
: 對抗輸掉的那個,(那個輸給咖喱的人)73亞對於圈外人反而不是很重要,印象就是這樣。
GOAT=The greatest of all time=史上最棒或永遠最棒,所以比較一下:
喬丹1984年進nba,第七賽季(1990-1991)拿冠軍,6次總冠軍,冠軍年份1991-1993跟1996-1998,6次FMVP,2次3連霸,5次MVP。
姆斯2003進nba,第九賽季(2011-2012)拿冠軍,4次總冠軍,4次FMVP,冠軍年份2012,2013,2016,2020,1次2連霸,4次MVP
跟kobe比,喬丹跟LBJ都是總決賽的焦點(kobe前三次焦點是歐尼爾),所以對我來說,kobe只有兩次總冠軍功勞最大,GOAT討論度稍嫌不足
總結數據,喬丹比LBJ更快拿到冠軍,比LBJ用最短時間拿更多冠軍,FMVP跟MVP,6座冠軍都在沒換過隊期間,另外kobe沒換過隊才5冠,只有2冠是真正靠他,可知在同一隊奪冠,然後當主角難度很高。
LBJ也是很優秀,但在騎士才拿一座冠軍,這個數據輸喬丹太多了,另外喬丹是球隊核心,跟他同隊一起打到總冠軍,就是冠軍,LBJ證明跟他同隊一起打到冠軍,很高機率是亞軍。另外Robert Horry也是進總冠軍賽就是冠軍,但他換過隊,也只是關鍵角色球員。
喬丹是史上的GOAT,我覺得LBJ數據真的差了喬丹不只一點,但如果討論40歲的勁爆體能,我一定投LBJ
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