Re: [外電] Thabeet is signing with the Thunder

看板Thunder (奧克拉荷馬市 雷霆)作者 (快來打我臉)時間13年前 (2012/07/05 23:03), 編輯推噓33(33029)
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越俎代庖一下 http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/07/hasheem-thabeet-signing-with-the-thunder/ Hasheem Thabeet is signing with the Thunder As was expected, former No. 2 overall pick Hasheem Thabeet will sign with the Thunder once the free agent moratorium is lifted July 11. 一如預期,雷霆簽下2009榜眼Hasheem Thabeet,7/11正式生效。 The Thunder have long been taken with the 7-3 big man and have inked him to a two-year deal, according to Marc Spears of Yahoo! Sports. The expectation is a fully guaranteed, minimum level deal (totaling about $880,000 per year). 雷霆一直都對Thabeet這個7-3的高個有興趣,現在終於跟他簽下兩年約。 合約內容據信為兩年保證約,底薪($0.88M/y)。 According to league sources, Thabeet to OKC was all but assured once free agency began as the Thunder showed immediate interest in the well-traveled big man. Thabeet met with the Thunder earlier this week, checked out the practice facility and had a physical done in OKC Tuesday. 各方來源都指出Thabeet這個浪人球員是雷霆唯一表現出有強烈興趣的FA。 他本週稍早到達OKC,週二時去訓練中心進行試訓並完成體檢。 Entering his fourth season, this will be the fourth team for Thabeet. 對生涯第四年的他來說雷霆是他第四隻球隊。 If you’re saying to yourself, “What???” hold up. It’s a deal that makes a lot of sense for the a Thunder. A veteran minimum deal for Nazr Mohammed was going to cost around $1.5 million a season, and that’s assuming a vet minimum deal was enough. And with the Thunder ready to add Cole Aldrich to the rotation full time, bringing in Thabeet and adding him to the “program” is smart. There’s no denying there’s a least some potential in that 7-3 frame and it anyone is getting an ounce of it out, it’s the Thunder. 想質疑的人先等等,其實簽他蠻有sense的。如果要用老將條款留Nazr,一年要付$1.5M, Nazr還不一定會同意只簽老將條款勒。而且如果Aldrich準備好要成為第二中鋒了, 把Thabeet簽下來練練也不失為一步好棋。再說他有7-3,也至少還有點潛力。 如果問我有那一隊可以擠出一點(潛力),我會說是雷霆。 Plus, it’s a cost-effective move, trimming a little bit of salary, which at this point, every dollar matters. The Thunder likely will save $3-4 million in signing Thabeet over another veteran big, like Mohammed. 另外,這其中也考量到財務因素,所謂積少成多,錢要花在刀口上。 雷霆有了他以後,可能可以省下$3-4M給有經驗的長人,如Nazr。 In 135 career games, Thabeet has averaged 2.2 points, 2.7 rebounds and 0.9 blocked shots. Thabeet生涯135場比賽2.2分2.7板0.9鍋。 Is he a bust? So far, absolutely. He’s been mostly a joke of a player and not anything of value to an NBA roster. I’m going to sit here and pretend he ’s some ideal contributor. But he can play a little. Especially if he’s got a specific role to rebound and block shots. Per 36 minutes for his career, Thabeet averages 3.0 blocks per game. A prominent NBA assistant coach said last year that Thabeet’s issue isn’t necessarily that he’s lazy or complacent. It’s just that he doesn’t really know how to work or get better. He’s always been big, and that’s been good enough at every level… except the NBA. 他是bust嗎?到目前為止,yeah~他已成為一個笑話,也沒啥價值。我會假裝他還行, 不過老實說他不是不能上場,特別是如果他只需要做好板子跟鍋子的工作的話。 Per 36 mins他的火鍋數據可是3.0勒~某個傑出的助理教練表示去年Thabeet的問題 不在於他懶,他只是不知道怎麼做才能變好。而且身高是教不來的~ Thabeet isn’t being added to play major minutes. He’s essentially moving into the Honorary Cole Aldrich Role of capping off blowouts with an obligatory dunk. But at the same time a low risk, potentially high reward talent to have on the bench. 他目前應該不會進主力輪替。理論上他將會擔任去年Aldrich的工作-顧顧開特力, 在垃圾時間秀幾個灌籃洗存在感。但與此同時雷霆板凳會擁有一個低風險高回報的 潛力。 After signing Thabeet July 11, plus draft pick Perry Jones III, the Thunder will have 14 players under contract, one short of the league allowed 15. The Thunder have also been rumored to be looking at Devin Ebanks, Daniel Orton, Derek Fisher and Roger Mason. 簽了Thabeet跟今年新秀PJIII以後,雷霆球員名單已經有14個人了。 據謠傳雷霆對Devin Ebanks, Daniel Orton, Derek Fisher, Roger Mason有些興趣。 I’m excited about this move mostly because it means Aldrich is ready. He’s ready for big minutes. I watched him warm a lot during the playoffs and he’s been working. I really think people are going to see something they like during Summer League. He can consistently hit a skyhook — with either hand — from basically eight feet and in. He just looks a little lost on the court and doesn’t seem to have a great sense of where to be at times, but that’s often something that comes with playing. Hard to get the feel of an NBA game when you don’t play in them. 其實我對這個約蠻興奮的,因為這代表Aldrich準備好了。他準備要進輪替了。 季後賽期間我看到Cole備戰不懈,他一直很努力。我想夏季聯盟他將會讓大家看看 他的本事。他8呎距離的左右手勾射都很穩定,只是今年在場上時有點搞不清楚狀況, 但這種事難免的嘛~沒打過幾場比賽,自然不習慣。 And don’t assume that because Aldrich hasn’t played the last two years that he doesn’t have anything. Where exactly was he set to get minutes on this team? The door hasn’t really been opened until now. 別以為Aldrich坐兩年板凳就以為他不行。看看他之前的上場時間吧~ 他根本連門都還沒打開勒~ Again, getting pumped about this Thabeet deal isn’t wise. You probably won’ t see a lot of him over these next two years unless the Thunder really do have a magical developmental program. But like I said, he’s likely to be cheaper than Mohammed, can fill the roster out, adds size and in a pinch, can rebound and defend the rim a little. He’s six fouls to use if needed or play three or four spot minutes. 我再強調一次,別認為這個約很笨。你也許還是看不到Thabeet接下來兩年有什麼突破 性表現,除非雷霆養成團隊真的是不可思議的厲害,但就像我上面講的, 他比Nazr便宜,可以填球員位置,增加長人的深度,籃板跟火鍋也可以來一點。 退萬步言至少他還有六次犯規~ This isn’t anything game-changing. But it’s wise and makes a lot of sense, which shouldn’t come as a surprise with this organization. 這個約不會改變什麼事情,但是一步好棋也很有sense,也很有FO的風格。 -- 『也許你想從我身上尋求許多東西。可是我卻一點也沒有感覺自己有什麼被需求。』 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.32.102.253

07/05 23:06, , 1F
我比較期待 Cole + Collison 的禁區替補 KU 組合 XD
07/05 23:06, 1F

07/06 00:46, , 2F
推翻譯! 借轉巴哈 3Q
07/06 00:46, 2F

07/06 00:54, , 3F
推推感謝翻譯QWQ
07/06 00:54, 3F

07/06 10:17, , 4F
感謝翻譯!!
07/06 10:17, 4F

07/06 10:49, , 5F
不知道他有沒有辦法發揮出非洲大掃把的傳統
07/06 10:49, 5F

07/06 10:57, , 6F
謝翻譯 7尺3真的很高~
07/06 10:57, 6F

07/06 11:07, , 7F
練壯有沒有搞頭?增重?
07/06 11:07, 7F

07/06 12:21, , 8F
怎麼覺得這裡好多人都要增重XD
07/06 12:21, 8F

07/06 13:40, , 9F
他肩寬不夠 增重只會降低他的靈活性 而且問題也不在對抗性
07/06 13:40, 9F

07/06 19:12, , 10F
他缺的是球場的智慧,但沒犧牲戰績練他,....也練不出智慧
07/06 19:12, 10F

07/06 19:13, , 11F
但底薪簽他,只要有好的長人教練教防守,....雷霆賺翻
07/06 19:13, 11F

07/06 19:14, , 12F
光季後賽拿他頂湖人雙塔,......要打輸湖人也很困難
07/06 19:14, 12F

07/06 19:15, , 13F
DH跟Bynum都是靠體型體能打球,遇到更高大的球員都會鳥掉
07/06 19:15, 13F

07/06 19:15, , 14F
但對熱火又打一大四小,他應該一秒都很難有機會上場
07/06 19:15, 14F

07/06 19:18, , 15F
他只要能跟Perkins好好拜師學藝兩年....防守會很恐怖
07/06 19:18, 15F

07/06 19:19, , 16F
雷霆有NBA目前最好的硬漢,....是最有機會把他練好的球隊
07/06 19:19, 16F

07/06 19:20, , 17F
光球隊內練球,要頂Perkins跟Collison,就學很快了
07/06 19:20, 17F

07/06 19:21, , 18F
Gortat也是長期對內練球頂Howard,被練出來的
07/06 19:21, 18F

07/06 19:22, , 19F
但進攻就沒希望吧....應該會成為籃板比得分多的球員
07/06 19:22, 19F

07/06 22:07, , 20F
拿他頂湖人雙塔,沒10分鐘最起碼3犯了
07/06 22:07, 20F

07/06 23:02, , 21F
DH跟Bynum怕的是Hibbert那種有身高有速度的
07/06 23:02, 21F

07/06 23:02, , 22F
Thabeet.....會被碾
07/06 23:02, 22F

07/06 23:08, , 23F
hibbert有速度...?
07/06 23:08, 23F

07/06 23:33, , 24F
一說話就要被打臉 @@ 我人比較好我就不吐槽了..........
07/06 23:33, 24F

07/07 00:02, , 25F
h大有時後的推文我還真不知道他是認真的還是純粹的幻想文
07/07 00:02, 25F

07/07 00:04, , 26F
h大別生氣,只是有時候看你發表交易文,好像把其他隊的GM
07/07 00:04, 26F

07/07 00:05, , 27F
當傻B的感覺,當然如果純粹是幻想文就沒差了XD
07/07 00:05, 27F

07/07 00:15, , 28F
不知道真的看過 Thabeet 打過幾場 =.=
07/07 00:15, 28F

07/07 00:20, , 29F
我覺得喔 不懂的還是安靜比較好啦
07/07 00:20, 29F

07/07 00:44, , 30F
XDDD 去溜馬板講Hibbert有速度啊 幸好那邊都不太會噓人
07/07 00:44, 30F

07/07 01:06, , 31F
話說綠叔簽了...有點兒貴的價格......
07/07 01:06, 31F

07/07 01:09, , 32F
Hibbert有速度......?別鬧了
07/07 01:09, 32F

07/07 02:47, , 33F
Thabeet速度比Hibbert慢???
07/07 02:47, 33F

07/07 02:49, , 34F
Thabeet頂雙塔..幻想文..Thabeet肯定是Bynum剋星
07/07 02:49, 34F

07/07 02:51, , 35F
就像Bynum遇到Fesenko,......被剋的死死的
07/07 02:51, 35F

07/07 02:51, , 36F
Howard更怕Thabeet這種防守球員
07/07 02:51, 36F

07/07 03:01, , 37F
7-3 真的很令人期待
07/07 03:01, 37F

07/07 03:03, , 38F
有這樣的身高跟體能,..只要練結實一點,跟Collison學
07/07 03:03, 38F

07/07 03:04, , 39F
防守時怎麼讓對手重心不穩,....就很屌了
07/07 03:04, 39F

07/07 03:06, , 40F
Collison是現役低位防守技巧最好的長人
07/07 03:06, 40F

07/07 03:06, , 41F
Perkins是現役最強悍的防守球員,跟這兩個球員練球
07/07 03:06, 41F

07/07 03:07, , 42F
要練真的很快,只是要Brooks願意放他上場磨經驗
07/07 03:07, 42F

07/07 03:09, , 43F
Ibaka+Cole+Thabeet..SamPresti真的很享受打人火鍋的快感
07/07 03:09, 43F

07/07 07:49, , 44F
4y40M 簽約價比猜想的高很多 本來想説手術會影響行情的
07/07 07:49, 44F

07/07 07:52, , 45F
以他現在的狀況放在場上只要10分鐘就BBB了,是連3犯的BBB
07/07 07:52, 45F

07/07 07:53, , 46F
而且對手還不用是拜能,快艇的DJ就可以了XD
07/07 07:53, 46F

07/07 07:55, , 47F
以他上季被交易到拓荒者,而阿拓擺明放棄球季了,他還是
07/07 07:55, 47F

07/07 07:56, , 48F
得不到上場時間,阿拓有幾場還是有讓他打先發,大概只有
07/07 07:56, 48F

07/07 07:57, , 49F
1~2分鐘看起來好像令人驚艷了一下,但沒幾分鐘就四犯了
07/07 07:57, 49F

07/07 08:00, , 50F
這樣是要怎麼練?雷霆這2位防守好的打了幾年,他打了幾年
07/07 08:00, 50F

07/07 08:01, , 51F
他還需要好幾年的時間啦,光在雷霆這2年還不夠,而且2位
07/07 08:01, 51F

07/07 08:02, , 52F
防守好的教他他還不見得吸收的了勒XD
07/07 08:02, 52F

07/07 10:36, , 53F
去哪隊連上場時間都爭取不到 顯然不只是球隊養成的問題
07/07 10:36, 53F

07/07 15:31, , 54F
實在很少看到第二順位養沒幾年就當起浪人的
07/07 15:31, 54F

07/07 17:12, , 55F
應該養不起來 對他的期待能適時運用6次犯規次數就好了
07/07 17:12, 55F

07/07 17:12, , 56F
學防守......把犯規控制好就阿彌陀佛了
07/07 17:12, 56F

07/07 20:24, , 57F
應該先期待他能在場上的時間夠讓他把犯規用完XDDD
07/07 20:24, 57F

07/07 20:49, , 58F
他只要能幫Aldrich分攤今年Mohammed的上場時間就夠了啊.
07/07 20:49, 58F

07/08 01:12, , 59F
聽說前超音速雙槍:Ray&Lewis有機會在本季合體?
07/08 01:12, 59F

07/08 07:02, , 60F
Thabeet絕對不會是防守Bynum解答 他的下盤超弱 而且身材
07/08 07:02, 60F

07/08 07:03, , 61F
長不了太多肉 拿去防Bynum絕對被低位輾好玩的
07/08 07:03, 61F

07/08 07:18, , 62F
你有看過Dalembert成為守住Bynum解答的說法嗎?
07/08 07:18, 62F
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