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[外絮] ESPN評20年來最具統治力運動員：LBJ第二消失

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LeBron James ranked second on ESPN's Dominant 20 ESPN The Magazine released its dominant 20 list Sunday morning.The list, put t ogether in honor of ESPN The Magazine’s 20th anniversary, ranks the 20 most d ominant athletes of the past 20 years. The ranking was compiled based on a or mula developed by ESPN. According to the formula used, LeBron James ranks as t he second most dominant athlete of the last 20 years. ESPN最近迎來了20週年，而他們也推出了近20年來最具統治力的20大運動員排名，根據排 名顯示，LBJ排在第2。 Noticeably absent from the list is Kobe Bryant. Kobe versus LeBron has been a big debate for many NBA fans, and those in support of LeBron can point to this as validation. The decision to leave Kobe off is detailed here. 值得注意的是，這份名單裡沒有Kobe，Kobe v.s. LeBron長年來一直被NBA球迷們爭論， 那些支持LBJ的粉絲們可以藉此來驗證。而Kobe的落選原因，則可看以下這篇(補充部分) 。 來源： https://goo.gl/GST5f3 補上詳細排名名單： https://i.imgur.com/HgHwwVc.jpg
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1.Tiger Woods PGA DOMINANCE RATING: 17.0 2.LeBron James NBA DOMINANCE RATING: 15.6 3.Peyton Manning NFL DOMINANCE RATING: 12.7 4.Jimmie Johnson NASCAR DOMINANCE RATING: 12.1 5.Roger Federer ATP DOMINANCE RATING: 10.6 6.Annika Sorenstam LPGA DOMINANCE RATING: 10.3 7.Michael Schumacher FORMULA ONE DOMINANCE RATING: 10.2 8.Floyd Mayweather MEN'S BOXING DOMINANCE RATING: 10.1 9.Marta WOMEN'S SOCCER DOMINANCE RATING: 9.8 10.Usain Bolt MEN'S TRACK & FIELD DOMINANCE RATING: 9.5 11.Lionel Messi MEN'S SOCCER DOMINANCE RATING: 8.9 12.Serena Williams WTA DOMINANCE RATING: 8.9 13.Lauren Jackson WNBA DOMINANCE RATING: 8.3 14.Cristiano Ronaldo MEN'S SOCCER DOMINANCE RATING: 8.2 15.Novak Djokovic ATP DOMINANCE RATING: 8.0 16.Allyston Felix TRACK & FIELD DOMINANCE RATING: 7.3 17.Barry Bonds MLB DOMINANCE RATING: 7.1 18. Mike Trout MLB DOMINANCE RATING: 7.1 19.Manny Pacquiao MEN'S BOXING DOMINANCE RATING: 6.5 20.Tom Brady NFL DOMINANCE RATING: 6.3 來源： https://goo.gl/SFJPnY LBJ部分描述： In the bowels of Quicken Loans Arena after the Spurs swept the Cavaliers in th e 2007 Finals, Tim Duncan hugged a 22-year-old LeBron James, finishing his fou rth season, and told him, in effect: You've got next. “當騎士隊在2007年總決賽被馬刺隊橫掃之後，Tim Duncan擁抱了22歲的James，並對他 說：‘未來是你的。 Of course, even a decade ago, LeBron already had his -- he averaged 27.2 point s in his second year, still the most ever in an age-20 season. 當然，即便回到10年前看，LeBron在他的第二個賽季就已經達到場均27.2分。仍然是現在 20歲賽季的得分紀錄保持人。 And even after seven (seven!) consecutive trips to the Finals -- while averagi ng 94 games in those campaigns -- LeBron hasn't shown much, if any, old-guy at trition. He's pushing 27/9/9, and if that line holds, he'll be the first 30-so mething to accomplish it in a season. 之後，他連續7年打進NBA總決賽，而且將會成為NBA歷史上第一位在30歲之後場均依然能 得到27+9+9的球員。 He averaged a triple-double in a single month for the first time in his career in February of this, his 15th, season. And after averaging at least 25 points in 14 seasons -- most in NBA history -- on Feb. 27 he became the founding and sole member of the 30,000/8,000/8,000 club. And we still can't wait to see wh at's next. --Anthony Olivieri 他在本賽季第一次達到單月平均大三元，連續14個賽季至少場均25分在NBA史上第一，今 年2月，他又成為了NBA歷史上第一位至少得到3萬分、8000籃板和8000助攻的球員。我們 會迫不及待地想看到他的下一個目標。” 補充： 作者在這篇中解釋了一些選擇的理由，也提到了一些選手落選的原因，以下就節錄Kobe的 部分。 The biggest questions about our list of the most dominant athletes of the past 20 years Bryant led the NBA in each of two categories six times over his 20-year career : field goals attempted and field goals missed. In 2005-06, when he scored 35. 4 ppg, he took 350 more shots than anyone else. Which is to say, he was nowher e near as efficient as his most elite peers. And so while Bryant ranks in the all-time top 20 in value over replacement player, he never led the league in V ORP (or win shares). So ... there's that. Kobe在他20年的職業生涯中有兩項數據曾經六次領先NBA全聯盟：投籃出手數和投籃打鐵 數。在2005-06賽季，當他得到35.4分時，他比其他人多投了350次。也就是說，他遠不如 他最精英的同齡人那樣高效。所以，儘管Kobe在生涯超過最低標準球員的價值中排在前20 位，但他從未在這項數據（或勝利值）中領先過全聯盟。所以......就是這樣。 來源： https://goo.gl/eFW1oV 短評或心得： 不得不說排第二名真的蠻猛的… -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.226.72.107 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1521434467.A.F4C.html ※ 編輯: Wojnarowski (36.226.72.107), 03/19/2018 12:41:42
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03/19 12:41, , 1F
Tiger Woods哪位 有Kobe強嗎
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戰起來
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酸酸不看內文，只看到第二名就在高潮了
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※ 編輯: Wojnarowski (36.226.72.107), 03/19/2018 12:43:00
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東區
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因為NBA就只選了一個啊 = =
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當他得到35.4分時，他比其他人多投了350次XD 我笑死
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費爸應該前面一點吧
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連續7次打進冠軍戰然後被電爆4次這叫做統治力?
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有人崩潰啦
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這名單...有囧口沒納豆....
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跟你說啦，酸民只會跟你說又是亞軍，他們眼中永遠只
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有亞軍
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NBA只有LBJ上榜
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雖然這是NBA板~但費爸也太低@@
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沒納豆先噓
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到處抱大腿..............我真的不行
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最有統治力須要抱腿？
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拳擊沒GGG???
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統治力比梅西強？科科
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竟然沒有菲爾普斯，而且小威也太低了
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選兩個輕量級當其他量級沒人看???
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只能統治東區吧
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笑死人 奇文共享
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怎麼沒飛魚
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飛魚的部分Kobe那篇也有提到，可以看看
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03/19 12:45, , 26F
不愧是亞軍王
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03/19 12:46, , 27F
統治了20年3冠 還要靠轉隊
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要說個人能力的話的確很強 但要說統治力...
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跟他後面的人比起來他在該運動的統治力差上太多了..
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03/19 12:46, , 30F
應該沒人不知道ESPN 一直都捧詹黑科吧
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ESPN
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費爸第一啦
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Espn正常發揮
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這排名有夠廢
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※ 編輯: Wojnarowski (36.226.72.107), 03/19/2018 12:48:20
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ESPN真的噁心
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我大羅傑怎麼不是第一
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還有 379 則推文
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看到LBJ就知道這名單廢到笑
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費爸第五 姆斯第二。這份名單完全沒參靠考價值
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不管從收視人口、收益或領域成績來看 這篇排名根本
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笑死人
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沒有lewis hamilton？
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美國人自爽名單,梅西C羅費爸鐵定都比LBJ高
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大家錯怪ESPN了 其實只是想酸姆斯亞軍王而已
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我梅11不能忍
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Kobe本來就沒資格被拿來和LBJ比....
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只比LBJ跟Kobe的話是蠻中肯的啦
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沒有林丹? 哈 美國人沒在看羽球吧?
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...
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NBA只有東區的話 LBJ可以排第二
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大舒馬克第7就不用看了
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裡面至少有5個都應該在LBJ之前吧
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...Messi 11? 這個榜為美國運動排的?
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足球在美國的榜單一向底 不意外XD
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Faker呢 王柏融呢 館長呢
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中肯 KOBE顛峰期只有0.67輪 又是史上第一打鐵王
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沒Faker? 歧視電競運動?
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這榜超鬧
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超爛名單
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看到ESPN就笑笑 一直都是姆斯粉想造神
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Kobe本來就不該被拿來和LBJ比 LBJ弱太多
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亞軍王也叫有統治力?
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腦殘排名 最好是舒馬赫會輸LBJ
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沒納豆真的可惜QQ
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46猴王咧
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米克森也沒入榜
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未來是你的不是TD對可愛說的？
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不管啦 不是ptt鄉民評的都不算數
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The 湊
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飛魚?一朗?
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不懂LBJ上榜原因。
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WRC九連霸的Loeb也沒人理啊。
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lbj應該排第一
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亞軍統治力排第一
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梅西11....
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只要扯上專業 鄉民的智商就暴露 espn會比你不懂體育
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？光想就笑
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