Re: [MNF!] NE Patriots at CAR Panthers

看板NFL (國家美式橄欖球聯盟)作者 (回憶比真實精彩)時間12年前 (2013/11/20 08:59), 編輯推噓8(8013)
留言21則, 8人參與, 最新討論串2/3 (看更多)
http://tinyurl.com/kkjpujv 官方說法出來了! NFL副總裁Dean Blandino表示支持裁判的判決,認為這個球是引用 所謂的「Proper mechanics」call。 Rule 8, Section 5, Article 3 Permissible Acts Article 3 Permissible Acts by both teams while the ball is in the air. Acts that are permissible by a player include, but are not limited to: (c) Contact that would normally be considered pass interference, but the pass is clearly uncatchable by the involved players, except as specified in 8-3-2 and 8-5-4 pertaining to blocking downfield by the offense. 我就原文貼出來,就是昨天有提到的一個觀點,就是當Contact的那個球員被認定是 沒有接球機會的時候,那就視為一般的相互Blocking,而不符合PI的標準。 因為PI是不可以Review的,所以這就是裁判自由心證的一環。 Pass interference penalties are not reviewable, which means the officials had to make a judgment call on when the contact Keuchly was making with Gronkowski became "restrictive." In their judgment, Blandino said, they ruled that the "restriction occurred simultaneously with the ball being touched. When you watch it at full speed you can see why they would make that call on the field." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway,這其實是一場好比賽。但我覺得裁判要丟旗之前最好先討論再丟,那時候 也沒人逼你丟或不丟,如果你自己不敢作主,那就所有裁判集合討論一下再說,而 不是反射動作先丟,然後再去修正。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.40.28.40

11/20 09:11, , 1F
討論完再丟,難保也是一陣討論。
11/20 09:11, 1F

11/20 09:26, , 2F
應該不能這樣吧...
11/20 09:26, 2F

11/20 09:32, , 3F
我的意思是,既然你丟了,那丟的那個人就要負責
11/20 09:32, 3F

11/20 09:32, , 4F
而不是討論完之後又收回去,如果這樣那應該倒過來先討論
11/20 09:32, 4F

11/20 09:34, , 5F
而且最後一個關鍵Play應該要慎重,儘量讓場上決勝負吧
11/20 09:34, 5F

11/20 10:06, , 6F
"clearly uncatchable" my ass...
11/20 10:06, 6F

11/20 10:26, , 7F
我記得ESPN主播有說:How can you throw the flag and
11/20 10:26, 7F

11/20 10:27, , 8F
say there's no foul.
11/20 10:27, 8F

11/20 11:03, , 9F
官網有Highlight可以看,想瞭解這個Play的可以去看一下
11/20 11:03, 9F

11/20 11:15, , 10F
若當場覺得有犯規,當然先丟啊.一開始沒丟,再跑去開會,宣佈
11/20 11:15, 10F

11/20 11:15, , 11F
有犯規,那才真的會暴動
11/20 11:15, 11F

11/20 12:08, , 12F
呵呵,其實我也很討厭Late Flag,我只是希望裁判要敢負責
11/20 12:08, 12F

11/20 12:09, , 13F
就最後那個情況來說,是真的應該慎重,丟了就不要後悔
11/20 12:09, 13F

11/20 12:10, , 14F
至於其他的情況,當然最好也不要Late Flag
11/20 12:10, 14F

11/20 12:14, , 15F
即使裁判群賽後承認他們錯了,又能怎樣? 比賽也不會重打
11/20 12:14, 15F

11/20 12:15, , 16F
這只是另一場例行賽 Pats好好準備下場大賽比較重要
11/20 12:15, 16F

11/20 12:17, , 17F
所以NFL說要去檢視Brooks那一個犯規,又能怎樣XD
11/20 12:17, 17F

11/20 19:08, , 18F
這球PI得很明顯啊 不懂當時為什麼會收回
11/20 19:08, 18F

11/20 22:15, , 19F
綜合官方的說法,應該是丟旗的看到PI,但討論後認為PI時,球已
11/20 22:15, 19F

11/20 22:16, , 20F
碰到防守員,所以不算PI.官方說法特別一再說明,在沒看慢動作
11/20 22:16, 20F

11/20 22:18, , 21F
正常速度下,裁判認為PI跟球碰防守員是同時的,可以理解
11/20 22:18, 21F
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