[閒聊] Toto Wolff 的政令宣達

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摩納哥站的風風雨雨讓衛浴之狼決定出來做政治工作了 大致翻譯一下,有錯請不吝更正 http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114138 Mercedes Formula 1 team-mates Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton's relationship was at breaking point even before the Monaco Grand Prix, due to a bust-up in Spain a fortnight ago. 賓士車隊的兩車手事實上早在摩納哥站前西班牙站的爭吵中就瀕臨破發點 Although the breakdown in the team-mates' relations was made public in the wake of Rosberg's controversial pole position in Monte Carlo, the pair had already fallen out after the race at Barcelona. 雖然是在摩納哥站的竿位爭議出現後兩隊友的關係破裂才公諸於世 但事實上上一站就已經出現裂痕 That was when it emerged that, in a bid to keep his lead, Hamilton went against team protocol and turned up his engine settings to maximum performance in the closing stages. 因為ROS在賽事末段追上HAM時,HAM違背車隊計畫調高了他的引擎輸出以保住領先位置 His actions left Rosberg feeling that he had been robbed of a chance of victory through unfair means - which forced an apology from Hamilton. ROS認為HAM此舉不公平的剝奪了他奪冠的機會,因此HAM被迫道歉 It was against that backdrop that tensions surfaced in Monaco, which is why team boss Toto Wolff is not surprised that Hamilton felt so angry after the qualifying controversy. 前面的事繼續到這一場,所以衛浴之狼對HAM對排位賽的事那麼火大並不意外 "It was the other way around on the Sunday in Barcelona," explained Wolff about his drivers' suspicions of each other. 他們兩個上一站的週日就有樑子了 "Nico had felt aggrieved by what had happened in the race and I guess this is really normal. ROS 對上一站感到很委屈,也很正常 "Everybody has their own absolute reality, and absolute belief. And I guess it is like arguing with somebody. You think you are right and the other person thinks he is right. It is never black and white. There is sometimes grey." 每個人都有他們的信念,爭吵時每個人都認為那是別人的毛,自己沒搞毛 這種事從無黑白可言 DRIVERS TESTING LIMITS Hamilton revealed after the Monaco GP that Rosberg had used a similar aggressive engine setting in his bid to snatch victory in Bahrain earlier this year. HAM在摩納哥站後說,ROS在巴林戰最後也採取了一樣的激進引擎調教來追他 Toto WolffWolff said that their actions have now forced a clampdown on the drivers, with neither now allowed to play around with the mappings settings on their own. 衛浴之狼說,事情搞到這樣,他決定把兩車手都抓過來各咬一口警告一下 以後不准再自己亂玩車子,通通給林北照著車隊計畫跑 "It's never going to happen again," declared Wolff. "下不為例",衛浴之狼這麼說 "I think they are probably exploring how far you can step up above the line and what the consequences are. But isn't that normal? "我想這兩傢伙就是想看看他們可以搞毛搞到什麼程度,測試林北的界線 這當然是很正常的事;" "You have a chance of winning the championship and as long as it is not detrimental to the team spirit, as long as it is not underhand, we will handle the situation in the way we did before. "為了爭冠軍會這樣幹當然是可以理解,不過既然事情搞到這種程度,林北就要來當政委" "The moment it goes in the direction where we believe it is not the spirit of Mercedes Benz we will act accordingly." "這種事違背了黨的信念,傷害了黨的形象,一點也不光明,兩個都給我下去反省!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 所以事情就是這樣 ROS的車子在進彎前忽然出現滑冰狀態,那個冰絕對不是三天就凍出來的 好幾場以前就從沙漠中一路凍過來了 不過要以一個車迷的立場來講...就讓他們兩個去玩引擎啊.....有什麼不可? 玩爆了不更好,這樣比賽才有爆點.....也給別人一點機會 至於巴林站的事, 我倒是記得在最後10圈中ROS的 TR有叫他在特定幾個彎角可以用超車模式 這應該就是HAM所說的激進調校 西班牙的狀況則只見於這個報導,消息來源就不太清楚 既然如此,就只是初一十五的問題而已,也真沒誰對誰錯的問題 Wolff不想每場在那邊拜拜可以理解,但對車迷來說,這就少一個哏了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.226.184.246 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/FORMULA1/M.1401105815.A.EEF.html ※ 編輯: roxinnccu (36.226.184.246), 05/26/2014 20:10:44

05/26 20:09, , 1F
http://ppt.cc/KDVd 這更好玩,LAUDA說要擺平
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Dieter Zetsche 說為了精彩度,給他們鬥XDD
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HAM車隊利益我會顧,給我公平XDDDD
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這下好玩了
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是不顧保護引擎策略 提高引擎表現嗎?
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應該就是
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對車手來講作出這樣的選擇也很合理,眼前的冠軍當然先抓
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等WCC確定入袋,大概就是你死我活的武林大會了 Orz
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05/26 20:11, , 10F
如果是的話 兩位車手就都要承擔以後刷缸的風險了
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但另一方面,幾場下來HAM的油耗一直都比ROS好
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05/26 20:12, , 12F
大概就是最後幾場,如果沒有那個先出局,就鬥到最後
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05/26 20:12, , 13F
一樣的引擎要有更好的表現肯定代表更高的油耗...
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所以...也不知道是怎回事
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是啊,有名宿實際看了比賽推測,HAM的油比較少又省胎又快
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HAM用了某種方法就是了,所以HAM下一場大概開始演戲XDD
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油少載據說每圈可以快0.6-0.7,不過只是推測
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05/26 20:15, , 18F
快.6 .7 是少載多少啊……
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我要去找XDD,很前面的專文了 Orz
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逗逗蟲實境秀
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這根本就是車隊賽車 車手自己要幹嘛 = =
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這關係到一二名的關係 車手要聽你的真的很不被尊重
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05/26 20:19, , 23F
兩個車手自己鬥就不會一直跟老闆抱怨公平性的問題了
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根本車隊就看誰是竿位就先保誰麻 那比賽還真難看
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05/26 20:27, , 25F
就是。反正也沒人威脅的到他們,玩引擎就玩嘛
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05/26 20:27, , 26F
就換引擎退10位又怎樣?
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的確MGP今年可以這樣玩 lol 重點是這樣被迫道歉有點OX
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因為是付費專文,就看hupu的未翻譯原文吧 Orz
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所以車隊還不如要求他們人前要演戲比較實在 噗
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車手趕快去日本學有禮無體那招啊 喂
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弄錯了是每圈快0.1秒, 果然是記憶力不可靠
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Rosberg做得很足了 他在台上的風度真的太令人驚訝了
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從小養成有差,這是真的 Orz
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家境比較好的孩子這點都不輸人的
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至少老大還沒叫小黑跟李奧納多一起領麻繩就不錯了(誤)
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衛浴之狼 XDXD
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如果命運劇本沒寫好,一定最後幾場會很慘烈XDDD
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還有 61 則推文
05/27 10:34, , 101F
人到了某個階段,時勢逼者你,你不做,只是把自己逼到絕境
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05/27 16:42, , 102F
第一天看F1? 同隊頭排就是政策性冠亞軍 有例外嗎
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05/27 16:53, , 103F
樓上看一下去年馬來西亞的Vettel(飄)
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這只顯示出F1越來越白癡了,比快的東西還必須調降換耐用
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乾脆比皂飛車好了,起碼外型還比較有些樂趣
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05/27 19:57, , 106F
沒錯。而且換引擎對AMG 有什麼損害
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反正看個樣子沒人可以在今年跟AMG爭頭排了,那換引擎
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退10位了不起就是退到12位起跑,認為在比賽終了前
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AMG沒辦法從第12位拼到頒獎台上的請舉手....
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05/27 20:16, , 110F
如果是MONACO有可能XDD,本來我想今年可能MONACO跟新加坡
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其他車隊有機會拿個分站,結果......Orz
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05/27 20:17, , 112F
連MONACO的SC都沒機會的話,就請SUZUKA昭喚雨神好了 喂
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05/27 20:17, , 113F
(颱風~有叫我嗎? XD
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Suzuka應該是完全無殘念,新加坡找個犧牲的搞一下 XD
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問題有人在SUZUKA很賽XDDDDDDDDDD,我愛的車手在我最愛的
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05/27 20:19, , 116F
賽道那個運氣實在是XDD,還好今年還沒泡菜站勒
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05/27 20:20, , 117F
反正F1搞環保,越搞限制越多,問題不限車廠又不想燒錢
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連本田都被今年規則弄回來了,我看是很難回去以前V8V10了
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05/27 20:55, , 119F
在『作為業界的技術領頭羊』跟『讓車迷耳朵爽』這兩個
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需求間,特別是考慮到現在天賦的難以募集,連麥拉拉這種
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big name都敲不定抬頭死幫色的狀況下,我看不管車隊或賽
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會都會選擇能吸引車廠投入的前者領頭羊角色
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說實在如果爭鬥的好看的話,聲音應該不會是觀眾在乎的點
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麥拉拉現在本該是抬頭使幫色的位置(側箱跟水平尾翼)
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是用來報答沒走掉的贊助商的,摩納哥是給了強尼沃克
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05/27 21:18, , 126F
最新謠言除了Caterham要賣,Sauber又傳出要賣的謠言了
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05/27 21:19, , 127F
還是從Eddie Jordan那傳出來的
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本田不考慮先佔個名額,以後弄廠隊方便嗎XDDD
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Marussia要不是這場進帳2分,恐怕金主也要抽手了
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05/27 21:24, , 131F
伯尼在退休之後做好心再想辦法拉個車廠回來吧 Orz
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05/27 21:26, , 132F
之前
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http://ppt.cc/GlrX 這個新聞看了實在是......
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麥拉拉就是等明年本田啊,本田滿穩的就是了XD
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只是麥拉拉兩個車手會不會留,就是個問題了
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05/27 21:37, , 136F
本田是可以考慮一下把貓腿弄來當測試引擎的二隊
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其實馬鹿跟貓腿幹嘛不考慮一下合併算了.......
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身為Honda信者,我相信引擎的可靠度會很好笑
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當初NA時期~ 比高轉除了F牌耐用度很好以外....
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其他BMW/M牌/Honda/Ford記憶中煙火都沒少過啊~
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